Becoming deliberately less bulky in middle age.

[Anonymous-poster]

ORD said:

Stopping lifting will just make you fat. You could lift 5 times a week and lose 2kg per week. Ask any bodybuilder!

Would be very difficult if not in possible to sustain 2kg fat loss even for a few weeks!

[PugwasHDJ80]

ORD said:

Louis Balfour said:

It really isn't. There is more to it. As I said previously, I think it is a sort of hysteresis.

But you can call me a unicorn if you want. If I can call you Dorothy.

:-) Honestly, I’ve read thousands of pages and listened to probably hundreds of hours of high quality content on this stuff. Metabolic differences are very small. You will lose weight fast if you reduce your daily intake by 200-500 calories.

I can promise you i wont.





I'd still be eating 200 calories too many, Now whe're's that Big Mac....

[Anonymous-poster]

PugwasHDJ80 said:

ORD said:

Louis Balfour said:

It really isn't. There is more to it. As I said previously, I think it is a sort of hysteresis.

But you can call me a unicorn if you want. If I can call you Dorothy.

:-) Honestly, I’ve read thousands of pages and listened to probably hundreds of hours of high quality content on this stuff. Metabolic differences are very small. You will lose weight fast if you reduce your daily intake by 200-500 calories.

I can promise you i wont.





I'd still be eating 200 calories too many, Now whe're's that Big Mac....

Sick of fish suppers?

[PugwasHDJ80]

Anonymous-poster said:

PugwasHDJ80 said:

ORD said:

Louis Balfour said:

It really isn't. There is more to it. As I said previously, I think it is a sort of hysteresis.

But you can call me a unicorn if you want. If I can call you Dorothy.

:-) Honestly, I’ve read thousands of pages and listened to probably hundreds of hours of high quality content on this stuff. Metabolic differences are very small. You will lose weight fast if you reduce your daily intake by 200-500 calories.

I can promise you i wont.





I'd still be eating 200 calories too many, Now whe're's that Big Mac....

Sick of fish suppers?

WHAT, don't be ridiculous, that's the main course.

What a dumbass question

[popeyewhite]

gregs656 said:

That is what the studies show. I think someone mentioned the research earlier in this thread.

No. The studies show that once adaptation has taken place the body will attain a metabolism similar to that before the exercise/lifestyle was started.

[popeyewhite]

Louis Balfour said:

Define overweight.

Carrying enough excess fat mass that markers of health are changed negatively. Ie, a rise in blood pressure, irregular and unsatisfactory sleep patterns, lack of sex drive, lack of fitness. These can then lead to...well, you know what.

[ORD]

Anonymous-poster said:

Would be very difficult if not in possible to sustain 2kg fat loss even for a few weeks!

If you’re not super fat to start with, sure. But if you’re not super fat, you won’t need to lose 2kg per week for more than a few weeks!

[anonymous-user]

456mgt said:

... it's what you put in your gob that matters more. ...

Definitely this in my case. Eating food was a chore until I was well into my 30's, then I changed into a glutten, a hard drinking glutten in fact. I became fat. Didn't like it. Tried many different diets that worked for a time and then didn't. I had to come to the realisation that I couldn't eat continuously and the wrong stuff from 0700-2300hrs all day every day.

Some people say eat 3 meals of 600 cals each per day to lose/maintain weight. For me it works better if I have 200 cals breakfast (porridge say), 300 cals lunch (hard boiled eggs or packet noodles/pasta etc) then a bigger dinner of say 700 cals. Throw in a few pieces of fruit and coffees etc and an alcohol free beer at night and that may be 1600 cals in a day. Add to that the exercise I do and it means I can have a good blow out on a Saturday night with wine and beer etc and still lose weight.

I've had to mentally get back to where I was when younger and not think of food all the time, just eat it to subsist. Then look forward to the exceptions on holiday or on a Saturday night when I can enjoy it.

A key is to not have in the house food that is high in calories or unhealthy etc. Never use takeaways etc. Also avoid carbs as far as possible, if I eat protein I don't feel hungry, carbs though are my enemy.

Good luck to anyone needing to start a weight loss journey, the above is what works for me, any deviation and I'm easily back to my glutonous self so it takes self discipline.

