Anyone else getting tired of it all?
Discussion
deebs said:
croyde said:
Had mine yesterday. Just a sore arm so far.
I'm close to giving up.
<snipped>I'm close to giving up.
Edited by croyde on Thursday 18th February 11:46
Hang on man. It'll be alright in the end. Or so Jimmy Eats World tells me:
Hey, don't write yourself off yet
It's only in your head, you feel left out
Or looked down on
Just try your best, try everything you can
And don't you worry what they tell themselves
When you're away
It just takes some time
Little girl, you're in the middle of the ride
Everything, everything will be just fine
Everything, everything will be alright, alright
Jesus Croyde that sounds rough. Awful. Hang in there fella. Feel free to drop me a message if you want.
As for me, well I've gone from nearly rock bottom about losing my job to being quite relaxed about it. There's plenty of work in my sector (IT) and it's quite obvious if they go through with their plans it will be a disaster for the company, but if they do then they deserve everything they've got coming. They've treat the staff disgustingly. We've worked all the way through keeping the company earning billions and this is how they repay us.
I feel there is a decent chance I can keep my role, I have built a strong case, but equally, if they let me go, so be it. I'll survive.
As for me, well I've gone from nearly rock bottom about losing my job to being quite relaxed about it. There's plenty of work in my sector (IT) and it's quite obvious if they go through with their plans it will be a disaster for the company, but if they do then they deserve everything they've got coming. They've treat the staff disgustingly. We've worked all the way through keeping the company earning billions and this is how they repay us.
I feel there is a decent chance I can keep my role, I have built a strong case, but equally, if they let me go, so be it. I'll survive.
croyde said:
Had mine yesterday. Just a sore arm so far.
Pfizer one in a local church. Apparently they installed a special freezer in one of the annexes to keep the phials at the correct temp.
Lots of young girls getting jabbed at the same time. Guess they were carers/docs/nurses.
Rest were 50s like me.
Had to sit for 15minutes in the church afterwards. Very restful.
Needed it as I'd just been to see my totally unresponsive 15 year old son in hospital.
He'd stolen some of his mum's anti anxiety pills and popped loads of them out with 'mates' on the local common at 2 in the morning.
Thankfully he was got into a taxi where he passed out and the kind driver got him home. Carried him into the house.
Then ambulance to hospital. Breathing but dead to any stimuli for 10 hours when he finally woke.
And he wants to go back out tonight.
I'm close to giving up.
Kids... guaranteed to test us to our wits end!Pfizer one in a local church. Apparently they installed a special freezer in one of the annexes to keep the phials at the correct temp.
Lots of young girls getting jabbed at the same time. Guess they were carers/docs/nurses.
Rest were 50s like me.
Had to sit for 15minutes in the church afterwards. Very restful.
Needed it as I'd just been to see my totally unresponsive 15 year old son in hospital.
He'd stolen some of his mum's anti anxiety pills and popped loads of them out with 'mates' on the local common at 2 in the morning.
Thankfully he was got into a taxi where he passed out and the kind driver got him home. Carried him into the house.
Then ambulance to hospital. Breathing but dead to any stimuli for 10 hours when he finally woke.
And he wants to go back out tonight.
I'm close to giving up.
Edited by croyde on Thursday 18th February 11:46
I'm sorry to hear the situation, croyde. It sounds like you and your son both need some normality restored so you can focus on getting on with life, rather than this never-ending s
tshow of muppetry from our esteemed leaders.Do you have a motorhome or could you borrow one? You could take a trip away for a couple of nights somewhere quiet.
There might be a risk of a knock on the door from a person in uniform, but I am certain no judge would ever convict based on your need to get away from things for a couple of days for your own sanity.
Alternatively, if you're happy to post up your region, there might be some of us near to you who'd be happy to go for
Mr Whippy said:
To sum up, stop watching the news as it’s just full of other people’s issues.
If any of it becomes your issue, deal with it then.
If you’ve got spare time, go for a walk somewhere nice.
Most of us have plenty to be getting on with without worrying about other people’s stuff.
Even the issues of family and friends can be overwhelming without adding almost all of the irrelevant ‘news’ to the mix.
