Vaccine side effects

[parakitaMol.]

This might be of interest.

A webinar from last week- update from the Zoe team.
https://youtu.be/JoCDpIKBhCY

Interesting that more females reported side effects than men. They mention why that might be.

More reactions to the first AZ, less to the second
Less reaction to first Pfizer and more to second

Overall more reaction to AZ than Pfizer

[Scrump]

parakitaMol. said:

Interesting that more females reported side effects than men. They mention why that might be.

Could you give a summary of why that might be?
(I am not able to watch an hour long video until later)

[Louis Balfour]

Scrump said:

parakitaMol. said:

Interesting that more females reported side effects than men. They mention why that might be.

Could you give a summary of why that might be?

Because they do like to moan.

[anonymous-user]

Louis Balfour said:

Scrump said:

parakitaMol. said:

Interesting that more females reported side effects than men. They mention why that might be.

Could you give a summary of why that might be?

Because they do like to moan.

You’re in real trouble now

[parakitaMol.]

Scrump said:

Could you give a summary of why that might be?
(I am not able to watch an hour long video until later)

OMG lol no! Just watch it later

[Louis Balfour]

I had the text this morning.

The nearest place I am being offered it 15 miles away, and it's not an easy journey. The list pretty quickly runs to 40 miles.

Nottingham, our nearest city, has no appointments.

How far have you guys needed to go?

[Louis Balfour]

anonymous said:

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The 15 mile one is Mansfield. Park at the civic centre and it's at an ex Homebase. Some of the other more distant ones are, it would appear, show grounds and the like.

Perhaps my expectation that it would be nearby was unreasonable.

[bmwmike]

garyhun said:

paulguitar said:

garyhun said:

Exactly what I posted.

Why would I chance being injected with something that protects me from something that is incredibly low risk when the long term rinks of the vaccine are unknown?

I see that the other way around. We have no reason to think there are likely to be any long-term risks from the vaccine, whereas we know for certain there is a significant risk of long-term issues from covid.

Au contraire!

We absolutely know the risks of Covid for those under 60, fit and healthy - we have real life stats. We cannot know the long term side effects of a vaccine that has only been in existence for months - unless you have a time machine.

I'm not at all sure we do know the risks of long covid. Its been stated as a binary outcome, largely, in the media and so on - you either die or you don't. I still see media spouting the "kids don't catch covid" nonsense. They catch the virus, they may or may not develop covid. Fwiw, and this is PH after all, I am 45 and fit, and for a large part of last year was firmly in the "not bothered at all" camp. Well i caught it early Jan and am still suffering effects now. In fact in our bubble of 5 healthy adults and 3 healthy children, one of those children is still suffering effects, 3 of the adults had a terrible dose, one didn't catch it (bizarrely) and one is no longer with us. Its bizarre how it can affect some people so badly, and others barely at all. The long covid side, though, is largely not known.

[Louis Balfour]

By dint of what would appear to be a chaotic booking system, contradictory advice from NHS and some social engineering, I have now managed to get a jab in Nottingham this Friday.

[ayedubya]

my elderly mother (76) had the vaccine last tuesday, she is very annoyingly old school never takes the flu vaccine etc, generally avoids doc whenever possible. but in order to see her kids she got it....... had some bad side effects. now adamant she is not going to get the booster.

its so infuriating how stubborn she is. i am wondering how i will get her to go thru with the booster.

[pidsy]

pidsy said:

After the jab yesterday - went to bed feeling fine.

Woke up at 4 am shivering. Felt freezing cold and achey all over.
I haven’t got hot at all, just cold. I ache everywhere but mainly my lower back, neck and arms. I’ve got a headache and feel very foggy brained today.

Edit to add I had the AZ vaccine.

Edited by pidsy on Monday 8th March 11:52

Feel hugely better today.

Still somewhat achey but a LOT better than yesterday.

[snowen250]

AZ vaccine administered at 9:40AM Saturday morning.
For info if it matters, im 32, healthy, normal BMI etc etc, but well controlled type 1 Diabetic. Hence i got the jab earlier then others.
Went for a long (11 miles) walk on Saturday, felt fine.

However, around 8pm Saturday evening i felt a bit rough. Couldn't concentrate. So went to bed. By 10pm i was shivering so harshly that i couldn't give myself my insulin, as i couldn't keep my hand still enough. My head was exploding as if i had a migraine, and my entire body hurt. It was mental. I was wrapped up in bed with a hot water bottle, but i felt like it was minus 10.

