Vaccine side effects
Discussion
Leithen said:
ovlovlover said:
Had covid recently?
Sounds like long covid type symptoms. Usually last 1-2 months post infection.
It’ll be fascinating to see what happens to long COVID symptoms when pubs and foreign holidays are on again. Sounds like long covid type symptoms. Usually last 1-2 months post infection.
But I'm sure you're correct in your link and concern regarding the poor mental health of the nation during lockdown and perceived physical manifestations of disease.
I had the AZ vaccine and 48 hours later got painfully swollen tonsils and an elongated uvula, lasted about five days and was most unpleasant. I could feel my uvula resting on the back of my tongue and it would slide about over it as I moved my head... it also gave me the sensation of slowly suffocating. Not nice. Hope the second one is better!
Some research came out recently which seems to suggest the most likely cause of "long covid" or serious side effects (as well as death) are low endogenous levels of glutathione. Glutathione is our "master antioxidant" and seriously helps protect and stimulate the immune system.
We can make it ourselves, but a poor diet will not only mean we make less of it, but also that we use more of what we do have. This can easily explain why some otherwise seemingly healthy people have long term symptoms.
If you're worried it may be worth supplementing with liposomal glutathione 500mg/day. As far as supplements go, it's not especially cheap, mind. Pick correctly, some can taste FOUL because it has sulphur in it.
We can make it ourselves, but a poor diet will not only mean we make less of it, but also that we use more of what we do have. This can easily explain why some otherwise seemingly healthy people have long term symptoms.
If you're worried it may be worth supplementing with liposomal glutathione 500mg/day. As far as supplements go, it's not especially cheap, mind. Pick correctly, some can taste FOUL because it has sulphur in it.
I'm late 40s. Had OAZ first dose last Friday (8 days ago).
On the Friday night I woke up shivering cold around 2am, which was very unusual for me, and I struggled to sleep any more that night.
I was pretty lethargic and achy on the Saturday but then I imagine that's as much a result of the lack of sleep and the 5 pints I'd had on Friday evening as side effects of the vaccine.
My arm felt bruised for a few days after the jab but interestingly the pain was quite a bit lower down than where the needle went in.
Edit to add: I had mine at a village hall about 10 miles away, run by a local pharmacy. It was very well run and seemingly staffed completely by volunteer retirees, other than the people actually administering the vaccine.
It was very well run and slick. Couldn't fault it at all.
On the Friday night I woke up shivering cold around 2am, which was very unusual for me, and I struggled to sleep any more that night.
I was pretty lethargic and achy on the Saturday but then I imagine that's as much a result of the lack of sleep and the 5 pints I'd had on Friday evening as side effects of the vaccine.
My arm felt bruised for a few days after the jab but interestingly the pain was quite a bit lower down than where the needle went in.
Edit to add: I had mine at a village hall about 10 miles away, run by a local pharmacy. It was very well run and seemingly staffed completely by volunteer retirees, other than the people actually administering the vaccine.
It was very well run and slick. Couldn't fault it at all.
Edited by PorkInsider on Saturday 24th April 21:46
Thank you to the well wishers, I'm 72 hours in and just beginning to pick up. Still running high 37 temps and feeling knackered but lot better than it has been.
Interestingly I found a reddit which has tons of people describing similar experiences, mainly under 50s.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusUK/comments/lp...
I understand the need to get people vaccinated but I feel that being more upfront about what looks to be common side effects, rather than "cold or mild flu like symptoms", is the way forward. I've had flu and what I've had over the last few days wasn't much like it at all.
I can see why A&E departments are getting flooded and 111 swamped with calls from people expecting something but getting a whole load of other stuff on top.
Interestingly I found a reddit which has tons of people describing similar experiences, mainly under 50s.
https://www.reddit.com/r/CoronavirusUK/comments/lp...