The purpose of the news isn’t to inform any more, it’s to make you have an emotional response and spend time having adverts fired at you.
Fear is a powerful emotion to use to pull you in.
Your own little world should be your priority. Focus entirely on it and don’t let external irrelevancies pollute it.
Finding it hard to disagree with any of this.If any of it becomes your issue, deal with it then.
If you’ve got spare time, go for a walk somewhere nice.
Most of us have plenty to be getting on with without worrying about other people’s stuff.
Even the issues of family and friends can be overwhelming without adding almost all of the irrelevant ‘news’ to the mix.
The purpose of the news isn’t to inform any more, it’s to make you have an emotional response and spend time having adverts fired at you.
Fear is a powerful emotion to use to pull you in.
Your own little world should be your priority. Focus entirely on it and don’t let external irrelevancies pollute it.
Hi all,
Been a little quiet, but I'll try and fill in the last week or so. Last weekend was, by far, the hardest one so far. I'm simply not used to having nothing to do, my kids stayed at their mums and my mate bailed on a planned hike, not ashamed to admit that I really struggled.
So far, this week has been much better in terms of motivation for work, helped by being out on site for the last 2 days. I have the kids this weekend and we have a hike planned. Unfortunately I've not been able to pry myself away from the news or forums but I am viewing them with a healthy dose of balance and optimism. Sleeping has been helped recently by audiobooks, they really send me off to sleep, in addition to giving me some good material to listen to while running.
If anyone has any recommendations, I'd welcome them, my recent list includes:
David Goggins - Cant hurt me
Ant Middleton - Zero negativity
Jocko Willink - Extreme Ownership
Jay Shetty - Think like a monk
I know, a drastic list of self help books, I'm really trying to see the positive opportunities in the current situation rather than getting dragged down too much in a pool of st.
Been a little quiet, but I'll try and fill in the last week or so. Last weekend was, by far, the hardest one so far. I'm simply not used to having nothing to do, my kids stayed at their mums and my mate bailed on a planned hike, not ashamed to admit that I really struggled.
So far, this week has been much better in terms of motivation for work, helped by being out on site for the last 2 days. I have the kids this weekend and we have a hike planned. Unfortunately I've not been able to pry myself away from the news or forums but I am viewing them with a healthy dose of balance and optimism. Sleeping has been helped recently by audiobooks, they really send me off to sleep, in addition to giving me some good material to listen to while running.
If anyone has any recommendations, I'd welcome them, my recent list includes:
David Goggins - Cant hurt me
Ant Middleton - Zero negativity
Jocko Willink - Extreme Ownership
Jay Shetty - Think like a monk
I know, a drastic list of self help books, I'm really trying to see the positive opportunities in the current situation rather than getting dragged down too much in a pool of s
t. pidsy said:
I hope so. My sleep pattern has been destroyed.
I look horrendous atm. My mind races for no reason at all when I go to bed. I’m getting 4-5 hours a night at the moment.
My mood can’t drop much lower. The emptiness is still firmly in place and I feel constantly “on the edge” of losing emotional control.
This thread has helped hugely. It’s positive to know that others feel the same.
Listen to an audiobook, focus on the words and listening to them intently. Without fail it puts me out within 20 minutes, and I'm a chronic overthinker!I look horrendous atm. My mind races for no reason at all when I go to bed. I’m getting 4-5 hours a night at the moment.
My mood can’t drop much lower. The emptiness is still firmly in place and I feel constantly “on the edge” of losing emotional control.
This thread has helped hugely. It’s positive to know that others feel the same.
Pete102 said:
pidsy said:
I hope so. My sleep pattern has been destroyed.
I look horrendous atm. My mind races for no reason at all when I go to bed. I’m getting 4-5 hours a night at the moment.
My mood can’t drop much lower. The emptiness is still firmly in place and I feel constantly “on the edge” of losing emotional control.
This thread has helped hugely. It’s positive to know that others feel the same.
Listen to an audiobook, focus on the words and listening to them intently. Without fail it puts me out within 20 minutes, and I'm a chronic overthinker!I look horrendous atm. My mind races for no reason at all when I go to bed. I’m getting 4-5 hours a night at the moment.
My mood can’t drop much lower. The emptiness is still firmly in place and I feel constantly “on the edge” of losing emotional control.