I'm big built and 6'1" and was 20st. Now about 15st8. Objective is 14st2 +/-2pd. Hopefully will get there in June or earlier then need to maintain it using the regime I described.

[gregs656]

popeyewhite said:

gregs656 said:

That is what the studies show. I think someone mentioned the research earlier in this thread.

No. The studies show that once adaptation has taken place the body will attain a metabolism similar to that before the exercise/lifestyle was started.

Our guy is already doing exercise so my suggestion that his exercise is unlikely to affect his calorific requirement is consistent with what these studies show.

[Anonymous-poster]

ORD said:

Anonymous-poster said:

Would be very difficult if not in possible to sustain 2kg fat loss even for a few weeks!

If you’re not super fat to start with, sure. But if you’re not super fat, you won’t need to lose 2kg per week for more than a few weeks!

What calorie deficit are would you recommend to lose 2kg of fat perweek?

[Louis Balfour]

Anonymous-poster said:

ORD said:

Anonymous-poster said:

Would be very difficult if not in possible to sustain 2kg fat loss even for a few weeks!

If you’re not super fat to start with, sure. But if you’re not super fat, you won’t need to lose 2kg per week for more than a few weeks!

What calorie deficit are would you recommend to lose 2kg of fat perweek?

When training, I have never, ever lost 2kg of fat in a week. I have occasionally lost 1.8kg (max) when going from a carb to a fat-based diet, but that ain't fat boys and girls.

[Louis Balfour]

mcelliott said:

Louis Balfour said:

Why did you decide to lose the mass?

Because I didn't feel that comfortable at that weight and although I was eating clean the sheer amount I was consuming to keep that weight was taking a toll on my digestive system, feeling way better now light on my feet a generally a lot healthier.

I don't want to see photos of your poo, but what affect was it having on your digestive system?

[mcelliott]

Louis Balfour said:

I don't want to see photos of your poo, but what affect was it having on your digestive system?

Hha no poo was fine it's pretty taxing on the body for it to be constantly be breaking down food all the time, so my workouts and everyday life were suffering a little, now I only eat when I'm hungry and try and make it that I leave the table wanting more, I was listening to a podcast recently where someone said if we could view eating as a chore/necessity we'd all be a lot healthier

[Martin30]

I feel like I have had a bit of an epiphany recently, and it is along the lines of many above.

I have gone from a steady 72kg (5'9") until I was 30, then to 82kg for the last 20 years. As a response to a more sedantary lockdown WFH life, I have recently started just cutting portion size. No change in diet, but simply smaller portions. For me, 50% of prior breakfast size, 50% of lunch, and barely any change at dinner is working for me.

I am losing around 1.5kg a week currently, and feeling better. I am working on the principle that I need to be feeling hungry for at least a few hours each day, otherwise I am not actually losing weight. Previously, I very rarely felt hungry which I suppose is the body's way of saying we have enough fuel, stop adding more.

Martin.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

ORD said:

Same here. I absolutely love food.

Me too. So much so, I never eat anything else.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

ORD said:

You will lose weight fast if you reduce your daily intake by 200-500 calories.

Not if your starting point is 5000 calories a day. You'll just get fatter more slowly.

[cqueen]

anonymous said:

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After many years of yoyo-ing in weight, I think this is probably true. Thinking back, the most significant losses in weight I've made are when I've felt hungry and just ignored it (doing this consistently for a few weeks).

[popeyewhite]

anonymous said:

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It's not a nice feeling at all. Whilst at the start of a diet it can be taken as a motivational signpost that things are going according to plan, after a few weeks the excitement wears thin. The moment you realise you're developing a craving for houmous on a whole grain cracker as a snack is the moment you realise what hard months you have ahead

[cqueen]

popeyewhite said:

It's not a nice feeling at all.

Very true, I feel it right now! But I've seen really good progress over the last few weeks, so it motivates me to keep going.

[Louis Balfour]

To be absolutely honest, the time when I found it easiest to keep weight down was in the 1990s, when I used to go clubbing a lot. Marlborough Lights and Evian are clearly super foods.