Low testosterone

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Legacywr

12,143 posts

189 months

Friday 5th April
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Sounds a lot like '60' if you don't mind me saying.

PH's could do with a helpful sexual health thread...

Zio Di Roma

410 posts

33 months

Friday 5th April
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Legacywr said:
Sounds a lot like '60' if you don't mind me saying.

PH's could do with a helpful sexual health thread...
Really? I was hoping to be a bedroom hero well into my 70s!

I am quite fit and go to the gym five times per week. Three days weights, one day steady state cardio and one of HIIT.

Though the excess fat I carry won’t shift unless I eat and train like I am in the olympics, I am not a beer swilling chip muncher.




Legacywr

12,143 posts

189 months

Friday 5th April
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Zio Di Roma said:
Legacywr said:
Sounds a lot like '60' if you don't mind me saying.

PH's could do with a helpful sexual health thread...
Really? I was hoping to be a bedroom hero well into my 70s!

I am quite fit and go to the gym five times per week. Three days weights, one day steady state cardio and one of HIIT.

Though the excess fat I carry won’t shift unless I eat and train like I am in the olympics, I am not a beer swilling chip muncher.
Unfortunately, our sexual prowess (not that I really had much biggrin ) won’t carry on regardless. Things will start to weigh.

It does sound like you’ll benefit from testosterone replacement therapy.

simons123

116 posts

17 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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Tomorrow I'm about to start my NHS prescribed Nebido TRT injections. I'm having 1 tomorrow, a 6 week booster then every 12 weeks then.

Anyone had this before and what should I expect??

Hair loss is my biggest concern as I have a decent head of hair for 38.

Legacywr

12,143 posts

189 months

Tuesday 23rd April
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A bit of aggression, maybe spots. I didn’t get on with the 12 week regime, found daily gel worked better.

Hit the gym smile

simons123

116 posts

17 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Legacywr said:
A bit of aggression, maybe spots. I didn’t get on with the 12 week regime, found daily gel worked better.

Hit the gym smile
Did it help with brain fog? Always suffered with brain fog but can't work out if related to low T or the low dosage of Sertraline I take??

Legacywr

12,143 posts

189 months

Wednesday 24th April
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simons123 said:
Legacywr said:
A bit of aggression, maybe spots. I didn’t get on with the 12 week regime, found daily gel worked better.

Hit the gym smile
Did it help with brain fog? Always suffered with brain fog but can't work out if related to low T or the low dosage of Sertraline I take??
Yes, that was the symptom that led to my low T diagnosis smile

CheesecakeRunner

3,814 posts

92 months

Wednesday 24th April
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I had my levels checked recently as part of some other tests. It came back at 12.2nmol/L which the GP said was low, but not low enough for the NHS to do anything about it. Looking at the results sheet, I see they regard normal range as 8.3 to 30.2 - I'm 47.

As this thread is huge, I can't plough through all of it, so does this sound like it's worth getting addressed privately? A number of the symptoms of low testosterone would seem to apply to me.

272BHP

5,092 posts

237 months

Wednesday 24th April
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CheesecakeRunner said:
I had my levels checked recently as part of some other tests. It came back at 12.2nmol/L which the GP said was low, but not low enough for the NHS to do anything about it. Looking at the results sheet, I see they regard normal range as 8.3 to 30.2 - I'm 47.

As this thread is huge, I can't plough through all of it, so does this sound like it's worth getting addressed privately? A number of the symptoms of low testosterone would seem to apply to me.
Pay for a venous Medichecks test. They have a 20% off Spring sale at the moment. A total testosterone level on its own is not the full picture so this will give a broader view hormone wise.

https://www.medichecks.com/products/male-hormone-c...

If nothing else it gives you a baseline for the future so is well worth the investment.

Funk

26,296 posts

210 months

Friday 26th April
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272BHP said:
Pay for a venous Medichecks test. They have a 20% off Spring sale at the moment. A total testosterone level on its own is not the full picture so this will give a broader view hormone wise.

https://www.medichecks.com/products/male-hormone-c...

If nothing else it gives you a baseline for the future so is well worth the investment.
After months of feeling randomly fatigued, brain fog, low drive/motivation etc I pushed my GP to run a load of tests. Despite running pretty much every other blood test, they refused to test for testosterone despite me saying low T actually aligned well with my symptoms so I did the Medicheck test. Best £80 I've spent as it turns out my levels are appalling:



I've sent the report to my GP and they're going to give me a call back to discuss how we set about sorting this.

272BHP

5,092 posts

237 months

Friday 26th April
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Funk said:
I've sent the report to my GP and they're going to give me a call back to discuss how we set about sorting this.
My advice.

Phone your GP back and cancel the appointment. After that immediately phone the Leger clinic, Mens Health Clinic or some other legitimate provider. The two mentioned are well established and have generally good reputations. You will be in good hands either way.

If those levels are anywhere near representative then you have a life changing experience coming up in your near future.