This thread has helped hugely. It’s positive to know that others feel the same.
Something I was told to try when you wake up in the night is to write down all the things you are thinking about so you can forget about them (kinda have to force yourself to think "It's written down, I don't need to think about it again until the morning).
I think that advice was more to do with work stress that is transient and controllable than ongoing external problems but it might help.
The other option is to just do the stoic thing (the original meaning) and consider "I cannot control these things therefore I shall cease to worry about them, what happens happens"
I think that advice was more to do with work stress that is transient and controllable than ongoing external problems but it might help.
The other option is to just do the stoic thing (the original meaning) and consider "I cannot control these things therefore I shall cease to worry about them, what happens happens"
mcelliott said:
All the things you stressed and worried about yesterday, did they materialise today? I will hazard a guess and say no.
The problem I have is the creeping apparent inevitability of 'vaccine passports' and a society where 'guilty until proven innocent' means those of us not wishing to become dependent on twice-a-year injections of cocktails of genetic engineering and nano-engineered carrier materials (in order to be 'allowed' to have contact with other people) will be made pariahs and unable to have any quality of life.I don't want any of my family to end up in the situation where they can't work, can't go to school, can't access healthcare, or can't even walk down the street without being challenged to prove they are 'allowed' to not wear a mask in the open air, yet it seems the UK (and many other countries) has a Government that is going to push this through with no public vote on it and with total disregard to the up-ending and destruction of historically hard-won freedoms.
I feel like I'm looking at the last days of Rome, meanwhile the crazed facebook lockdown fetishists rage on with flaming torches against people 'breaking the rulez', totally oblivious to the coming world they are either failing to perceive or are actually supporting for reasons that remain elusive to anyone with the power of thought.
The problem, therefore, grows ever nearer, like a laser inching closer to Mr Bond's groin, with escape seemingly impossible, and with calls for people standing watching to at least consider looking at the switch on the control panel marked 'actual WEF Great Reset is happening' being shouted down as 'conspiracy theorist nutjob!!'
Edited by RSTurboPaul on Friday 19th February 00:15
My Mum died just before Christmas. We were so looking forward to spending Christmas together after this horrid year but that went out the window.
My OH’s Uncle committed suicide 2 days later. Trying to help each other grieve was hard.
I’m past caring tbh. Got signed off work and hope I can get another 4 weeks off as I plan to just hand in my notice.
Risky possibly but I just can’t see a way out of this misery. Hopefully have savings to see me through a year and hope 2022 is better.
My OH’s Uncle committed suicide 2 days later. Trying to help each other grieve was hard.
I’m past caring tbh. Got signed off work and hope I can get another 4 weeks off as I plan to just hand in my notice.
Risky possibly but I just can’t see a way out of this misery. Hopefully have savings to see me through a year and hope 2022 is better.
RSTurboPaul said:
The problem I have is the creeping apparent inevitability of 'vaccine passports' and a society where 'guilty until proven innocent' means those of us not wishing to become dependent on twice-a-year injections of cocktails of genetic engineering and nano-engineered carrier materials (in order to be 'allowed' to have contact with other people) will be made pariahs and unable to have any quality of life.
I don't want any of my family to end up in the situation where they can't work, can't go to school, can't access healthcare, or can't even walk down the street without being challenged to prove they are 'allowed' to not wear a mask in the open air, yet it seems the UK (and many other countries) has a Government that is going to push this through with no public vote on it and with total disregard to the up-ending and destruction of historically hard-won freedoms.
I feel like I'm looking at the last days of Rome, meanwhile the crazed facebook lockdown fetishists rage on with flaming torches against people 'breaking the rulez', totally oblivious to the coming world they are either failing to perceive or are actually supporting for reasons that remain elusive to anyone with the power of thought.
The problem, therefore, grows ever nearer, like a laser inching closer to Mr Bond's groin, with escape seemingly impossible, and with calls for people standing watching to at least consider looking at the switch on the control panel marked 'actual WEF Great Reset is happening' being shouted down as 'conspiracy theorist nutjob!!'