I understand the need to get people vaccinated but I feel that being more upfront about what looks to be common side effects, rather than "cold or mild flu like symptoms", is the way forward. I've had flu and what I've had over the last few days wasn't much like it at all.
I can see why A&E departments are getting flooded and 111 swamped with calls from people expecting something but getting a whole load of other stuff on top.
Had my second Pfizer yesterday, 55yo. First jab I had a sore arm at the injection point for about a day, second jab, absolutely no side effects at all.
But talking to people, that seems to be the way, Pfizer giving little or no side effects, OAZ from not much to feeling like you've been run over by a bus.
But talking to people, that seems to be the way, Pfizer giving little or no side effects, OAZ from not much to feeling like you've been run over by a bus.
My wife 48 has had her first and second pfizer. Dead arm on the first, wiped out and slept all of the following day after the second.
Me 45, AZ at 9am, stood on the touchline watching my son play football with uncontrolled shivers with everybody telling me I was a fanny at 7pm. Got home, temp at 38.5.
Took some pills, slept like a log, woke up the next day with a bit of a thick head and it wasn't a day for making big decisions/going training, but otherwise fine.
Me 45, AZ at 9am, stood on the touchline watching my son play football with uncontrolled shivers with everybody telling me I was a fanny at 7pm. Got home, temp at 38.5.
Took some pills, slept like a log, woke up the next day with a bit of a thick head and it wasn't a day for making big decisions/going training, but otherwise fine.
Herr Schnell said:
Had AZ at 10:30 on Thursday, by around 20:00 had a very foggy head, temperature and a bit achy.
Things got much worse overnight and spent yesterday feeling terrible.
Aching all over, joints very painful, boiling hot then freezing cold, so tired turning over in bed was an effort, resting heart rate above 110 and horrible confusion. Nausea and diaorrhea later in the day. Weird hot spots of tingling pain around the massage trigger points in my calves and trapezius muscles, like there was heated up popping candy instead of blood. Random stabbing pains all over, like really bad muscle cramp but deeper if that makes sense.
This morning still achy and tired but temp is normal and the rest seems to have gone.
I'm 45, regularly work out and cycle reasonable distances. So far as I know haven't had so much as a cold in the last 12 months let alone Covid.
Prior to having it I thought the under 60s thing was overblown but now not so sure. Especially given that the average age for CVST is 47 and research shows effacacy for AZ increases with age.
The news that AZ is the major driver for FTSE100 rebound and that CVST are increasing rapidly as the 40+ rollout begins makes me wonder if we are being given an inappropriate vaccine purely to bolster the markets.
Hardly a ‘driver for the FTSE 100 rebound’.....Things got much worse overnight and spent yesterday feeling terrible.
Aching all over, joints very painful, boiling hot then freezing cold, so tired turning over in bed was an effort, resting heart rate above 110 and horrible confusion. Nausea and diaorrhea later in the day. Weird hot spots of tingling pain around the massage trigger points in my calves and trapezius muscles, like there was heated up popping candy instead of blood. Random stabbing pains all over, like really bad muscle cramp but deeper if that makes sense.
This morning still achy and tired but temp is normal and the rest seems to have gone.
I'm 45, regularly work out and cycle reasonable distances. So far as I know haven't had so much as a cold in the last 12 months let alone Covid.
Prior to having it I thought the under 60s thing was overblown but now not so sure. Especially given that the average age for CVST is 47 and research shows effacacy for AZ increases with age.
The news that AZ is the major driver for FTSE100 rebound and that CVST are increasing rapidly as the 40+ rollout begins makes me wonder if we are being given an inappropriate vaccine purely to bolster the markets.
Bobtherallyfan said:
Herr Schnell said:
Had AZ at 10:30 on Thursday, by around 20:00 had a very foggy head, temperature and a bit achy.
Things got much worse overnight and spent yesterday feeling terrible.
