Becoming deliberately less bulky in middle age.

Becoming deliberately less bulky in middle age.

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Louis Balfour

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Sunday 28th March 2021
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didelydoo said:
Your muscle mass will lessen with age, don’t actively try and get rid of it unless you have a good reason.

If you want rid of a stone of muscle- drop your protein, and don’t lift, and eat less. Good knows why you’d want to do that though.
I want to carry less bulk about.

Currently I can lose some fat and am doing so.

But I am looking a ways of staying strong enough going forwards without being as stocky as I was. I might look at yoga and start cycling again.




Louis Balfour

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Sunday 28th March 2021
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MC Bodge said:
Louis Balfour said:
Not really. I am in my mid 50s and you start to lose subcutaneous fat above mid-40s. At 13%bf I looked gaunt.
Where do you think that your weight is then?
Back then, legs, glutes, back and shoulders.

Today, some of the above plus some lard.

popeyewhite

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120 months

Sunday 28th March 2021
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Louis Balfour said:
MC Bodge said:
Louis Balfour said:
This thread has drifted away from what I was banging on about in my OP. My fault, I probably wasn't awfully clear.

My query wasn't about staying lean in middle age, it was staying lean whilst being less muscly. Basically.

I would rather be 13 stone and lean than 14 stone and lean. But my body seems to want to be 14 stone. It is almost as though training when I was younger permanently changed the roadmap my body wants to follow when I train.
Are you unusually heavily muscled?

A body is made up of bones, muscles, cartilage, collagen, fat etc. It's the same for everybody.

It seems unusual to have looked gaunt at 13st and 5ft 9.5
Not really. I am in my mid 50s and you start to lose subcutaneous fat above mid-40s. At 13%bf I looked gaunt.
The fat hasn't disappeared, it's just moved somewhere else biggrin If you want to stay lean then keep doing endurance based exercise - higher reps weights and long slow runs. As DD says, watch your diet.

Louis Balfour

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Sunday 28th March 2021
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popeyewhite said:
Louis Balfour said:
MC Bodge said:
Louis Balfour said:
This thread has drifted away from what I was banging on about in my OP. My fault, I probably wasn't awfully clear.

My query wasn't about staying lean in middle age, it was staying lean whilst being less muscly. Basically.

I would rather be 13 stone and lean than 14 stone and lean. But my body seems to want to be 14 stone. It is almost as though training when I was younger permanently changed the roadmap my body wants to follow when I train.
Are you unusually heavily muscled?

A body is made up of bones, muscles, cartilage, collagen, fat etc. It's the same for everybody.

It seems unusual to have looked gaunt at 13st and 5ft 9.5
Not really. I am in my mid 50s and you start to lose subcutaneous fat above mid-40s. At 13%bf I looked gaunt.
The fat hasn't disappeared, it's just moved somewhere else biggrin If you want to stay lean then keep doing endurance based exercise - higher reps weights and long slow runs. As DD says, watch your diet.
A runs, I remember them. Happy days. I can't do them any more unfortunately.

mcelliott

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181 months

Sunday 28th March 2021
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Never thought I'd see the day where a 50 something wants to carry less muscle.

Louis Balfour

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mcelliott said:
Never thought I'd see the day where a 50 something wants to carry less muscle.
An erstwhile friend of mine died on his 60th birthday, when I was fifty. He could squat, deadlift and bench me into the weeds. But in my opinion he looked weird.


popeyewhite

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Sunday 28th March 2021
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Louis Balfour said:
An erstwhile friend of mine died on his 60th birthday, when I was fifty. He could squat, deadlift and bench me into the weeds. But in my opinion he looked weird.
He was carrying too much muscle?

numtumfutunch

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138 months

Sunday 28th March 2021
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mcelliott said:
Never thought I'd see the day where a 50 something wants to carry less muscle.

Aren't you a cyclist?

Louis Balfour

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Sunday 28th March 2021
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popeyewhite said:
Louis Balfour said:
An erstwhile friend of mine died on his 60th birthday, when I was fifty. He could squat, deadlift and bench me into the weeds. But in my opinion he looked weird.
He was carrying too much muscle?
In my opinion yes. That wasn't what killed him, however. Or not directly anyway.

