Does anyone know an Anti Covid vaxxer?

Does anyone know an Anti Covid vaxxer?

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survivalist

5,710 posts

191 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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V6 Pushfit said:
survivalist said:
V6 Pushfit said:
Today’s news:

The Delta variant... fly under the radar and run rampant among younger, partially unvaccinated people :

https://youtu.be/OHBua3aXQ7c
Not really an issue if those at risk of hospitalisation and death have been vaccinated, surely?
I don’t want to be laid up feeling rough and off work, and don’t know if I’m susceptible or at risk of pegging it, do you?
I’m not concerned, pretty likely to have had it last year. Feeling rough for a few days a year is just part of life as far as I’m concerned.

Now the vast majority of the older and vulnerable have protection from serious illness and death, the constant testing to find asymptomatic ‘cases’ is just stoking fear and hysteria.

Covid isn’t going away, so a sensible approach that focuses on developing protection for those at risk in the form of booster vaccines etc and allow those at virtually zero risk to acquire it naturally.

In terms of the vaccines, I’d agree that the risk of long term side effects is small, but for a huge number of people the risk of getting and becoming seriously ill from covid is very small as well. So while I’ve had my first vaccination, I completely understand and support people deciding not to get vaccinated.

TBH the only reason I decided to be vaccinated is because I can see a lack of vaccination limiting options such as travel. While this feels somewhat coercive to me, given that I’m personally not concerned about covid,
I’m not that concerned about the vaccine either.

Drew106

1,402 posts

146 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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I had my vaccine yesterday evening.

I'm 33. Live in the countryside. Work from home. Don't see very many people apart from a few close friends and family.

I most likely didn't really need the vaccine for my own safety. It's unlikely I'll get seriously ill if I catch it, but I don't think that's a good enough reason not to get it. The risks to me are very low, the benefits to everyone, if as many people as possible are vaccinated, are potentially very big.

Any doctors I've spoken to have not given me any reason to be concerned about getting the vaccine.



.. I do have quite a sore arm though! and the sudden desire to buy Microsoft products... confused

paulguitar

23,671 posts

114 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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Drew106 said:
and the sudden desire to buy Microsoft products... confused
Get immediate help!

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 12th June 2021
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Drew106 said:
I'm 33. Live in the countryside. Work from home. Don't see very many people apart from a few close friends and family.

I most likely didn't really need the vaccine for my own safety. It's unlikely I'll get seriously ill if I catch it, but I don't think that's a good enough reason not to get it. The risks to me are very low, the benefits to everyone, if as many people as possible are vaccinated, are potentially very big.

Any doctors I've spoken to have not given me any reason to be concerned about getting the vaccine.
Pretty much the same viewpoint as my sons who are 29-33. They and all their mates have booked now, they just don’t get this whole anti-vax thing.

sevensfun

730 posts

37 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Drew106 said:
I had my vaccine yesterday evening.

I'm 33. Live in the countryside. Work from home. Don't see very many people apart from a few close friends and family.

I most likely didn't really need the vaccine for my own safety. It's unlikely I'll get seriously ill if I catch it, but I don't think that's a good enough reason not to get it. The risks to me are very low, the benefits to everyone, if as many people as possible are vaccinated, are potentially very big.

Any doctors I've spoken to have not given me any reason to be concerned about getting the vaccine.



.. I do have quite a sore arm though! and the sudden desire to buy Microsoft products... confused
Erm....have you seen anything from The g7 summit. They don’t believe it. They’re trolling us.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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sevensfun said:
Erm....have you seen anything from The g7 summit. They don’t believe it. They’re trolling us.
What is “it”?