By 1AM shivers had gone, head was groggy and i ached.

Sunday headache and muscles ache.

Now on Tuesday my arm is sore, as it has been since to be fair, other symptoms gone.

At no point did my blood sugars change from normal.

Overall, not pleasant, but not deadly. 7/10 Would vaccine again.

[colin_p]

To add to the mix, my experience;

Me 50y/o with heart electrical issues (defib / pacemaker installed) and take a lot of powerful heart drugs. I recently had the notification stating I was on the vulnerable list and therefore was invited to have the covid jab.

No travelling luckily as the jabbing was being done at the town hall, a few miles away.

Oxford Astra Zenica jab jabbed. Bit of a sore arm for a day or two but thankfully no other side effects which was a surprise as I remember as a child in the 70's having a jab (no idea what it was but also involved a sugar lump) at school and that making me feel quite ill.

I hope everyone else has a similar side effect free experience!

[Funk]

The common thread seems to be that if you do have side effects they can be unpleasant - but on the plus side, short-lived.

[anonymous-user]

anonymous said:

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I’m in a small village on the outskirts of York and the mass vaccination centre is only a 5 minute drive for me.

[Scrump]

Louis Balfour said:

I had the text this morning.

The nearest place I am being offered it 15 miles away, and it's not an easy journey. The list pretty quickly runs to 40 miles.

Nottingham, our nearest city, has no appointments.

How far have you guys needed to go?

A few hundred yards from my house at the local GP surgery.
The other two main vaccination sites were both about 5 miles away.

[anonymous-user]

bmwmike said:

garyhun said:

paulguitar said:

garyhun said:

Exactly what I posted.

Why would I chance being injected with something that protects me from something that is incredibly low risk when the long term rinks of the vaccine are unknown?

I see that the other way around. We have no reason to think there are likely to be any long-term risks from the vaccine, whereas we know for certain there is a significant risk of long-term issues from covid.

Au contraire!

We absolutely know the risks of Covid for those under 60, fit and healthy - we have real life stats. We cannot know the long term side effects of a vaccine that has only been in existence for months - unless you have a time machine.

I'm not at all sure we do know the risks of long covid. Its been stated as a binary outcome, largely, in the media and so on - you either die or you don't. I still see media spouting the "kids don't catch covid" nonsense. They catch the virus, they may or may not develop covid. Fwiw, and this is PH after all, I am 45 and fit, and for a large part of last year was firmly in the "not bothered at all" camp. Well i caught it early Jan and am still suffering effects now. In fact in our bubble of 5 healthy adults and 3 healthy children, one of those children is still suffering effects, 3 of the adults had a terrible dose, one didn't catch it (bizarrely) and one is no longer with us. Its bizarre how it can affect some people so badly, and others barely at all. The long covid side, though, is largely not known.

All valid points Mike. You’ll see from my post a day or so ago that I’ve changed my view and decided to get the jab after considering all the points made.

Hope you feel better soon!

[parakitaMol.]

Had mine (AZ) on Sunday AM, felt a bit weird but nothing major. Felt very spaced out on Monday and a bit headachey - rather like a hangover. Arm hurts and today feel fine.

Others I know have been unable to function with severe headache/fever for a couple of days

More puzzling is that OH and I both had the Antibody test last week, mine was negative and his was positive!!

[Maximus_Meridius101]

parakitaMol. said:

More puzzling is that OH and I both had the Antibody test last week, mine was negative and his was positive!!

Which antibodies was his test showing positive for? On a LFT, there will be three possible lines, one is the control line, the other two are antibody lines. One is evidence of a previous infection, some time ago, and the other is evidence of probable more recent infection, because one type of the antibody tends to pass from the system more quickly than the other one. If you have both lines present ( in addition to the Control line ) you have both types of antibody present.

[Louis Balfour]

Scrump said:

Louis Balfour said:

I had the text this morning.

The nearest place I am being offered it 15 miles away, and it's not an easy journey. The list pretty quickly runs to 40 miles.

Nottingham, our nearest city, has no appointments.

How far have you guys needed to go?

A few hundred yards from my house at the local GP surgery.
The other two main vaccination sites were both about 5 miles away.

I had hoped that our surgery would do it, but sadly no. The place where I am going is an area where people more often inject themselves.