Louis Balfour

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Sunday 28th March 2021
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numtumfutunch said:
mcelliott said:
Never thought I'd see the day where a 50 something wants to carry less muscle.

Aren't you a cyclist?
Was. May be again.

I am off into the loft to dig out my SPD shoes later this morning actually. Then I plan to terrorise one of my 90s MTBs that was built for me when I was 12 stone.



numtumfutunch

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Sunday 28th March 2021
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Life long runner and cyclist here broadly same age as you OP

Sorry if the following point has already been made but 14 pages is a lot to effectively skim

My own opinion is that you eventually look like the sport you train for

Apart from two periods I’ve generally only ever done cardio and consequently am lean and weedy, which is fine because I love riding my bike up hills and mountains

In my 30s I joined a gym and bulked up, it took a while however I have a jacket I bought at the time which looks ridiculously huge if I wear it now. On stopping the weights I gradually lost my powerfully built physique

Similarly when the kids were little we did absolutely no exercise and stepped up the booze and takeaways with pretty good results in terms of becoming county level fat couch potatoes

Cheers, and good luck

popeyewhite

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Sunday 28th March 2021
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Louis Balfour said:
In my opinion yes. That wasn't what killed him, however. Or not directly anyway.
Just a comment - I have noticed that when men get to a certain age their weight training needs to be spot on and rather than just aim for heavy lifts there might be a shift in focus towards a more cosmetic type of lifting. A few 'older' Youtubers (not the old pros) now seem to possess saggy pecs and belly. Maybe it's just me... .

Louis Balfour

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Sunday 28th March 2021
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popeyewhite said:
Louis Balfour said:
In my opinion yes. That wasn't what killed him, however. Or not directly anyway.
Just a comment - I have noticed that when men get to a certain age their weight training needs to be spot on and rather than just aim for heavy lifts there might be a shift in focus towards a more cosmetic type of lifting. A few 'older' Youtubers (not the old pros) now seem to possess saggy pecs and belly. Maybe it's just me... .
Cosmetic type of lifting. Food for thought.

The chap I referred to used to buy huge jeans to accommodate his thighs and needed to pull them in at the waist. Fine if you're a 20 year old bodybuilder, but not so much on a 60 year old gent in my opinion.

Even when I used to train a lot I was never as big as him. But I didn't like myself in a suit - I looked like a doorman.

It has been 3 years since I have trained hard, but I am now training regularly again albeit with the limitations of having no proper gym. I think I might major on endurance stuff and perhaps start yoga. HIIT a couple of times per week.


Edited by Louis Balfour on Sunday 28th March 12:22

mcelliott

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Sunday 28th March 2021
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numtumfutunch said:
mcelliott said:
Never thought I'd see the day where a 50 something wants to carry less muscle.

Aren't you a cyclist?
Yes and?

numtumfutunch

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138 months

Sunday 28th March 2021
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mcelliott said:
numtumfutunch said:
mcelliott said:
Never thought I'd see the day where a 50 something wants to carry less muscle.

Aren't you a cyclist?
Yes and?
And most cyclists I know including myself would be happy with iess muscle mass especially on the Alpe

Although those pics of Wiggo when he rode for Garmin were somewhat skeletal

mcelliott

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181 months

Sunday 28th March 2021
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numtumfutunch said:
mcelliott said:
numtumfutunch said:
mcelliott said:
Never thought I'd see the day where a 50 something wants to carry less muscle.

Aren't you a cyclist?
Yes and?
And most cyclists I know including myself would be happy with iess muscle mass especially on the Alpe

Although those pics of Wiggo when he rode for Garmin were somewhat skeletal
Thats true, but I like having a balance of being muscular and being fast on the bike, being nearly 50 I want to carry as much muscle on my frame as possible going into old age, the benefits are well documented, and of course keeping the bike going to keep the cv health in top shape.

jontysafe

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178 months

Sunday 28th March 2021
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anonymous said:
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Sounds like you need a new mate not a new sport 😂 kidding