Pot belly!!!

[RMDB9]

bedtime now, am nicely tired

[Davetheraver]

anonymous said:

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So between me posting, and coming back to check i have had a day out with my son.

We did 38km on mountain bikes up some pretty brutal hills (and down again), we played some football in the passing rain and gale force winds, and we cleaned up a shed that had been damaged in the gales and skipped it, which involved a pretty lengthy hike up and down the garden a few times.

I have a belly as a result of a muscle separation. I have high blood pressure due to extreme stress. I sometimes eat the wrong things and I indulge in to much beer.

I am not overweight and I am not unfit. I am currently training for a 90 mile walk in the summer and the only requirement for training is to toughen the skin on my feet. Fitness isn't an issue.

I was pointing out that there are circumstances where there really is nothing you can do about it.

When it first developed and before I was diagnosed I tried to fix it with Planking and sit ups and burpees. Made it worse and more pronounced. I am weighing up the pros and cons of the surgery.

Thanks for your concern

[Davetheraver]

anonymous said:

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Oh and it's four years this summer since I did a marathon (3h28,) I was quicker years ago and I had it then as well.

Its not genetics, its a muscle separation from when I was laid up ill for a few months.

[Anthony Micallef]

Mykap said:

For Christ's sake just go keto

[RMDB9]

new week, rode my bike to get to the office and back

no twix bar after lunch

small changes, but they are changes.

[omniflow]

anonymous said:

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There was a review of what looks like a very interesting book in the Sunday Times on 21st Feb.

It covers a study by a scientist, tracking the calories burned by a certain tribe of people who are very active.

Effectively the conclusion that he came to was that the calories burned were not related to the amount of physical activity. If a person did alot of physical activity in one day, then the body would compensate by reducing the calories used by other parts of the body - e.g. brain, sex drive etc.

I've not read the book, only the review, and I've no idea if the chap that wrote it is respected or not. If it is correct, it does raise some interesting questions and maybe offer a different viewpoint to some posters on this thread.

[otolith]

The book I'm guessing is Burn by Herman Pontzer?

Based presumably on the research described here;

https://today.duke.edu/2019/01/living-caveman-won%...

[gregs656]

omniflow said:

There was a review of what looks like a very interesting book in the Sunday Times on 21st Feb.

It covers a study by a scientist, tracking the calories burned by a certain tribe of people who are very active.

Effectively the conclusion that he came to was that the calories burned were not related to the amount of physical activity. If a person did alot of physical activity in one day, then the body would compensate by reducing the calories used by other parts of the body - e.g. brain, sex drive etc.

I've not read the book, only the review, and I've no idea if the chap that wrote it is respected or not. If it is correct, it does raise some interesting questions and maybe offer a different viewpoint to some posters on this thread.

That theory has been around for quite some time. I remember it featuring on a documentary watched which must have been 10 years a go.

Makes sense to me.

[omniflow]

otolith said:

The book I'm guessing is Burn by Herman Pontzer?

Based presumably on the research described here;

https://today.duke.edu/2019/01/living-caveman-won%...

Yup - that's the one - just found the newspaper and re-read it.

[popeyewhite]

omniflow said:

otolith said:

The book I'm guessing is Burn by Herman Pontzer?

Based presumably on the research described here;

https://today.duke.edu/2019/01/living-caveman-won%...

Yup - that's the one - just found the newspaper and re-read it.

I've not read the book but it occurs to me the human body adapts to lifestyle, this is how you 'get fit' - the body gets used to a new exercise regime. While doing this it will burn more calories. Once CV and muscular endurance has improved however it will require less energy to perform the exercise. In short your fitness has improved.

I don't see anything in the article that might catch the attention of any coaches at the upcoming Olympics and lead them to reconsider their athletes' dietary habits... . Who knows though, if hunting antelope was introduced as an Olympic sport... .

