Does anyone know an Anti Covid vaxxer?

[anonymous-user]

ThrottleLine30 said:

V6 Pushfit said:

What has convinced you not to have it?

To be honest I've never been a fan of medicine as a whole. Extremely rare that I even take painkillers for example.

Not something I can really explain - I just don't believe in it.

No doubt you’ve considered the options and it’s your own way forward so fine. May be a bit tricky if a pub/club/airline need to see a vax card though.

If we don’t all die or grow and extra arm from having the vax would you have one say next year?

[anonymous-user]

gd said:

105.4 said:

Define ‘Covid anti-vaxxer’?

I suspect that the seriousness of Coronavirus has been exaggerated to a degree and I’m in no rush to get vaccinated, preferring instead to wait as long as possible to see what, if any, long term health implications there are.

Whether that makes me cynical, cautious, prudent or just a plain old nutter is a matter of personal opinion I guess.

This, 100%.

Is there an option to delay it - I thought it’s a letter from the NHS giving a date and away you go?

[105.4]

V6 Pushfit said:

gd said:

105.4 said:

Define ‘Covid anti-vaxxer’?

I suspect that the seriousness of Coronavirus has been exaggerated to a degree and I’m in no rush to get vaccinated, preferring instead to wait as long as possible to see what, if any, long term health implications there are.

Whether that makes me cynical, cautious, prudent or just a plain old nutter is a matter of personal opinion I guess.

This, 100%.

Is there an option to delay it - I thought it’s a letter from the NHS giving a date and away you go?

I’ve no idea tbh. I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it. And if I don’t attend the vaccine appointment, what are they going to do, throw me in prison indefinitely until I do have it ? This isn’t Germany 2021.

[Lily the Pink]

I started off as a vacc-sceptic (neither anti- nor pro-), primarily because of the rushed development timescale. I resolved that I would delay being jabbed unless and until I needed it for travel or access to services.
On learning that the rapidity of development was primarily due to running steps in parallel I changed my mind and decided to have the jab when offered - which turned out to be 8 days ago. I didn't feel the jab and suffered no side-effects.
So I am now of the opinion that everyone should be encouraged to have it (other than those who should not do so for medical reasons). But I am not in favour of compulsion or any sort of virtue-signalling "vaccine passport".

[anonymous-user]

yes my mate, doesn't wear a mask. I have zero issue with it, his choice, i'm not hysterical thinking he will kill people becuase of his choices.

i think CV19 in the UK has just highlighted the massive poverty gap, the high level of obesity all paper over and now a vaccine is the cure, when these problems are deep rooted and won't be solved overnight.

[Pothole]

Red9zero said:

Prof Prolapse said:

Educated guess would be they are confident of immunity due to their high levels of exposure, and can't take time off for the harmless (but unpleasant) side effects of the vaccine.

I had the Pfizer vaccine on Tuesday and the only side effect I have had is a slightly sore arm. No worse than the normal flu jab though and definitely not worth taking time off work.

That's nice for you. For YOU. Others are affected differently.

[Ortega56]

I had the phizer jab about a month ago - a bit of an achy arm the next day, but nowt major. My partner has the jab last week - same outcome. I don't personally know of anyone who is refusing the jab for whatever reason - 100% take up rate afaik.

However, I have American siblings who work in healthcare. They've been jabbed, and are happy to have been. Whereas I'm reporting a 100% take-up rate with my colleagues/friends, they're reporting a 60 - 70% take-up.

I can't begin to determine the difference. I do recall that the vaccine take up of polio back in the 50s/60s was much lower in the US compared to the UK - maybe it's a mindset thing?

I'm now (semi) looking forward to getting some summer sun. I will only fly with airlines who can ensure all customers can show proof of vaccination. I think, and it seems so with a growing number of travel operators and/or countries, that no vax, no travel.

I'm ducking already - 'what about my 'uman rights gov'?!!

[anonymous-user]

Not having the vaccine is one of the few personal choices left to me.

To avoid conflict with the more fighty and shouty mask evangelists, I no longer go anywhere.

This will only get worse when vaccine passports become mandatory. It will start small, but people will clamour for more and more restrictions:

• you'll only need a vaccine passport to go on holiday / abroad
• only to leave your local region
• only to go into a pub / restaurant / shop
• only indoors
• only indoors and outdoors
• everywhere - subject to spot checks, and off to the special camp if you can't provide your papers on demand

Maybe, to save time, you'll get to wear a nlce party badge to show you are vaccinated. Perhaps you can have special salute to help identify you to other zealots.

[105.4]

Difficult said:

105.4 said:

And if I don’t attend the vaccine appointment, what are they going to do, throw me in prison indefinitely until I do have it ?

You will be on a list. You'll probably need to go to a special camp for re-education and for the good of society. When they do come for you, I suspect there will be a few from this thread who will driving the wagons and helping you into the showers.

So basically exactly the same as what they are doing in such liberal countries as Germany and Canada at the moment.

