Vaccine side effects

[The Mad Monk]

Louis Balfour said:

lowdrag said:

My final post on the subject. First jab of Pfizer 3/2/21 and second 3/3/21. Didn't feel the needle and no side effects whatsoever except a feeling as if I had a slight bruise on my arm Which is quite probable) for a few hours after the second one. I am 75 by the way.

The news footage of people getting the jab shows quite a long needle being pushed directly in, which would enter the muscle if appearances are correct. Is that the reality of the situation?

Why are you asking?

[anonymous-user]

Louis Balfour said:

The news footage of people getting the jab shows quite a long needle being pushed directly in, which would enter the muscle if appearances are correct. Is that the reality of the situation?

Just man up and get it done!

[21TonyK]

Jonmx said:

38 and had my Pfizer jab this morning on account of having Bipolar. Currently on a 6 month course of steroids for an auto immune issue and was reassuringly told that they have no idea how it interacts with steroids or auto immune conditions. 3 hours in and no side effects yet!
A lot of people there for their second dose which was good to see.

I posted this way back...

https://www.immunology.org/news/bsi-statement-covi...

And since then BBC said...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56256505

And also...

https://www.astrazeneca.com/media-centre/press-rel...

A few reports from people with Sarc not developing antibodies after vaccination but not verfied just people saying so on support groups.

I did mention it to my consultant and she wasn't really aware of any issue, just said good you've had it done. Even if not 100% at least its something! There is also talk of immunosuppressed having boosters or annual jabs.

The general consensus seems to be 20mg or more of Pred a day and its a possible problem (also the shielding threshold) and if injected it may be worth delaying the steroids or vaccination.

Edited by 21TonyK on Wednesday 10th March 13:29

[Louis Balfour]

garyhun said:

Louis Balfour said:

The news footage of people getting the jab shows quite a long needle being pushed directly in, which would enter the muscle if appearances are correct. Is that the reality of the situation?

Just man up and get it done!

You're the vaccine equivalent of an ex-smoker.

I was going to ask for a bigger needle actually.

[F1fan97]

Louis Balfour said:

The news footage of people getting the jab shows quite a long needle being pushed directly in, which would enter the muscle if appearances are correct. Is that the reality of the situation?

Most vaccines (including this one) are intramuscular - most often given in the deltoid

[lowdrag]

The Mad Monk said:

Louis Balfour said:

lowdrag said:

My final post on the subject. First jab of Pfizer 3/2/21 and second 3/3/21. Didn't feel the needle and no side effects whatsoever except a feeling as if I had a slight bruise on my arm Which is quite probable) for a few hours after the second one. I am 75 by the way.

The news footage of people getting the jab shows quite a long needle being pushed directly in, which would enter the muscle if appearances are correct. Is that the reality of the situation?

Why are you asking?

Well, logically, if it was a long needle it would also hit the bone too, but no, just average size I suppose. I didn't feel it go in or out so an old weed like me would otherwise have felt it I guess. If you are frightened of needles (and it seems a lot are ) surely the length doesn't come into it anyway.

[Louis Balfour]

lowdrag said:

The Mad Monk said:

Louis Balfour said:

lowdrag said:

My final post on the subject. First jab of Pfizer 3/2/21 and second 3/3/21. Didn't feel the needle and no side effects whatsoever except a feeling as if I had a slight bruise on my arm Which is quite probable) for a few hours after the second one. I am 75 by the way.

The news footage of people getting the jab shows quite a long needle being pushed directly in, which would enter the muscle if appearances are correct. Is that the reality of the situation?

Why are you asking?

Well, logically, if it was a long needle it would also hit the bone too, but no, just average size I suppose. I didn't feel it go in or out so an old weed like me would otherwise have felt it I guess. If you are frightened of needles (and it seems a lot are ) surely the length doesn't come into it anyway.

I don't LIKE needles, as in I don't seek them out. But I have had enough jabs, including self-administered, that they don't concern me.

I was more intrigued than anything else. Most jabs I have had (including the ones I have done myself) have been into fat. Even though someone as athletic as me does struggle to find injection sites.

[anonymous-user]

Louis Balfour said:

garyhun said:

Louis Balfour said:

The news footage of people getting the jab shows quite a long needle being pushed directly in, which would enter the muscle if appearances are correct. Is that the reality of the situation?

