Anyone else getting tired of it all?
Discussion
simonw67 said:
Good grief. Have you not seen any of the data now? We are not even close to SAGE predictions.
Sage predictions was a government sponsored ‘what if’ worst case. I’m talking about the projected utilisation for the NHS, pre omicron, which we still happen too be tracking. You would struggle to even find a single media outlet that mentions this, as its not dramatic enough.
Jiebo said:
I think by this time next week, it will be clear what the clinical situation is. If anyone doesn’t know, this is absolutely everywhere in London. If anything the media is downplaying how prevalent it truly is in the capital.
All I see and hear about from my personal connections (100+) is that they have, or their partners have tested positive. This is the polar opposite of the previous waves, were hardly anyone I know actually caught it unless they were unlucky. A few have had a rough weekend with high fevers, cough etc, but I suspect that they have caught Delta, which is spiking in parallel, but majority have had cold symptoms.
If in the next weeks ahead, we see hospitalisations or deaths almost exactly tracking the planned baseline (obviously we always planned for a spike in over winter), then the rest of the country is going to be fine too, as you’re about 2-3 weeks behind London.
I would not bet on restrictions being introduced at this point, to me it seems increasingly unlikely.
They are testing positive. How many have symptoms? How many have colds or flu? Covid is a cold virus after all. All I see and hear about from my personal connections (100+) is that they have, or their partners have tested positive. This is the polar opposite of the previous waves, were hardly anyone I know actually caught it unless they were unlucky. A few have had a rough weekend with high fevers, cough etc, but I suspect that they have caught Delta, which is spiking in parallel, but majority have had cold symptoms.
If in the next weeks ahead, we see hospitalisations or deaths almost exactly tracking the planned baseline (obviously we always planned for a spike in over winter), then the rest of the country is going to be fine too, as you’re about 2-3 weeks behind London.
I would not bet on restrictions being introduced at this point, to me it seems increasingly unlikely.
How many are heading to hospital? How many have carried on WFH?
How many are dying? None I expect.
Even at the worst case 99.8% of people, mainly over 80 years, didn’t die FROM not WITH covid.
Tell your friends to get a grip, celebrate that they will have max natural immunity going forward and live their lives, rather than fear death.
Don’t forget to tell your friends that they don’t need any more jabs now and to mention how useless their prior jabs were preventing them from catching covid.
Oh, and that all of this applies to everyone else, particularly the jabbed preachers.
Phil. said:
They are testing positive. How many have symptoms? How many have colds or flu? Covid is a cold virus after all.
How many are heading to hospital? How many have carried on WFH?
How many are dying? None I expect.
Even at the worst case 99.8% of people, mainly over 80 years, didn’t die FROM not WITH covid.
Tell your friends to get a grip, celebrate that they will have max natural immunity going forward and live their lives, rather than fear death.
Don’t forget to tell your friends that they don’t need any more jabs now and to mention how useless their prior jabs were preventing them from catching covid.
Oh, and that all of this applies to everyone else, particularly the jabbed preachers.
I think the data suggests that jabs have worked. How many are heading to hospital? How many have carried on WFH?
How many are dying? None I expect.
Even at the worst case 99.8% of people, mainly over 80 years, didn’t die FROM not WITH covid.
Tell your friends to get a grip, celebrate that they will have max natural immunity going forward and live their lives, rather than fear death.
Don’t forget to tell your friends that they don’t need any more jabs now and to mention how useless their prior jabs were preventing them from catching covid.
Oh, and that all of this applies to everyone else, particularly the jabbed preachers.
Yes I dare say many have got natural immunity from previous infection ( most of us probably didn’t even know we had the virus or passed it off as a cold) but I think it’s fair enough to accept the vaccination programme overall has helped.
Depends what situation you found yourself in .
My wife got hit hard and still has issues that we are dealing with and has had an impact on her life and continues to do so, so for us vaccinations were important.
Anyway , things are looking a little better so merry Xmas to all
GT3Manthey said:
So now Barts are reporting staff absences have gone up to 4700 from 1900 a week earlier across their 5 hospitals so are now cancelling planned operations in January.