Oakey

27,595 posts

217 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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V6 Pushfit said:
98elise said:
Scabutz said:
98elise said:
monkfish1 said:
V6 Pushfit said:
survivalist said:
V6 Pushfit said:
monkfish1 said:
V6 Pushfit said:
monkfish1 said:
Is the MHRA one of your "leading independant bodies"? The one in reciept of funding from Bill Gates? You dont think that might just compromise it just a teeny bit.
Don’t you just love your conspiracies
Hardly a conspiracy. Its on the governments own website.
I doubt very much it’s on the Government website but I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that it’s not your own bizarre conspiracy if you could post a link to a page that says the MHRA is compromised due to funding by Bill Gates.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/freedom-of-information-responses-from-the-mhra-week-commencing-4-january-2021/freedom-of-information-request-on-emails-with-bill-melinda-gates-foundation-foi-20-534

Whether it means the MHRA is compromised is another discussion.

What I would find much more interesting is what percentage of the overall cost of running the MHRA is funded by similar contributors and the pharmaceutical industry.
It’s doesn’t say that the MHRA is compromised, so it must be one of Monkfish1’s misleading conspiracy theories.
Its hardly going to admit to being compromised is it?

Do you really think someone donates money to an organisation without getting something in return? Really? Id love to be that naive!
So what do YOU think one of the world richest men is getting out of it?
Massive tax break
Smugness for donating his wealth to good causes
Fulfilling a sense of moral duty

Just because he is rich, doesn't mean he is evil and certainly doesn't mean he is bribing a health regulatory to push is vaccines and microchips.

Rich people cant win. Get st for making a load of money, then get a load of different shti when they decide to give it to charity for causes they believe in
What's the point of a tax break on money you give away? Cut out the middle man and stop giving it away.

Also it might surprise you but money isn't a big motivator for very rich people. They've already made more then they can ever spend and have the option to do whatever they want to do, whenever they want to do it.
Bang-on there. Gates isn’t interested in hidden motives he just wants to use his wealth to generate good. I don’t understand why people don’t get this.
I'm pretty sure monkfish is the poster who said I must have been "desperate for the money" when I said I'd taken part in a vaccine trial and when I said I wasn't paid and that I volunteered he called me an idiot. I think that sums up the mindset of some people, they judge everyone by their own standards.

smn159

12,766 posts

218 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Speaking of which, I had a look in on the Covid 'disease better than cure' thread yesterday.

Jesus wept, they are all full on conspiracy-bks-swallowed-whole mental cases eek

Interestingly it seems to be largely the same lot who are similarly exercised about the EU / Bill Gates / Climate change / The great reset / marxism / The BBC / lefties and so forth

I honestly wonder how people with that sort of paranoid mindset function on a day to day basis.

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

171 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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smn159 said:
Speaking of which, I had a look in on the Covid 'disease better than cure' thread yesterday.

Jesus wept, they are all full on conspiracy-bks-swallowed-whole mental cases eek

Interestingly it seems to be largely the same lot who are similarly exercised about the EU / Bill Gates / Climate change / The great reset / marxism / The BBC / lefties and so forth

I honestly wonder how people with that sort of paranoid mindset function on a day to day basis.
Ahh right.

So mental cases for getting very pressured around business, their children's lives (schooling,end of year events) and when this really ends.

It's a good look to call people "Mental cases" when a big thing with this lockdown is the way it's affecting their mental health.

By all means though. Conflate someone's worries over their events business as them freaking out over 5g towers.


smn159

12,766 posts

218 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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MrBrightSi said:
Ahh right.

So mental cases for getting very pressured around business, their children's lives (schooling,end of year events) and when this really ends.

It's a good look to call people "Mental cases" when a big thing with this lockdown is the way it's affecting their mental health.

By all means though. Conflate someone's worries over their events business as them freaking out over 5g towers.
I was thinking more of the bloke who thought that we were being poisoned by the government through PCR tests, or the one who said that he'd throw his coffee at the waitress if she asked for confirmation that he's checked into her cafe, but it seems to have struck a chord anyway

Harrison Bergeron

5,444 posts

223 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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smn159 said:
Speaking of which, I had a look in on the Covid 'disease better than cure' thread yesterday.

Jesus wept, they are all full on conspiracy-bks-swallowed-whole mental cases eek

Interestingly it seems to be largely the same lot who are similarly exercised about the EU / Bill Gates / Climate change / The great reset / marxism / The BBC / lefties and so forth

I honestly wonder how people with that sort of paranoid mindset function on a day to day basis.
Yes elysium,tonker,eddie, vonuber, isaldiri et al are posting 5G conspiracy stuff.