It's horrible watching it all happen in slow motion like a bystander, unable to do anything and watching people literally begging for more.I don't want any of my family to end up in the situation where they can't work, can't go to school, can't access healthcare, or can't even walk down the street without being challenged to prove they are 'allowed' to not wear a mask in the open air, yet it seems the UK (and many other countries) has a Government that is going to push this through with no public vote on it and with total disregard to the up-ending and destruction of historically hard-won freedoms.
I feel like I'm looking at the last days of Rome, meanwhile the crazed facebook lockdown fetishists rage on with flaming torches against people 'breaking the rulez', totally oblivious to the coming world they are either failing to perceive or are actually supporting for reasons that remain elusive to anyone with the power of thought.
The problem, therefore, grows ever nearer, like a laser inching closer to Mr Bond's groin, with escape seemingly impossible, and with calls for people standing watching to at least consider looking at the switch on the control panel marked 'actual WEF Great Reset is happening' being shouted down as 'conspiracy theorist nutjob!!'
Edited by RSTurboPaul on Friday 19th February 00:15
From being in retail briefly at a young age, I learned how much I hated the general public. I literally had no idea until now that it was possible to hate them even more...
Carrot said:
It's horrible watching it all happen in slow motion like a bystander, unable to do anything and watching people literally begging for more.
From being in retail briefly at a young age, I learned how much I hated the general public. I literally had no idea until now that it was possible to hate them even more...
From being in retail briefly at a young age, I learned how much I hated the general public. I literally had no idea until now that it was possible to hate them even more...
I'm the same. I actually like people. People with brains that is. Quite ugly to see just how pathetic a section of the general public has become. It beggars belief that some people are positively creaming in their knickers at the restrictions and lockdowns. I can imagine their glee every time sir Boris announces more restrictions on his press conferences with the prophets of doom.I've said this before but those people were anti social hermits before this and they are absolutely loving that everyone is being brought down to their own self imposed level. They say you get the society you deserve and that is exactly what we seem to be getting, unfortunately people like you and I and many others on places like PH sadly seem to be in the minority.
Completely agree with the last few posters and “last days of Rome” is very apt.
I was very wound up about all this stuff at the tail end of the year and the Christmas tweaks sent me over the edge and I was very angry, something I’ve never felt about politics. Since then I’ve settled down into a kind of defeated resignation. I’m not happy but I’m less stressed.
You can’t do anything about it, and nobody else seems that bothered so resistance is futile. Just wait to see what brave new world manifests over the next year or two and deal with it as it comes.
One consolation is that I think the powers that be have shown despite all this bold change, they have a real cowardly streak - they mostly do what’s popular, and don’t really fully commit to the authoritarian measures because they have to leave gaps open for (insert subgroup here) that might star in a sadface article on the Daily Mail about how they’re being discriminated against. See: mask wearing/exemption with no requirement of proof, leaving home/only need “reasonable excuse”, etc. This means every absurd new oppressive rule introduced also has absolutely gaping holes in it and the only thing stopping you from using those to maintain your mental health and a semblance of a life, is in your own head.
Of course not much you can do about all businesses being closed but they can’t do that forever.
I also think this same cowardice means the economic chickens will simply never be allowed to come home to roost so no need to worry about that. Find a way to keep the bills getting paid and don’t worry about the long term.
I also reckon the looming mental health crisis is going to be a real surprise to HMG, and I don’t mean the obvious (and especially tragic) stuff like suicides but the more subtle things like a demotivated depressed population for whom social interaction has become unusual. Economically a world where running a business is very risky because you might be shut down at a moments notice, and where most people have been insulated from money woes by the magic money tree.
I’m a grafter but even I am noticing I’m struggling to find motivation to work, and an impulse to sack it all off and cruise on the almost inevitable UBI.
I was very wound up about all this stuff at the tail end of the year and the Christmas tweaks sent me over the edge and I was very angry, something I’ve never felt about politics. Since then I’ve settled down into a kind of defeated resignation. I’m not happy but I’m less stressed.
You can’t do anything about it, and nobody else seems that bothered so resistance is futile. Just wait to see what brave new world manifests over the next year or two and deal with it as it comes.