Aching all over, joints very painful, boiling hot then freezing cold, so tired turning over in bed was an effort, resting heart rate above 110 and horrible confusion. Nausea and diaorrhea later in the day. Weird hot spots of tingling pain around the massage trigger points in my calves and trapezius muscles, like there was heated up popping candy instead of blood. Random stabbing pains all over, like really bad muscle cramp but deeper if that makes sense.
This morning still achy and tired but temp is normal and the rest seems to have gone.
I'm 45, regularly work out and cycle reasonable distances. So far as I know haven't had so much as a cold in the last 12 months let alone Covid.
Prior to having it I thought the under 60s thing was overblown but now not so sure. Especially given that the average age for CVST is 47 and research shows effacacy for AZ increases with age.
The news that AZ is the major driver for FTSE100 rebound and that CVST are increasing rapidly as the 40+ rollout begins makes me wonder if we are being given an inappropriate vaccine purely to bolster the markets.
Hardly a ‘driver for the FTSE 100 rebound’.....Things got much worse overnight and spent yesterday feeling terrible.
Aching all over, joints very painful, boiling hot then freezing cold, so tired turning over in bed was an effort, resting heart rate above 110 and horrible confusion. Nausea and diaorrhea later in the day. Weird hot spots of tingling pain around the massage trigger points in my calves and trapezius muscles, like there was heated up popping candy instead of blood. Random stabbing pains all over, like really bad muscle cramp but deeper if that makes sense.
This morning still achy and tired but temp is normal and the rest seems to have gone.
I'm 45, regularly work out and cycle reasonable distances. So far as I know haven't had so much as a cold in the last 12 months let alone Covid.
Prior to having it I thought the under 60s thing was overblown but now not so sure. Especially given that the average age for CVST is 47 and research shows effacacy for AZ increases with age.
The news that AZ is the major driver for FTSE100 rebound and that CVST are increasing rapidly as the 40+ rollout begins makes me wonder if we are being given an inappropriate vaccine purely to bolster the markets.
Herr Schnell said:
My apologies for believing that bastion of fake news, the Financial Times. I'll make sure to consult you good self prior to having an opinion in future.
I’d love to know how a large drop in a companies share price and a loss of over £20 billion in revenue directly leads to a rebound in the FTSE...I might have to change my investment strategy. Herr Schnell said:
Bobtherallyfan said:
Herr Schnell said:
Had AZ at 10:30 on Thursday, by around 20:00 had a very foggy head, temperature and a bit achy.
Things got much worse overnight and spent yesterday feeling terrible.
Aching all over, joints very painful, boiling hot then freezing cold, so tired turning over in bed was an effort, resting heart rate above 110 and horrible confusion. Nausea and diaorrhea later in the day. Weird hot spots of tingling pain around the massage trigger points in my calves and trapezius muscles, like there was heated up popping candy instead of blood. Random stabbing pains all over, like really bad muscle cramp but deeper if that makes sense.
This morning still achy and tired but temp is normal and the rest seems to have gone.
I'm 45, regularly work out and cycle reasonable distances. So far as I know haven't had so much as a cold in the last 12 months let alone Covid.
Prior to having it I thought the under 60s thing was overblown but now not so sure. Especially given that the average age for CVST is 47 and research shows effacacy for AZ increases with age.
The news that AZ is the major driver for FTSE100 rebound and that CVST are increasing rapidly as the 40+ rollout begins makes me wonder if we are being given an inappropriate vaccine purely to bolster the markets.
Hardly a ‘driver for the FTSE 100 rebound’.....Things got much worse overnight and spent yesterday feeling terrible.
Aching all over, joints very painful, boiling hot then freezing cold, so tired turning over in bed was an effort, resting heart rate above 110 and horrible confusion. Nausea and diaorrhea later in the day. Weird hot spots of tingling pain around the massage trigger points in my calves and trapezius muscles, like there was heated up popping candy instead of blood. Random stabbing pains all over, like really bad muscle cramp but deeper if that makes sense.