By the same logic this thread and all the other zero covid ones are full of powerfully built blimps who haven’t left the house for 18months and wear 5 masks on the way to the fridge.

smn159

12,766 posts

218 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Harrison Bergeron said:
smn159 said:
Speaking of which, I had a look in on the Covid 'disease better than cure' thread yesterday.

Jesus wept, they are all full on conspiracy-bks-swallowed-whole mental cases eek

Interestingly it seems to be largely the same lot who are similarly exercised about the EU / Bill Gates / Climate change / The great reset / marxism / The BBC / lefties and so forth

I honestly wonder how people with that sort of paranoid mindset function on a day to day basis.
Yes elysium,tonker,eddie, vonuber, isaldiri et al are posting 5G conspiracy stuff.

By the same logic this thread and all the other zero covid ones are full of powerfully built blimps who haven’t left the house for 18months and wear 5 masks on the way to the fridge.
How about the one today suggesting that Christian Ericsson's collapse may be linked to a recent vaccination?

It's comedy gold

It's entirely legitimate to question the lockdown, but it does seem to attract the nutters with their conspiracy horse st

Harrison Bergeron

5,444 posts

223 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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smn159 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
smn159 said:
Speaking of which, I had a look in on the Covid 'disease better than cure' thread yesterday.

Jesus wept, they are all full on conspiracy-bks-swallowed-whole mental cases eek

Interestingly it seems to be largely the same lot who are similarly exercised about the EU / Bill Gates / Climate change / The great reset / marxism / The BBC / lefties and so forth

I honestly wonder how people with that sort of paranoid mindset function on a day to day basis.
Yes elysium,tonker,eddie, vonuber, isaldiri et al are posting 5G conspiracy stuff.

By the same logic this thread and all the other zero covid ones are full of powerfully built blimps who haven’t left the house for 18months and wear 5 masks on the way to the fridge.
How about the one today suggesting that Christian Ericsson's collapse may be linked to a recent vaccination?

It's comedy gold

It's entirely legitimate to question the lockdown, but it does seem to attract the nutters with their conspiracy horse st
But you said all. All posters.
That thread seems to be only one on here where you can question the narrative so naturally it does attract some nutters but it also attracts the people above and more.
Probably why it's running to 12 volumes but the "hey guyz jhust go n get da Jab" ones fizzle out.

Just ignore the horse st , like I ignore the I'm-alright-jack tossers on their boats or in their massive estates.

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

171 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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smn159 said:
MrBrightSi said:
Ahh right.

So mental cases for getting very pressured around business, their children's lives (schooling,end of year events) and when this really ends.

It's a good look to call people "Mental cases" when a big thing with this lockdown is the way it's affecting their mental health.

By all means though. Conflate someone's worries over their events business as them freaking out over 5g towers.
I was thinking more of the bloke who thought that we were being poisoned by the government through PCR tests, or the one who said that he'd throw his coffee at the waitress if she asked for confirmation that he's checked into her cafe, but it seems to have struck a chord anyway
"Jesus wept, they are all full on conspiracy-bks-swallowed-whole mental cases"

You're trying to avoid what you said, just like coffee bad-ass and footballer speculator.

You're completely invalidating the toll taken on people who've had more costs to pay than you obviously. For all this "Social responsibility" and "For the greater good" you certainly don't seem to give a st about those suffering anything other than Covid, thats why it's called "Cure worse than the disease." For certain posters in that thread, it certainly looks to be true.


smn159

12,766 posts

218 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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MrBrightSi said:
"Jesus wept, they are all full on conspiracy-bks-swallowed-whole mental cases"

You're trying to avoid what you said, just like coffee bad-ass and footballer speculator.

