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KTMsm said:
Bill said:
Being fat is down to calories in > calories out, poor tone is down to lack of exercise. I'm afraid it really is that simple. 
Luckily most don't believe you - you'd destroy the huge diet industry 
Louis Balfour said:
El stovey said:
Maybe older people trying to get fit could be inspired by older bloke youtubers in average shape saying “f’king hell this is tough” as they’re struggling through a set of press-ups?
It has occurred to me that there might be a market there, but I would not presume to service it. You could be the man however.Then i’m moving on to my book “let’s be honest, it’s all down hill from here but let’s go out fighting and try to not be totally unhealthy!” (Working title)
I’m struggling with the onlyfans thing though,
El stovey said:
I’m busy recording my “moobs and beer belly buster week - day 1” as we speak!
Then i’m moving on to my book “let’s be honest, it’s all down hill from here but let’s go out fighting and try to not be totally unhealthy!” (Working title)
I’m struggling with the onlyfans thing though,
Then i’m moving on to my book “let’s be honest, it’s all down hill from here but let’s go out fighting and try to not be totally unhealthy!” (Working title)
I’m struggling with the onlyfans thing though,
Must admit, I couldn't do keto or similar. It sounds like a really dull, dreary diet. Calorie control and hence portion controls are probably the way to go for anyone who actually enjoys food.
Louis Balfour said:
El stovey said:
I’m struggling with the onlyfans thing though,
I am not going to pay to see your arse. Actually I might pay not to see it. Perhaps that's an angle? Onlyfans blackmail. Pay me £250 or I'll show you my arse.
You’ll be missing out when I’m living in Santa Barbara and posting videos of me on muscle beach looking pale and saying “Christ it’s a bit hot”
mcelliott said:
But the op is not fat, it's merely his organs trying to escape! from what I can garner ten packets of crisps a day washed down with 3 pints of coconut oil should do it.
Dunno about the coconut oil but certainly if you only eat 10 packets of crisps a day, you will lose weight without exercise.Louis Balfour said:
El stovey said:
I know a few furloughed employees who’ve set themselves up as lifestyle and fitness coaches and gurus. There’s very few barriers to entry. Even things like being a therapist don’t have recognised standards as far as I can see,
Still though at least my Facebook is now full of hot females in their smalls showing their new bodies rather than people showing their lunch or what they got for Christmas. They can keep the inspirational memes though.
"Nutritionist" is another one. I know a lot of them. Completely unregulated and varying in quality from absolute shysters to basically OK, but rapacious. Still though at least my Facebook is now full of hot females in their smalls showing their new bodies rather than people showing their lunch or what they got for Christmas. They can keep the inspirational memes though.
Outside of qualified PTs I have had some of the best nutritional advice from people involved with sports therapy, e.g. physios, osteopaths and those sorts of people.
PS You won't get insurance without having relevant qualifications. So the easiest way to tell an Instafake from a real therapist is by asking for their quals and insurance. Same goes for things like yoga and pilates teachers, and fitness instructors running Zumba etc.
TameRacingDriver said:
Must admit, I couldn't do keto or similar. It sounds like a really dull, dreary diet. Calorie control and hence portion controls are probably the way to go for anyone who actually enjoys food.
There are a lot of people on this thread stating things as absolute fact - the things they are stating might be fact for them but that approach doesn't necessarily work for others. The "fact" that over weight people eat too much and lack the discipline to be thin is very negative. I, for instance, can't eat dairy - even a small amount makes me bloat and become fat. It took me until I was late 30s to find that out, before that I was just a fattie with no self discipline.
NorthDave said:
Actually it is the complete opposite of that. If you enjoy food then portion control and watching the amount you eat to that extent is hell on earth. Doing keto you can eat as much as you want when you want which is liberating.
There are a lot of people on this thread stating things as absolute fact - the things they are stating might be fact for them but that approach doesn't necessarily work for others. The "fact" that over weight people eat too much and lack the discipline to be thin is very negative. I, for instance, can't eat dairy - even a small amount makes me bloat and become fat. It took me until I was late 30s to find that out, before that I was just a fattie with no self discipline.
For the vast majority of overweight people they do eat too much.....and/or move to little.There are a lot of people on this thread stating things as absolute fact - the things they are stating might be fact for them but that approach doesn't necessarily work for others. The "fact" that over weight people eat too much and lack the discipline to be thin is very negative. I, for instance, can't eat dairy - even a small amount makes me bloat and become fat. It took me until I was late 30s to find that out, before that I was just a fattie with no self discipline.
As always there are exceptions
NorthDave said:
Actually it is the complete opposite of that. If you enjoy food then portion control and watching the amount you eat to that extent is hell on earth. Doing keto you can eat as much as you want when you want which is liberating.
There are a lot of people on this thread stating things as absolute fact - the things they are stating might be fact for them but that approach doesn't necessarily work for others. The "fact" that over weight people eat too much and lack the discipline to be thin is very negative. I, for instance, can't eat dairy - even a small amount makes me bloat and become fat. It took me until I was late 30s to find that out, before that I was just a fattie with no self discipline.
Being bloated and being fat aren’t the same. Dairy may have bloated you, but it’s only makes you fat of you consumed too much of it.There are a lot of people on this thread stating things as absolute fact - the things they are stating might be fact for them but that approach doesn't necessarily work for others. The "fact" that over weight people eat too much and lack the discipline to be thin is very negative. I, for instance, can't eat dairy - even a small amount makes me bloat and become fat. It took me until I was late 30s to find that out, before that I was just a fattie with no self discipline.
If you limit the type of foods you eat, you’ll likely lose weight, if you limit the times at which you can eat you’ll likely loose weight. Both because you’re eating less.