Just man up and get it done!

You're the vaccine equivalent of an ex-smoker.

I was going to ask for a bigger needle actually.

[Maximus_Meridius101]

I read that use of the OAZ vaccine has been halted in Iceland and Denmark to the over 65s because of an incident of someone developing a fatal blood clot.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/03/11/denmar...

Edited by Maximus_Meridius101 on Thursday 11th March 12:05

[deckster]

BBC said:

Overall, 22 cases of thromboembolic events have been reported among the three million people vaccinated with the AstraZeneca vaccine in the European Economic Area.

You'll forgive me if I don't fall over gibbering in panic.

[lowdrag]

The use of the Astra Zeneca vaccine has been halted in Denmark after "globules" of blood have been found in some people who have had this vaccine.

[stuartmmcfc]

I had the AZ vaccine on Monday. Hugely smooth process especially as I was taken to the front of the line (presumably because I’m in a wheelchair?)
Mid morning Tuesday I felt awful! Really “foggy” but no aches as such but all my ms symptoms flared right up. Tuesday night I slept really bad and acted quite delirious! Wednesday morning I couldn’t get out of bed but after a couple of paracetamol my temperature came down and I could move my limbs and so could get up. Today I’m a bit weak.
Do I think it’s wothwhile?
Would I do it again?
A definite yes to both questions.

[lowdrag]

SWMBO had her first jab yesterday, but I had Pfizer on 3/2 and 3/3 now she has had the AZ. She has been quite poorly, flushed, and certainly under the weather.

[Louis Balfour]

I've just spoken to one of our solicitors who was able, via his GP, to specify the Pfizer.

[Maximus_Meridius101]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-56369550

And now Thailand have stopped the OAZ vaccinations. These aren’t just “globules” there have been fatalities. If I’m not offered the Pfizer jab, I’m not risking it.

[GT03ROB]

Louis Balfour said:

How far have you guys needed to go?

I think this has all been bit of a shambles.

My wife was called by local GPs for a jab, but despite there being a vaccine centre at the practice had to go 15miles away. I then got a letter telling me I could book. Tried & couldn't get anywhere local, best was 35 miles away. 2 days later get a text from GP practice saying I can book. Do that & get the GPs practice which is 3 miles away!

[Maximus_Meridius101]

lowdrag said:

SWMBO had her first jab yesterday, but I had Pfizer on 3/2 and 3/3 now she has had the AZ. She has been quite poorly, flushed, and certainly under the weather.

I’m hearing a lot of people have reacted relatively badly to the OAZ vaccine.

[paulguitar]

Maximus_Meridius101 said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-56369550

And now Thailand have stopped the OAZ vaccinations. These aren’t just “globules” there have been fatalities. If I’m not offered the Pfizer jab, I’m not risking it.

Your linked article is mostly about how there is no evidence of any problems.

[Funk]

GT03ROB said:

Louis Balfour said:

How far have you guys needed to go?

I think this has all been bit of a shambles.

My wife was called by local GPs for a jab, but despite there being a vaccine centre at the practice had to go 15miles away. I then got a letter telling me I could book. Tried & couldn't get anywhere local, best was 35 miles away. 2 days later get a text from GP practice saying I can book. Do that & get the GPs practice which is 3 miles away!

When mine was offered, it said that the 'wider NHS programme' might offer it too alongside the invitation from my GP and not to 'double up'. It made mention of the fact this might be at a regional location rather than local. Mine was at my GP group's main surgery a couple of miles away in the end and I didn't receive any secondary notification.

[peterg1955]

Maximus_Meridius101 said:

lowdrag said:

SWMBO had her first jab yesterday, but I had Pfizer on 3/2 and 3/3 now she has had the AZ. She has been quite poorly, flushed, and certainly under the weather.

I’m hearing a lot of people have reacted relatively badly to the OAZ vaccine.

Define 'a lot', over 11 million people have received the OAZ vaccine in the UK alone but you only hear about the tiny percentage of people who experienced an adverse reaction (they will mostly have co-morbidities affecting their general health anyway).

I had the OAZ a month ago (65, not had a spleen since 1983 after 2 bouts of cancer in my 20s) and had no more reaction then I get with my annual flu vaccine which was fatigue and a sore arm, my sister who is 71 equally had a sore arm and felt a bit tired for 48 hours afterwards.