Anyone else getting tired of it all?
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Took my autistic lad to Cobham services on the M25 for a Maccy Dee.
This business has made him more of a recluse and he did love the cinema or eating out.
Go to M-way services people, it's normality there. Everyone sitting in the food court eating burgers, nandos or drinking Starbucks coffee.
No wonder the carpark was rammed.
This business has made him more of a recluse and he did love the cinema or eating out.
Go to M-way services people, it's normality there. Everyone sitting in the food court eating burgers, nandos or drinking Starbucks coffee.
No wonder the carpark was rammed.
I'm tired of it all too, and really hoping we can indeed get back to normal (old normal) soon.
It's counter intuitive to advocate not wearing masks in shops or refusing COVID tests though. Whether you agree with the government's handing of the pandemic or not, one thing's for sure, if transmission increases too much before the vaccine roll-out is complete, we all risk being locked down for longer. I'd rather things got back to normal sooner.
It's counter intuitive to advocate not wearing masks in shops or refusing COVID tests though. Whether you agree with the government's handing of the pandemic or not, one thing's for sure, if transmission increases too much before the vaccine roll-out is complete, we all risk being locked down for longer. I'd rather things got back to normal sooner.
Gulf7 said:
I'm tired of it all too, and really hoping we can indeed get back to normal (old normal) soon.
It's counter intuitive to advocate not wearing masks in shops or refusing COVID tests though. Whether you agree with the government's handing of the pandemic or not, one thing's for sure, if transmission increases too much before the vaccine roll-out is complete, we all risk being locked down for longer. I'd rather things got back to normal sooner.
Yep, we're all thoroughly fed up, and there's no doubt that some of the government interventions have been rather questionable at best, but the situation is still basically that we're dealing with a virus that spreads through personal contact. So limiting this until enough people have received vaccines is going to help reduce how much longer we have to put up with this nightmare.It's counter intuitive to advocate not wearing masks in shops or refusing COVID tests though. Whether you agree with the government's handing of the pandemic or not, one thing's for sure, if transmission increases too much before the vaccine roll-out is complete, we all risk being locked down for longer. I'd rather things got back to normal sooner.
paulguitar said:
Gulf7 said:
I'm tired of it all too, and really hoping we can indeed get back to normal (old normal) soon.
It's counter intuitive to advocate not wearing masks in shops or refusing COVID tests though. Whether you agree with the government's handing of the pandemic or not, one thing's for sure, if transmission increases too much before the vaccine roll-out is complete, we all risk being locked down for longer. I'd rather things got back to normal sooner.
Yep, we're all thoroughly fed up, and there's no doubt that some of the government interventions have been rather questionable at best, but the situation is still basically that we're dealing with a virus that spreads through personal contact. So limiting this until enough people have received vaccines is going to help reduce how much longer we have to put up with this nightmare.It's counter intuitive to advocate not wearing masks in shops or refusing COVID tests though. Whether you agree with the government's handing of the pandemic or not, one thing's for sure, if transmission increases too much before the vaccine roll-out is complete, we all risk being locked down for longer. I'd rather things got back to normal sooner.
Yes things have been miserable, many people are struggling to cope, and some of the government's lockdown restrictions have arguably been excessive.
Having said that I find vaccine deniers and mask rejectors like smartpants reprehensible and deranged.
paulguitar said:
I'm saddened at how people have turned on each other, if ever there was a situation that needs us all pulling together, it's this.
Sadly that seems to be what we humans do as a species. Look for differences between ourselves and others, then do our utmost to amplify them. It's caused wars at it's extremes and it's behind all sorts of "hate crime" too. A natural instinct to be wary/afraid of anyone who looks or thinks differently to you. So why should Covid-19 be any different to the race debate, the current focus on random violence toward women, or any other matter where facts/figures/data are taken and spun to back up one opinion or another? Sad, yes, of course. But no-one should really be surprised by it all. And governments seem to love a bit of the old "divide and conquer" game too...After 28 days in one room without spending any time with anyone. Yes I'm well and truly f
ked off with the whole situation. My mental and physical state has gone off a cliff this last year.
I'm also fked off with the population as a whole. I thought we had a healthy scepticism of government and politics. It seems a pandemic ensures full compliance and no questioning of stupid rules, either from the media or society. Government funnily enough like this.