You're completely invalidating the toll taken on people who've had more costs to pay than you obviously. For all this "Social responsibility" and "For the greater good" you certainly don't seem to give a st about those suffering anything other than Covid, thats why it's called "Cure worse than the disease." For certain posters in that thread, it certainly looks to be true.
Go and read it. At the milder end it seems to be populated by those who think that the Govt is imposing lockdowns to try and control them. To what end is not clear - maybe to impose some sort of anti-Gammon agenda?

Presumably you agree with them?

MrBrightSi

2,912 posts

171 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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smn159 said:
MrBrightSi said:
"Jesus wept, they are all full on conspiracy-bks-swallowed-whole mental cases"

You're trying to avoid what you said, just like coffee bad-ass and footballer speculator.

You're completely invalidating the toll taken on people who've had more costs to pay than you obviously. For all this "Social responsibility" and "For the greater good" you certainly don't seem to give a st about those suffering anything other than Covid, thats why it's called "Cure worse than the disease." For certain posters in that thread, it certainly looks to be true.
Go and read it. At the milder end it seems to be populated by those who think that the Govt is imposing lockdowns to try and control them. To what end is not clear - maybe to impose some sort of anti-Gammon agenda?

Presumably you agree with them?
Dire pal.

Mods have already cleaned house in the other threads because of this stupid phrase and now you're casting your rod out in this thread.

Brave Fart

5,766 posts

112 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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smn159 said:
Speaking of which, I had a look in on the Covid 'disease better than cure' thread yesterday.

Jesus wept, they are all full on conspiracy-bks-swallowed-whole mental caseseek

Interestingly it seems to be largely the same lot who are similarly exercised about the EU / Bill Gates / Climate change / The great reset / marxism / The BBC / lefties and so forth

I honestly wonder how people with that sort of paranoid mindset function on a day to day basis.
Well, as a regular contributor on that thread I have to disagree. There are a few rather nutty posts, true, but they are in the minority. Most posts, including mine of course wink are reasonable and civilised with not a hint of tinfoil. There are also a number of snarky, sneering posts from people including you, which everyone just ignores. On the whole it's a very good thread, quite educational and informative.
TLDR: you're wrong.



isaldiri

18,677 posts

169 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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Brave Fart said:
Well, as a regular contributor on that thread I have to disagree. There are a few rather nutty posts, true, but they are in the minority. Most posts, including mine of course wink are reasonable and civilised with not a hint of tinfoil. There are also a number of snarky, sneering posts from people including you, which everyone just ignores. On the whole it's a very good thread, quite educational and informative.
TLDR: you're wrong.
Oh cmon you should know by now that anyone who doesn't absolutely sign up to the belief that it isn't necessarily for everyone, their kids and maybe their cat to be jabbed up and might dare to think the government's coercive messaging is unnecessary and divisive is a fully paid up Icke/lizard/5g type believer....... been rather useful for those who wish to simply paint anyone who might disagree as part of the most extreme end to not have to answer anything they might point out that might just be hard to justify....

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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isaldiri said:
Oh cmon you should know by now that anyone who doesn't absolutely sign up to the belief that it isn't necessarily for everyone, their kids and maybe their cat to be jabbed up and might dare to think the government's coercive messaging is unnecessary and divisive is a fully paid up Icke/lizard/5g type believer....... been rather useful for those who wish to simply paint anyone who might disagree as part of the most extreme end to not have to answer anything they might point out that might just be hard to justify....
I don’t think anyone regards it as binary, and the government haven’t been coercive, unnecessary or divisive at all. It’s just a shame that the dissenters come up with reasons to justify their views that don’t stack up so it’s hardly surprising they get labelled as nutters.

ruggedscotty

5,638 posts

210 months

Sunday 13th June 2021
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smn159 said:
Speaking of which, I had a look in on the Covid 'disease better than cure' thread yesterday.

Jesus wept, they are all full on conspiracy-bks-swallowed-whole mental cases eek

Interestingly it seems to be largely the same lot who are similarly exercised about the EU / Bill Gates / Climate change / The great reset / marxism / The BBC / lefties and so forth

I honestly wonder how people with that sort of paranoid mindset function on a day to day basis.
Its bad..

Looks like its spreading...

Infected this thread aswell now...

were all doomed...