[anonymous-user]

Ortega56 said:

I will only fly with airlines who can ensure all customers can show proof of vaccination. I think, and it seems so with a growing number of travel operators and/or countries, that no vax, no travel.

You are at stage one on my list above. But how long before you won't go to work until your employer guarantees all other employees are vaccinated?

And soon you'll be insisting that everyone in a shop / restaurant / street / town / region has been vaccinated or you won't go there. You and millions of others.

At what point do you stop being scared?

[GregK2]

Seems those that choose not to have the vaccine are perfectly happy for those that do choose to have it.
Whereas those that choose to have it get a bit frothy at those that choose not to. Interesting.

[105.4]

GregK2 said:

Seems those that choose not to have the vaccine are perfectly happy for those that do choose to have it.
Whereas those that choose to have it get a bit frothy at those that choose not to. Interesting.

It all seems a tad authoritarian to me.

[anonymous-user]

GregK2 said:

Seems those that choose not to have the vaccine are perfectly happy for those that do choose to have it.
Whereas those that choose to have it get a bit frothy at those that choose not to. Interesting.

Exactly. I have no problem with anyone wearing a pointless mask if it helps get them through the fear. Same for the vaccine - have it if you want to if and you think it will help you. It might save your life. But please don't start insisting everyone should be forced to be vaccinated or be shunned from normal society if they refuse to agree with you. That only leads to voting in the type of government that will remove such people from the general population - one way or another. For their own good, and the good of society, of course. I suspect we might already have a government like that already. Please don't encourage them - I don't have room for an Anne Frank type cupboard.

[Lily the Pink]

Ortega56 said:

I will only fly with airlines who can ensure all customers can show proof of vaccination.

Why ? Do you not have confidence in your vaccination ? Are you going to insist that children, or anyone who cannot have the vaccine, cannot travel ?

For me, if airlines are going to act as police i would rather they insisted on a recent negative test - for all passengers (and crew of course), regardless of their vaccination status.

P.S. I have had the jab, and have confidence in it.

[AW111]

Difficult said:

105.4 said:

And if I don’t attend the vaccine appointment, what are they going to do, throw me in prison indefinitely until I do have it ?

You will be on a list. You'll probably need to go to a special camp for re-education and for the good of society. When they do come for you, I suspect there will be a few from this thread who will driving the wagons and helping you into the showers.

fking Godwin.
Repeated three times in three posts.

Being vaccinated is just a bit different from being gassed to death you plonker.

[Brainpox]

I think a lot of people focus on the death rate when considering whether or not to have the vaccine. It's hardly ebola.

The real problem imo is long COVID. The potential for months of fatigue and 'brain fog' is what pushed me to have it. Even if you have a mild illness, the post viral effects can be severe. It wouldn't be great for mental health.

I had the Pfizer vaccine and had 8 hours of muscle aches with it. It didn't feel like a bad trade. I get the second dose in a fortnight.

Edited by Brainpox on Saturday 27th February 23:34

[anonymous-user]

AW111 said:

fking Godwin.
Repeated three times in three posts.

Being vaccinated is just a bit different from being gassed to death you plonker.

Ah, Ok. Maybe you don't want me exterminated. At least not right now. But I take it you don't have any problem with someone rounding me up and taking me in for some unwanted medical experimentation? That's how it starts.

[McFsC]

I'm 28 and I know a handful of people who think the response has been appropriate. That includes work, sports teams, school/social friends and family...

Once it is in community care hospitals and car homes is stopping people playing football on a Saturday or going to the gym really saving lives in the long term? I have not once in the last 6 months at least asked someone to meet up with me and they've declined for Covid reasons. House parties, family meals, weekends wild camping etc... It includes a multitude of people from different generations and backgrounds.

[MitchT]

shost said:

Really curious to see is there anyone on this forum who thinks its all a hoax or over response or does anyone know someone well. What has been their logic? Have they changed their mind or doubled down?

My OH isn't an anti-vaxxer in general but she doesn't trust the Covid vaccine. She says it's not actually a vaccine, it's an "RNA, something or other and it messes with your DNA blah, blah, blah..." and I've usually nodded off by this point. Apparently the OAZ vaccine is made from chimp st, the Pfizer one is made from moth st... and she's fixated on the inclusion of polyethylene glycol which doesn't actually need to be in it... according to her. Obviously it's just been included to make sure big pharma make more money. The amount of time she spends on Google researching all the ingredients and their deadly effects and then reciting it all to me in epic detail makes my head hurt. I was saying to my parents the last time I spoke to them that it's starting to make me wish I was with one of those ditzy girls whose greatest concern is that her fingernails and toenails are painted the same shade of pink!

[AW111]

Difficult said:

AW111 said:

fking Godwin.
Repeated three times in three posts.

Being vaccinated is just a bit different from being gassed to death you plonker.

Ah, Ok. Maybe you don't want me exterminated. At least not right now. But I take it you don't have any problem with someone rounding me up and taking me in for some unwanted medical experimentation? That's how it starts.

Melodramatic fool.