Time to change this isolation requirement on a positive test.
It’s now outdated & this time round we have the vaccines where as before we didn’t .
The virus is everywhere already
My wife phoned today from work to tell me that a colleague of hers has tested positive for Covid-19.Time to change this isolation requirement on a positive test.
It’s now outdated & this time round we have the vaccines where as before we didn’t .
The virus is everywhere already
The Trust's solution is "a lateral flow test every day for the next ten days" for everyone in the department. So no cheeky ten days off with her feet up then.
But what it has done is that it's meant cancellations of family "stuff". No visit to her brother to drop off presents for our niece and nephew on account of how her brother has had two strokes since he got vaccinated against Covid-19, and thus he's 'vulnerable'. And no more visits to her mum, who is in a care home, on account of how it would be irresponsible of her to visit and risk introducing the virus to her mum and all the other residents. "I could never forgive myself" was what she said.
My response was "where will this end though?" There's always going to be someone ill with something that can be passed on. Why is Covid-19 of whatever variant so different?
If Covid is the killer that propaganda tells us it is, then surely the whole department definitely should isolate for at least a week, and all non-essential operations ought to be cancelled? Either that, or going on the evidence of the response by health chiefs to infection within their rank and file, the whole thing is a panto and it's definitely nowhere near as scary as "they" are making out...
Edit to add:
Meanwhile, somewhere on Planet Real Life, far away from Bozo Boris And The Predictors Of Doom, representatives of that same Hospital Trust were on-screen on BBC South Today detailing how many beds were being "blocked" by geriatric patients who were no longer Acute hospital cases requiring in-patient admission. No, these patients are now either classified as Chronic, or Recovering, but cannot be discharged as they have unmet personal care needs either at home or in residential care settings. How's that vaccine mandate for care home employees working out for you now, Boris? Hmmm?
Edited by yellowjack on Thursday 23 December 15:25
I was on a job in the summer where we kept losing people either due to being pinged or testing positive, no one went on to have more than a cold.
Our boss had a quiet word with us.
Delete the bloody app and stop feking testing.
At least I made it through the fortnight to claim my money. Freelance you see, those that get sent home, got no cash.
Our boss had a quiet word with us.
Delete the bloody app and stop feking testing.
At least I made it through the fortnight to claim my money. Freelance you see, those that get sent home, got no cash.
Tyre Smoke said:
Went for my booster today at a small pharmacy in a small town. Of the four of us in the pharmacy, I was the only one for my jab, three were asking for LFT which were out of stock.
Why on earth are people testing when they are healthy? LFT is the new petrol panic.
It's the latest craze. Keep testing before you go anywhere. Keep testing so we can "save" Christmas. Keep testing to show how much you care. I wonder how many people will carry on once Christmas is over?Why on earth are people testing when they are healthy? LFT is the new petrol panic.
I'm fairly sure this is just another bug that gives you a bit of a cold or sore throat for the vast majority now. I mentioned on another thread that we all had to do a test before a family gathering last weekend. Everybody negative, but 50% coughing anyway... could be any other disease that is fatal if passed on to the wrong person. Come to think of it, I've had a few Christmases over the years where I've had a bit of a sore throat or whatever, but nobody has expected me to test for one specific illness prior to visiting them...
GT3Manthey said:
Oh no, a wail link.Going to post a link to a news article on every person that's died in a car crash, of cancer or heart disease too?
Last contributed to this last year, but how are people?
Feels like an ever accelerating spiral into the s
t the last few months, despite the lovely weather (and what has been on a personal level a good year so far.)