I just hope after we have vaccinated everyone we aren't back in this situation next year. Because if we are, it will have been for absolutely nothing. But like lockdown we will continue along saying we didn't vaccinate hard enough or some ste like that.
ked off with the whole situation. My mental and physical state has gone off a cliff this last year. I'm also f
ked off with the population as a whole. I thought we had a healthy scepticism of government and politics. It seems a pandemic ensures full compliance and no questioning of stupid rules, either from the media or society. Government funnily enough like this. I just hope after we have vaccinated everyone we aren't back in this situation next year. Because if we are, it will have been for absolutely nothing. But like lockdown we will continue along saying we didn't vaccinate hard enough or some s
te like that. Olivera said:
The Covid-19 vaccines give high levels of protection against serious illness, and help reduce trasnsmission, but don't eliminate it entirely. Therefore your mother could still have Covid-19, and may be passing it on unaware to those she is vaccinating (who do not yet have immunity).
Her patients signed up to get vaccinated by someone who is following the rules and protocols, not by someone who is breaking them.
Several colleagues have been off for several days after taking it citing 'feeling like sHer patients signed up to get vaccinated by someone who is following the rules and protocols, not by someone who is breaking them.
t' and 'exhausted for days' which doesn't sound particularly appealing at the moment. mikewilliams79 said:
Olivera said:
The Covid-19 vaccines give high levels of protection against serious illness, and help reduce trasnsmission, but don't eliminate it entirely. Therefore your mother could still have Covid-19, and may be passing it on unaware to those she is vaccinating (who do not yet have immunity).
Her patients signed up to get vaccinated by someone who is following the rules and protocols, not by someone who is breaking them.
Several colleagues have been off for several days after taking it citing 'feeling like sHer patients signed up to get vaccinated by someone who is following the rules and protocols, not by someone who is breaking them.
t' and 'exhausted for days' which doesn't sound particularly appealing at the moment. Olivera said:
The Covid-19 vaccines give high levels of protection against serious illness, and help reduce trasnsmission, but don't eliminate it entirely. Therefore your mother could still have Covid-19, and may be passing it on unaware to those she is vaccinating (who do not yet have immunity).
Her patients signed up to get vaccinated by someone who is following the rules and protocols, not by someone who is breaking them.
We aren't going to eradicate it. And how much protection do you want? I'd suggest giving the 95% at risk a 90% improvement of surviving or not dying of it is enough don't you? Her patients signed up to get vaccinated by someone who is following the rules and protocols, not by someone who is breaking them.
More than likely a mutation will occur somewhere elsewhere in the world where will need to redo all the ones at risk here. Why spend billions protecting one's that aren't affected?
You can claim we can vaccinate everyone and there will be no mutations in the UK, but what's the end game? Isolate the country for years until the rest of the world is vaccinated? It could be decades of playing whack a mole.
Or do we intend to administer 100s of millions of vaccinations for the whole population to deal with variants every year for decades to come?
The social cost is massive, and the threat of lockdown forever looms over us. That is not good for anyone's sanity.
Edited by Uggers on Sunday 14th March 20:57
mikewilliams79 said:
Carrot said:
Sounds a lot worse than the illness, which in most people including myself was practically invisible...
Exactly - as it is for whatever random % of people they're saying have no symptoms or very minor as chris whitty said back last march in the little opening speech.paulguitar said:
As has been said before, the range is from asymptomatic on one end to death on the other. It's a very odd illness.
Is it? For all I know, times in the past where I've had a cough or cold, or felt a bit rough for a few days could mean I've had a mild dose of something that could kill another person.Attempting to bring this back on track and get back to the intended purpose of providing a place to support each other...
How's everyone doing?
To lighten the mood this morning, I managed to throw my car key in the bin at the petrol station this morning, requiring an attendant to come and help me fish it out in front of the morning commuters!
How's everyone doing?
To lighten the mood this morning, I managed to throw my car key in the bin at the petrol station this morning, requiring an attendant to come and help me fish it out in front of the morning commuters!
Pete102 said:
Attempting to bring this back on track and get back to the intended purpose of providing a place to support each other...
How's everyone doing?
To lighten the mood this morning, I managed to throw my car key in the bin at the petrol station this morning, requiring an attendant to come and help me fish it out in front of the morning commuters!
I'm finding that the better weather combined with going out walking is really helping me. I'm using an app called 'Map my Walk' and it tells me that I am up to 60 miles this month. I met a friend who I have not seen for months last night and we walked for an hour and a half and had a good catch-up. How's everyone doing?
To lighten the mood this morning, I managed to throw my car key in the bin at the petrol station this morning, requiring an attendant to come and help me fish it out in front of the morning commuters!
Walking alone I listen to podcasts and audiobooks, just finished 'Sapiens', which was very thought-provoking.
I also think the longer days are a massive help.
Hopefully, we are all managing to hang on!
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