This morning still achy and tired but temp is normal and the rest seems to have gone.
I'm 45, regularly work out and cycle reasonable distances. So far as I know haven't had so much as a cold in the last 12 months let alone Covid.
Prior to having it I thought the under 60s thing was overblown but now not so sure. Especially given that the average age for CVST is 47 and research shows effacacy for AZ increases with age.
The news that AZ is the major driver for FTSE100 rebound and that CVST are increasing rapidly as the 40+ rollout begins makes me wonder if we are being given an inappropriate vaccine purely to bolster the markets.
I had the AZ at 7pm Friday - 48yrs old
Felt fine for the evening and following morning. Then it hit me. Aches and pains all over, every joint.
Went to bed and slept like a baby for 3 hrs .. woke up with a headache and 24hrs later I still feel like s
t.
I’m in two minds about having the second jab as I’m a bit of a loaner anyway.
Felt fine for the evening and following morning. Then it hit me. Aches and pains all over, every joint.
Went to bed and slept like a baby for 3 hrs .. woke up with a headache and 24hrs later I still feel like s
t. I’m in two minds about having the second jab as I’m a bit of a loaner anyway.
Day 6 after my first OAZ ( yesterday ). This is when the real issues have been reported thus far. Bang on cue, I was woken up with excruciating pain ( real eye watering sweat inducing pain ) on my left side, by my kidney. I took myself off to a walk in NHS place, and sat down, white as a sheet, shaking like a stting dog, and in some serious discomfort. Eventually I was seen, they asked pertinent questions, then advised taking paracetamol and seeing how it goes. I was told to return today if it hadn’t improved. The paracetamol trick did work, but I had to take loads to kill the sting off enough to get to sleep. I still had a dull ache this morning, and it had gone by this afternoon. Was it a clot? I don’t know, did it ( whatever it was ) hurt? yep. Have I ever experienced anything like it before? No. I’m not getting the second dose, screw that.
tting dog, and in some serious discomfort. Eventually I was seen, they asked pertinent questions, then advised taking paracetamol and seeing how it goes. I was told to return today if it hadn’t improved. The paracetamol trick did work, but I had to take loads to kill the sting off enough to get to sleep. I still had a dull ache this morning, and it had gone by this afternoon. Was it a clot? I don’t know, did it ( whatever it was ) hurt? yep. Have I ever experienced anything like it before? No. I’m not getting the second dose, screw that.Maximus_Meridius101 said:
Day 6 after my first OAZ ( yesterday ). This is when the real issues have been reported thus far. Bang on cue, I was woken up with excruciating pain ( real eye watering sweat inducing pain ) on my left side, by my kidney. I took myself off to a walk in NHS place, and sat down, white as a sheet, shaking like a stting dog, and in some serious discomfort. Eventually I was seen, they asked pertinent questions, then advised taking paracetamol and seeing how it goes. I was told to return today if it hadn’t improved. The paracetamol trick did work, but I had to take loads to kill the sting off enough to get to sleep. I still had a dull ache this morning, and it had gone by this afternoon. Was it a clot? I don’t know, did it ( whatever it was ) hurt? yep. Have I ever experienced anything like it before? No. I’m not getting the second dose, screw that.
That's terrible. I mean, what are the chances. Somebody who's seemingly come onto PH purely to argue against vaccines, and then goes on to publicly declare a really bad reaction and state that he's not going to have the second one.tting dog, and in some serious discomfort. Eventually I was seen, they asked pertinent questions, then advised taking paracetamol and seeing how it goes. I was told to return today if it hadn’t improved. The paracetamol trick did work, but I had to take loads to kill the sting off enough to get to sleep. I still had a dull ache this morning, and it had gone by this afternoon. Was it a clot? I don’t know, did it ( whatever it was ) hurt? yep. Have I ever experienced anything like it before? No. I’m not getting the second dose, screw that.I don't know, maybe you're absolutely genuine and just unlucky. Maybe.
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