BrownBottle

1,373 posts

137 months

Friday 26th April
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Funk said:
After months of feeling randomly fatigued, brain fog, low drive/motivation etc I pushed my GP to run a load of tests. Despite running pretty much every other blood test, they refused to test for testosterone despite me saying low T actually aligned well with my symptoms so I did the Medicheck test. Best £80 I've spent as it turns out my levels are appalling:



I've sent the report to my GP and they're going to give me a call back to discuss how we set about sorting this.
Did you get a proper blood test and not the fingerprick one as that can be unreliable, did you also get it done at the correct time of day ie. Early morning?

If you did then those numbers are very low. I'd echo 272bhp's comments about not even wasting your time with the NHS and just going straight to one of the reputable private clinics he mentioned.

simons123

116 posts

17 months

Friday 26th April
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Funk said:
272BHP said:
Pay for a venous Medichecks test. They have a 20% off Spring sale at the moment. A total testosterone level on its own is not the full picture so this will give a broader view hormone wise.

https://www.medichecks.com/products/male-hormone-c...

If nothing else it gives you a baseline for the future so is well worth the investment.
After months of feeling randomly fatigued, brain fog, low drive/motivation etc I pushed my GP to run a load of tests. Despite running pretty much every other blood test, they refused to test for testosterone despite me saying low T actually aligned well with my symptoms so I did the Medicheck test. Best £80 I've spent as it turns out my levels are appalling:



I've sent the report to my GP and they're going to give me a call back to discuss how we set about sorting this.
Wow your T levels are dangerously low.....mine was 6nmol and was seen as very low. Low enough to be referred by my doctor to an hospital where I'm now on TRT via the NHS.

Sod paying £30-50 a month for TRT for the rest of my life privately when I can get it for free from the NHS....however be prepared for a LONG wait....from referral to getting TRT it has took over 1 year.

272BHP

5,092 posts

237 months

Saturday 27th April
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simons123 said:
Sod paying £30-50 a month for TRT for the rest of my life privately when I can get it for free from the NHS....however be prepared for a LONG wait....from referral to getting TRT it has took over 1 year.
His case needs some investigation as his LH and FSH are in range but other markers are all over the place. I would be concerned that simple testosterone therapy could cause other issues given that he has high Oestradiol combined with a very low Testosterone level.

He will simply get a more professional diagnosis and appropriate treatment from the private clinics. He will not get that from the NHS cookie cutter approach to male hormone replacement therapy.

I will echo Brownbottles concerns about the type of test the poster took and what time it what taken. That could go some way to explaining some of those curious levels.

Legacywr

12,143 posts

189 months

Saturday 27th April
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simons123 said:
Wow your T levels are dangerously low.....mine was 6nmol and was seen as very low. Low enough to be referred by my doctor to an hospital where I'm now on TRT via the NHS.

Sod paying £30-50 a month for TRT for the rest of my life privately when I can get it for free from the NHS....however be prepared for a LONG wait....from referral to getting TRT it has took over 1 year.
What method of treatment are you on?

Plus, £30-50pm? You’ll be lucky.

simons123

116 posts

17 months

Saturday 27th April
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Legacywr said:
simons123 said:
Wow your T levels are dangerously low.....mine was 6nmol and was seen as very low. Low enough to be referred by my doctor to an hospital where I'm now on TRT via the NHS.

Sod paying £30-50 a month for TRT for the rest of my life privately when I can get it for free from the NHS....however be prepared for a LONG wait....from referral to getting TRT it has took over 1 year.
What method of treatment are you on?

Plus, £30-50pm? You’ll be lucky.
Just started Nebido. Has a bad rep...too early for me too say though as just taken it.

Lucky to get it for £30-50pm? How much you pay then? When I looked previously I'm sure the Ledger was around £30-40 p/m

Legacywr

12,143 posts

189 months

Saturday 27th April
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simons123 said:
Just started Nebido. Has a bad rep...too early for me too say though as just taken it.

Lucky to get it for £30-50pm? How much you pay then? When I looked previously I'm sure the Ledger was around £30-40 p/m
Are they? Must research…

pidsy

8,004 posts

158 months

Saturday 27th April
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Currently paying £97 a month with Optimale - and I must say, their customer care has dropped off a cliff over the past year.

Not great at all.

Legacywr

12,143 posts

189 months

Saturday 27th April
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pidsy said:
Currently paying £97 a month with Optimale - and I must say, their customer care has dropped off a cliff over the past year.

Not great at all.
It’s not what it should be.

Yazza54

18,537 posts

182 months

I've just ordered a test, morbid curiosity more than anything else but I do often feel fked/lacking energy/strength these days. I'm only mid 30s but every time I go to the gym I've got nothing in the tank. Could well be my diet.

I can muster the energy to do stuff I want to do to be fair.. any sort of workout with no overall goal just feels like a huge chore to me. Like I could cycle somewhere and back, but tell me to go do a few K on a treadmill or do some sets of weights and I feel weak and devoid of any "go".