Vaccine side effects

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Saleen836

11,135 posts

210 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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I read something online a few days ago that the risk of a blood clot from the OAZ vaccine is lower than the risk of taking the contraceptive pill (women obviously)

Derek Smith

45,762 posts

249 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Saleen836 said:
I read something online a few days ago that the risk of a blood clot from the OAZ vaccine is lower than the risk of taking the contraceptive pill (women obviously)
I had a friend who, by mistake, took his wife's contraceptive pills, thinking they were for headache. His wife discovered they were missing and was bemused. He was aware of the health risks for women and spoke with his doctor. He asked what the effects might be. The doctor said - and I'd be surprised if you're not there already - 'You probably won't get pregnant.' His wife, who was there to get more pills, and her doctor enjoyed their little bit of fun he said.

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

68 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Derek Smith said:
I had a friend who, by mistake, took his wife's contraceptive pills, thinking they were for headache. His wife discovered they were missing and was bemused. He was aware of the health risks for women and spoke with his doctor. He asked what the effects might be. The doctor said - and I'd be surprised if you're not there already - 'You probably won't get pregnant.' His wife, who was there to get more pills, and her doctor enjoyed their little bit of fun he said.
and did he?

If not it certainly proves the effectiveness of them!

Riley Blue

21,004 posts

227 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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We both had our second AZ vaccination late yesterday afternoon.

Me - no side effects whatsoever, not even the sore arm I had after the first one.

O/H - sore arm, pain in armpit, hot and shivery, grumpy.

LeroyLoser

695 posts

39 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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RammyMP said:
LeroyLoser said:
2nd jab yesterday, not good frown
Did you have the Pfizer? Reports are that the AZ jab hits you on the first dose, the Pfizer on the second dose.
I’d like to answer you but i cant, my head fell off last night frown sorry for the inconvenience.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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LeroyLoser said:
RammyMP said:
LeroyLoser said:
2nd jab yesterday, not good frown
Did you have the Pfizer? Reports are that the AZ jab hits you on the first dose, the Pfizer on the second dose.
I’d like to answer you but i cant, my head fell off last night frown sorry for the inconvenience.
Pfizer in that case.

shtu

3,469 posts

147 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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AZ first dose.

Headache, general aching, tired. Bit like a cold without the sneezing and runny nose. All seems pretty standard, and a couple of paracetamol made a surprising difference.

Sheets Tabuer

19,050 posts

216 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Still nothing, had to look in the mirror to find the injection site but cant even find that.

Starting to doubt my own sanity now, did I imagine having it hehe

Don1

15,954 posts

209 months

Saturday 10th April 2021
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Still nothing, had to look in the mirror to find the injection site but cant even find that.

Starting to doubt my own sanity now, did I imagine having it hehe
Must be the mind reprogramming from the microchip. All will be well.

Catz

4,812 posts

212 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Sheets Tabuer said:
24 hours in, no side effects, nada, nowt, not even a sore arm where they did it.
Same!
AZ yesterday and not even a bump on my arm where I got injected.

deckster

9,630 posts

256 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Jumped on the NHS booking site as soon as I heard it was opening up to over-45s, booked in for tomorrow afternoon in Reading. Loads of slots available as well. woohoo


TheGreatSoprendo

5,286 posts

250 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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For those that have experienced side effects, how long do they take to kick in?

Leithen

10,961 posts

268 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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TheGreatSoprendo said:
For those that have experienced side effects, how long do they take to kick in?
About 10 hours for me.

ElectricSoup

8,202 posts

152 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Maximus_Meridius101 said:
The potential issue with the OAZ vaccines regarding blood clots is interesting. On one hand, we get “Keep taking the OAZ vaccine, it’s safe”, simultaneously we get “we’re stopping the experimental roll out of the OAZ vaccine for younger people / children, because of the risk from blood clots” rofl.
If your reaction to this situation is laughter and suspicion, then you don't understand what's happening, or the definiton of "safe" in clinical terms.

It is safe. It is already proven safe. If rare blood clots are found to be related to the vaccine, and added to guidance around potential side effects, then the vaccine is still safe, it is only that a rare side effect has been discovered. It is not uncommon for drugs and treatments to have guidance such as this added, it does not render them "unsafe". Safety has been proven.

Edited by ElectricSoup on Tuesday 13th April 13:44


Edited by ElectricSoup on Tuesday 13th April 13:45

Road2Ruin

5,257 posts

217 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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ElectricSoup said:
Maximus_Meridius101 said:
The potential issue with the OAZ vaccines regarding blood clots is interesting. On one hand, we get “Keep taking the OAZ vaccine, it’s safe”, simultaneously we get “we’re stopping the experimental roll out of the OAZ vaccine for younger people / children, because of the risk from blood clots” rofl.
If your reaction to this situation is laughter and suspicion, then you don't understand what's happening, or the definiton of "safe" inclinical terms.

It is safe. It is already proven safe. If rare blood clots are found to be related to the vaccine, and added to guidance around potential side effects, then the vaccine is stil safe, it is only that a rare side effect has been discovered. It is not uncommon for drugs and treatments to have guidance such as this added, it does not render them "unsafe". Safety has been proven.
Indeed. I believe paracetamol has a similar risk, but you would take it without thinking!

MYOB

4,810 posts

139 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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ElectricSoup said:
Safety has been proven.
Only short term safety has been proven to be "safe".

smn159

12,748 posts

218 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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MYOB said:
ElectricSoup said:
Safety has been proven.
Only short term safety has been proven to be "safe".
Safety is always safe, surely?

MYOB

4,810 posts

139 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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smn159 said:
MYOB said:
ElectricSoup said:
Safety has been proven.
Only short term safety has been proven to be "safe".
Safety is always safe, surely?
Nope!

Boringvolvodriver

8,997 posts

44 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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smn159 said:
MYOB said:
ElectricSoup said:
Safety has been proven.
Only short term safety has been proven to be "safe".
Safety is always safe, surely?
Never done any risk assessment then? Something can be safe until it becomes unsafe after a period of time or by the introduction of an outside influence.


F1fan97

33 posts

41 months

Tuesday 13th April 2021
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Had the Pfizer jab. For the first dose the only really effect was a sore arm (noticeably more so than flu jabs etc I've had in the past). For the second dose I got the sore arm again but with flu-y tiredness starting probably around 18 hours later. All gone by the following day