Hoofy said:
FYI, things like therapist and nutritionists - you can claim to be one but many have established qualifications and relevant insurance. I certainly do. I'm not a nutritionist, though.
PS You won't get insurance without having relevant qualifications. So the easiest way to tell an Instafake from a real therapist is by asking for their quals and insurance. Same goes for things like yoga and pilates teachers, and fitness instructors running Zumba etc.
Sure but someone else could presumably still set themselves up and legally work as a therapist without any formal qualifications. PS You won't get insurance without having relevant qualifications. So the easiest way to tell an Instafake from a real therapist is by asking for their quals and insurance. Same goes for things like yoga and pilates teachers, and fitness instructors running Zumba etc.
https://www.bacp.co.uk/careers/careers-in-counsell...
“ BACP, and other professional associations, set their own standards for training in counselling and psychotherapy as there are no compulsory training courses or qualifications for therapists”
TameRacingDriver said:
Must admit, I couldn't do keto or similar. It sounds like a really dull, dreary diet. Calorie control and hence portion controls are probably the way to go for anyone who actually enjoys food.
The first thing is - the calorie control and portion control are done for you. The mix of foods that you eat means that you're nowhere close to being as hungry as you were previously - and apart from the first week or so, you have as much or more energy than before. As I posted above - I eat at 6pm - go for a 5 mile walk the next morning and don't eat until 1pm - at which point I am nowhere close to starving and what would have previously been a starter is enough to last me until 6pm.
The second thing is - there is loads of nice food you can cook and eat. Steak without chips is fine - the chips aren't an essential part of the meal. It's really not difficult to cook tasty and interesting food without using too many carbs. On Saturday we had whole turbot, grilled on the BBQ, with asparagus, tenderstem brocolli and a beurre blanc sauce. At the end of that I was full.
I would class myself as someone who enjoys food - a lot. I will happily drive 25 or 30 miles to buy ingredients - and go to 3 or 4 different shops to get everything I need. I will also happily spend 3 or 4 hours in the afternoon preparing food (not every day).
Keto is the first diet I've had any success with. I've been doing it 6 weeks, lost nearly 13Kg and I am still enjoying it and motivated to continue.
El stovey said:
Hoofy said:
FYI, things like therapist and nutritionists - you can claim to be one but many have established qualifications and relevant insurance. I certainly do. I'm not a nutritionist, though.
PS You won't get insurance without having relevant qualifications. So the easiest way to tell an Instafake from a real therapist is by asking for their quals and insurance. Same goes for things like yoga and pilates teachers, and fitness instructors running Zumba etc.
Sure but someone else could presumably still set themselves up and legally work as a therapist without any formal qualifications. PS You won't get insurance without having relevant qualifications. So the easiest way to tell an Instafake from a real therapist is by asking for their quals and insurance. Same goes for things like yoga and pilates teachers, and fitness instructors running Zumba etc.
https://www.bacp.co.uk/careers/careers-in-counsell...
“ BACP, and other professional associations, set their own standards for training in counselling and psychotherapy as there are no compulsory training courses or qualifications for therapists”
"Who did you train with?"
"When did you qualify?"
"What CPD have you done recently?"
"Who are you insured with?"
Just like I could legally get Dave down the pub to install a new stairs even if he hasn't had any formal training or even knows how to use a saw.
As an aside, it will be interesting to see what happens if someone calls out an energy healer who has insurance but is going around telling everyone Covid is made up and you're wearing a mask because you're being controlled by lizards. And then someone catches Covid and now has long Covid and has to quit their job because they listened to Mystic Meg.
Hoofy said:
So the easiest way to tell an Instafake from a real therapist is by asking for their quals and insurance.
All therapist's I know are members of the BACP, this ensures adequate training and professional delivery of service. As a qualified Sports Psychologist I'm also a member of the BPS. Quals can be faked - just make them up - and insurers aren't bothered who you qualified with (in general). One year my cover was supplied by an outfit that primarily specialised in hair salon cover. Anthony Micallef said:
As i said Keto is just another way of getting a calorie deficit. If you do a 'normal' calorie restriction and are hungry then eat more protein. Why anyone would think that low/no carb diet is a good thing is beyond me. Everyone needs the right amount of carbs in their diet.
Quote 'eat more protein ' yes because your body has no requirement for carbs it needs fat nutrients and protein.
I'm not arguing, keto becomes a way if life and I'm speaking as a former fat b
d who has lost 25kg in 6 months. At my target weight of 100kg now and never felt better. It fits in with my love of bbq'ing . Love it.
popeyewhite said:
Hoofy said:
So the easiest way to tell an Instafake from a real therapist is by asking for their quals and insurance.
All therapist's I know are members of the BACP, this ensures adequate training and professional delivery of service. As a qualified Sports Psychologist I'm also a member of the BPS. Quals can be faked - just make them up - and insurers aren't bothered who you qualified with (in general). One year my cover was supplied by an outfit that primarily specialised in hair salon cover. Mykap said:
Anthony Micallef said:
As i said Keto is just another way of getting a calorie deficit. If you do a 'normal' calorie restriction and are hungry then eat more protein. Why anyone would think that low/no carb diet is a good thing is beyond me. Everyone needs the right amount of carbs in their diet.
Quote 'eat more protein ' yes because your body has no requirement for carbs it needs fat nutrients and protein.
I'm not arguing, keto becomes a way if life and I'm speaking as a former fat b
d who has lost 25kg in 6 months. At my target weight of 100kg now and never felt better. It fits in with my love of bbq'ing . Love it.
Hoofy said:
The problem comes to claiming time. What's the point in even buying insurance if you're going to be left high and dry by the company in the event of a claim - and let's face it, if you're not properly qualified/trained, winging it with fake quals and therefore fake insurance is going to be in the therapist's mind. It's like fronting and getting car insurance cheap.
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