Out of the frying pan and into the fire after Covid? Just look at the NPE forum first page as an example as below.
every single thing a negative or strongly negative connotation. Same everywhere you look, and apparently doomsday to come this winter and beyond. fking sick of it. I don't plan to participate in it, whatever "it" is threatening to be over the next year or two. And by that I mean doing my own thing and make my own luck and stop reading the "news" 
Feels like an ever accelerating spiral into the s
t the last few months, despite the lovely weather (and what has been on a personal level a good year so far.)Out of the frying pan and into the fire after Covid? Just look at the NPE forum first page as an example as below.
every single thing a negative or strongly negative connotation. Same everywhere you look, and apparently doomsday to come this winter and beyond. f
king sick of it. I don't plan to participate in it, whatever "it" is threatening to be over the next year or two. And by that I mean doing my own thing and make my own luck and stop reading the "news" News/politics/current affairs discussions have always been fairly negative, whether on PH, elsewhere, or in the media. Sadly, negativity seems to capture human attention more so than positivity. We love a talking point, especially if it's something that threatens the status quo.
Ultimately, most of us don't have much power as individuals, so while it's useful to stay abreast of things if you desire, it's best not to get too emotionally involved.
Ultimately, most of us don't have much power as individuals, so while it's useful to stay abreast of things if you desire, it's best not to get too emotionally involved.
My take. I don't think things are going to be particularly good for people in the coming time, but, honestly, I've seen enough of these doomsday stories to know that we'll survive, and eventually come out the other side. I'm sure the headlines of 2008 were similarly gloomy.
However, yeah, just aim yourself with facts and stop the doom scrolling.
However, yeah, just aim yourself with facts and stop the doom scrolling.
2021 -
Changed job - stress.
Moving house - stress.
Moving location - stress.
Family arguments - stress.
Demise of social circles - stress.
Demise of work social circles - stress.
Demise of mentors and coaches at work/life - stress.
Demise of sporting social circles - stress.
Dealing with a one year old who never slept at all - stress.
Money worries - stress.
Covid / lockdowns etc. - stress.
Working too much so as to ignore all of the above - stress.
No exercise due to working too much and terrible diet - stress.
Started drinking to deal with the stress to relax due to lack of exercise and terrible diet.
2022 -
Gave up drinking - found out i was using it as a coping mechanism..
Breakdown / burnout - moderate depression.
Advised boss four weeks ago i have moderate depression / burn out hence why performance issues in H1/22. Demoted on Friday.
Inflation/recession worries - Stress
I've deleted all social media, hardly bother watching the news anymore, and plough all my free time into family, exercise, and reading self-help and self-improvement leadership/management + emotional intelligence etc and doing "me" things. Sought out exec coaching, and reconnecting with people. Work - Waiting to find out this Friday what it actually all means re. demotion - it's being flagged as "helping" me, although no one has actually asked what i actually need yet..
Changed job - stress.
Moving house - stress.
Moving location - stress.
Family arguments - stress.
Demise of social circles - stress.
Demise of work social circles - stress.
Demise of mentors and coaches at work/life - stress.
Demise of sporting social circles - stress.
Dealing with a one year old who never slept at all - stress.
Money worries - stress.
Covid / lockdowns etc. - stress.
Working too much so as to ignore all of the above - stress.
No exercise due to working too much and terrible diet - stress.
Started drinking to deal with the stress to relax due to lack of exercise and terrible diet.
2022 -
Gave up drinking - found out i was using it as a coping mechanism..
Breakdown / burnout - moderate depression.
Advised boss four weeks ago i have moderate depression / burn out hence why performance issues in H1/22. Demoted on Friday.
Inflation/recession worries - Stress
I've deleted all social media, hardly bother watching the news anymore, and plough all my free time into family, exercise, and reading self-help and self-improvement leadership/management + emotional intelligence etc and doing "me" things. Sought out exec coaching, and reconnecting with people. Work - Waiting to find out this Friday what it actually all means re. demotion - it's being flagged as "helping" me, although no one has actually asked what i actually need yet..
Edited by BobSaunders on Tuesday 9th August 20:39
TameRacingDriver said:
My take. I don't think things are going to be particularly good for people in the coming time, but, honestly, I've seen enough of these doomsday stories to know that we'll survive, and eventually come out the other side. I'm sure the headlines of 2008 were similarly gloomy.
However, yeah, just aim yourself with facts and stop the doom scrolling.
Are you sure on the bit in bold? However, yeah, just aim yourself with facts and stop the doom scrolling.
Various countries are well along the route of cutting fertiliser use and therefore reducing food supplies in due course...
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