[omniflow]

popeyewhite said:

I've not read the book but it occurs to me the human body adapts to lifestyle, this is how you 'get fit' - the body gets used to a new exercise regime. While doing this it will burn more calories. Once CV and muscular endurance has improved however it will require less energy to perform the exercise. In short your fitness has improved.

I don't see anything in the article that might catch the attention of any coaches at the upcoming Olympics and lead them to reconsider their athletes' dietary habits... . Who knows though, if hunting antelope was introduced as an Olympic sport... .

But I don't think that's what the research found.

My understanding was that any random person - let's call them Person A - burns (as an example) 3,000 calories in a day. They will burn that many calories in total whether they walk 4 miles that day, or 8 miles that day. On the days where they walk 8 miles, their body compensates by "slowing down" other areas such as brain activity.

[Anonymous-poster]

Anthony Micallef said:

Mykap said:

For Christ's sake just go keto

Does Keto change the laws of thermogenesis or is it the fact that keto puts you in a calorie deficit?

[gregs656]

popeyewhite said:

I've not read the book but it occurs to me the human body adapts to lifestyle, this is how you 'get fit' - the body gets used to a new exercise regime. While doing this it will burn more calories. Once CV and muscular endurance has improved however it will require less energy to perform the exercise. In short your fitness has improved.

I don't see anything in the article that might catch the attention of any coaches at the upcoming Olympics and lead them to reconsider their athletes' dietary habits... . Who knows though, if hunting antelope was introduced as an Olympic sport... .

There is quite a bit of research behind this.

This article is good - https://exss.unc.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/779/...

[MC Bodge]

omniflow said:

But I don't think that's what the research found.

My understanding was that any random person - let's call them Person A - burns (as an example) 3,000 calories in a day. They will burn that many calories in total whether they walk 4 miles that day, or 8 miles that day. On the days where they walk 8 miles, their body compensates by "slowing down" other areas such as brain activity.

It may work up to a point, but you won't contravene the laws of thermodynamics.

If somebody runs a marathon or carries a 30Kg pack across a mountain range, slowing down the other bodily functions wouldn't compensate for it.

[gregs656]

MC Bodge said:

It may work up to a point, but you won't contravene the laws of thermodynamics.

If somebody runs a marathon or carries a 30Kg pack across a mountain range, slowing down the other bodily functions wouldn't compensate for it.

Maybe not on the day, but the studies took an average. Day to day there are fluctuations, over a week these are averaged out.

The theory is that the level of activity of hunter gatherer communities which are about as close the environment we evolved into the humans we are today is about the amount of activities our bodies are expecting.

If we do less activity, we don't burn fewer calories, our bodies start ramping up bodily calorie intensive functions which would otherwise be depressed through using those calories elsewhere.

If you start exercise to compensate for the diet that you have piled on the pounds with, you're not going to lose weight because your body is still going to use the same amount of calories it did before, just on different functions.

Which is why exercise to lose weight is a waste of time, but it is absolutely necessary for a healthy life.

That makes sense to me.

[RMDB9]

Made another change today - moved lunch to 4pm as the only meal besides breakfast

Works very well.

[mcelliott]

RMDB9 said:

Made another change today - moved lunch to 4pm as the only meal besides breakfast

Works very well.

Well done.

[RMDB9]

And any "snacking" will now be cherry tomatoes only.

[mcelliott]

RMDB9 said:

And any "snacking" will now be cherry tomatoes only.

For me I like handful of blueberries or walnuts, both really good for digestion.

[Tin Hat]

I started a challenge with 10 other guys in January, 25 burpees a day for week 1, 50 a day in week 2, 75 a day in week 3 then 100. Hard, but achievable.

I am now on 6 No 60 second planks, 30 burpees and 40 lunges daily.

I’m 51 and I want to keep broadly healthy and as mobile as my body will allow, 20 minutes a day seems like a reasonable investment in my ageing frame.....

I would encourage anyone to try it, I was certainly not a fitness fanatic before I started it