One consolation is that I think the powers that be have shown despite all this bold change, they have a real cowardly streak - they mostly do what’s popular, and don’t really fully commit to the authoritarian measures because they have to leave gaps open for (insert subgroup here) that might star in a sadface article on the Daily Mail about how they’re being discriminated against. See: mask wearing/exemption with no requirement of proof, leaving home/only need “reasonable excuse”, etc. This means every absurd new oppressive rule introduced also has absolutely gaping holes in it and the only thing stopping you from using those to maintain your mental health and a semblance of a life, is in your own head.
Of course not much you can do about all businesses being closed but they can’t do that forever.
I also think this same cowardice means the economic chickens will simply never be allowed to come home to roost so no need to worry about that. Find a way to keep the bills getting paid and don’t worry about the long term.
I also reckon the looming mental health crisis is going to be a real surprise to HMG, and I don’t mean the obvious (and especially tragic) stuff like suicides but the more subtle things like a demotivated depressed population for whom social interaction has become unusual. Economically a world where running a business is very risky because you might be shut down at a moments notice, and where most people have been insulated from money woes by the magic money tree.
I’m a grafter but even I am noticing I’m struggling to find motivation to work, and an impulse to sack it all off and cruise on the almost inevitable UBI.
Edited by Venturist on Friday 19th February 10:16
Catz said:
My Mum died just before Christmas. We were so looking forward to spending Christmas together after this horrid year but that went out the window.
My OH’s Uncle committed suicide 2 days later. Trying to help each other grieve was hard.
I’m past caring tbh. Got signed off work and hope I can get another 4 weeks off as I plan to just hand in my notice.
Risky possibly but I just can’t see a way out of this misery. Hopefully have savings to see me through a year and hope 2022 is better.
Sorry to hear that, it's not a time for people to die and the restricted funeral process quite frankly makes it very difficult to grieve. The BiL died last year and with so few allowed at the funeral I had to leave the wife to go by herself so as close family members could attend. She still doesn't seem quite okay about losing her brother, and the MiL hasnt coped at all.My OH’s Uncle committed suicide 2 days later. Trying to help each other grieve was hard.
I’m past caring tbh. Got signed off work and hope I can get another 4 weeks off as I plan to just hand in my notice.
Risky possibly but I just can’t see a way out of this misery. Hopefully have savings to see me through a year and hope 2022 is better.
I too have thought about pausing the job, can survive to 2022 okay. But after that economically things start to need moving in my previous sectors of employment. Looking at the appetite to continue locking down, and the appetite for the government to do what the opinion polls say, not so sure.
I've found I just can't be arsed with anything anymore. I've always been a lazy bugger but it's 5pm, I've got a long list of stuff I could be getting on with but instead I'm sat in my pants scrolling mindlessly, reading the same old threads, the same meaningless circular arguments, the same endless cycle of local facebook posts.
There's no joy anymore in music or driving or spannering or fixing anything. TV, video games and the weekly discord piss-up are still fun but are hardly conducive to a productive healthy lifestyle and the minute they are over it's back to feeling like an emotional vacuum.
Work is just a disaster at the moment, I sit there for 8 hours pretty much waiting to go home despite the mountains of work I should be doing, but when I sit in my car I can't even be bothered to drive home since I end up doing the same st in a different place, so there I sit, stewing for half an hour or so when normally I leg it home as quickly as possible.
managed to get a week off but I'm dreading going back because it will just be more wasted time, procrastination and guilt.
There's no joy anymore in music or driving or spannering or fixing anything. TV, video games and the weekly discord piss-up are still fun but are hardly conducive to a productive healthy lifestyle and the minute they are over it's back to feeling like an emotional vacuum.
Work is just a disaster at the moment, I sit there for 8 hours pretty much waiting to go home despite the mountains of work I should be doing, but when I sit in my car I can't even be bothered to drive home since I end up doing the same s
t in a different place, so there I sit, stewing for half an hour or so when normally I leg it home as quickly as possible.managed to get a week off but I'm dreading going back because it will just be more wasted time, procrastination and guilt.
Edited by BritishBlitz87 on Friday 19th February 17:19
BritishBlitz87 said:
I've found I just can't be arsed with anything anymore. I've always been a lazy bugger but it's 5pm, I've got a long list of stuff I could be getting on with but instead I'm sat in my pants scrolling mindlessly, reading the same old threads, the same meaningless circular arguments, the same endless cycle of local facebook posts.
There's no joy anymore in music or driving or spannering or fixing anything. TV, video games and the weekly discord piss-up are still fun but are hardly conducive to a productive healthy lifestyle and the minute they are over it's back to feeling like an emotional vacuum.
Work is just a disaster at the moment, I sit there for 8 hours pretty much waiting to go home despite the mountains of work I should be doing, but when I sit in my car I can't even be bothered to drive home since I end up doing the same st in a different place, so there I sit, stewing for half an hour or so when normally I leg it home as quickly as possible.
managed to get a week off but I'm dreading going back because it will just be more wasted time, procrastination and guilt.
I know exactly this feeling and I’m much the same. This is the stuff I think will have a long reaching impact - it doesn’t just unwind again the moment pubs open or whatever. There's no joy anymore in music or driving or spannering or fixing anything. TV, video games and the weekly discord piss-up are still fun but are hardly conducive to a productive healthy lifestyle and the minute they are over it's back to feeling like an emotional vacuum.
Work is just a disaster at the moment, I sit there for 8 hours pretty much waiting to go home despite the mountains of work I should be doing, but when I sit in my car I can't even be bothered to drive home since I end up doing the same s
t in a different place, so there I sit, stewing for half an hour or so when normally I leg it home as quickly as possible.managed to get a week off but I'm dreading going back because it will just be more wasted time, procrastination and guilt.
Edited by BritishBlitz87 on Friday 19th February 17:19
Keep plugging away mate, it’s rubbish but there will be better days again, sooner or later. Until then find little bits and bobs of enjoyment where you can and remember tomorrow is always a fresh start.
I find something that helps me feel better in the last year of bleakness is achieving something, anything - a DIY project, a maintenance job on the car, exercise stuff like setting a goal, even a tidy up in the house or garage - accomplishing something, improving your situation in some way, gives a feeling of progress.
Can relate. Feel like a zombie most of the time at the moment. Literally no excitement for anything right now.
While I feel like I can most likely get another job OK, the fact my firm saw fit to kick us in the teeth at the worst possible time after keeping them going over lockdown, while people all round the street topped up their tans last year having bbqs and piss ups while on furlough has really fked me up now.
Quite a few of those no doubt will have gone back and be getting on with their life now. The irony of me having to get up early for the 7th week in a row dealing with newbies on their first day and their problems over a crap line and lacking the tools to help anyone properly isn't lost on me that's for sure. It feels like rubbing salt into the wounds.
I just feel empty. It's Friday night and I should be happy but I just feel like a shell. Toking and drinking just to numb me and make me forget just for a few hours, trying to forget about the fact the only thing I have to look forward to is trying to overcome overwhelmingly poor odds to save my job, and basically nothing else. Can't even spend the money I'd planned for the house and car now just in case. This experience will finish me off before long.
While I feel like I can most likely get another job OK, the fact my firm saw fit to kick us in the teeth at the worst possible time after keeping them going over lockdown, while people all round the street topped up their tans last year having bbqs and piss ups while on furlough has really f
ked me up now. Quite a few of those no doubt will have gone back and be getting on with their life now. The irony of me having to get up early for the 7th week in a row dealing with newbies on their first day and their problems over a crap line and lacking the tools to help anyone properly isn't lost on me that's for sure. It feels like rubbing salt into the wounds.
I just feel empty. It's Friday night and I should be happy but I just feel like a shell. Toking and drinking just to numb me and make me forget just for a few hours, trying to forget about the fact the only thing I have to look forward to is trying to overcome overwhelmingly poor odds to save my job, and basically nothing else. Can't even spend the money I'd planned for the house and car now just in case. This experience will finish me off before long.
End of another week forced myself to leave the laptop as I could have just kept going...suspect I'll wake up tomorrow thinking it's time for work again.
It's been a really really tough week...struggling immensely with motivation and trying to power on through with a smile but the longer this goes on the more everyone seems to be grinding to a halt...not good...not good at all
It's been a really really tough week...struggling immensely with motivation and trying to power on through with a smile but the longer this goes on the more everyone seems to be grinding to a halt...not good...not good at all
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