Becoming a morning person
Discussion
OMITN said:
I hate morning people.
The world is run by them and they get so uppity and righteous - “early to bed, early to rise”, “the early bird gets the worm”, “an hour before midnight is worth two hours after”.
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Matthew Walker has been referenced up the thread. Read him and you’ll know that largely we’re programmed to have a “chronotype” - roughly split into thirds humans are larks/middle/night owls. But the larks will tell you you’re lazy for getting up “late” (ie later than them) but never admit that going to bed in the middle of the evening is equally “lazy”.
So OP you can try but you will probably never be happy. And, if you’re a night owl like me you’ll resent having to start work in the morning when your most productive hours are in the evening, which is long after the bedwetters have gone home for an early night….
The world is run by them and they get so uppity and righteous - “early to bed, early to rise”, “the early bird gets the worm”, “an hour before midnight is worth two hours after”.
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kers.Matthew Walker has been referenced up the thread. Read him and you’ll know that largely we’re programmed to have a “chronotype” - roughly split into thirds humans are larks/middle/night owls. But the larks will tell you you’re lazy for getting up “late” (ie later than them) but never admit that going to bed in the middle of the evening is equally “lazy”.
So OP you can try but you will probably never be happy. And, if you’re a night owl like me you’ll resent having to start work in the morning when your most productive hours are in the evening, which is long after the bedwetters have gone home for an early night….
Ok, calm down.
But yes, I respect my body's personal clock and you'll find me doing work at midnight while the lazypants have gone to sleep.
Electronicpants said:
Try and get outside and into some sunlight or natural light asap, just standing at the back door while having a coffee will help.
This is the answer. Many people don’t properly wake up their bodies and brains till about 11am so it is no wonder sleep and awakening is such a struggle.Get up early and get out as soon as you can into the sunlight and the fresh air. Everything will be so much easier from then on.
Can't claim to have fully cracked it, but I have gone from absolute job losing, friend annoying, degree underachieving omnishambles to holding it together pretty well.
I found the simple answer is to get way more sleep. If you're much like me, when you say bed at 11 you probably mean switch TV off at 11, fiddle with phone or read for most of an hour, listen to your wife's worries and actually sleep sometime after 12. If you're waking up at 6:30-7 it's just not enough sleep. Maybe 6 hours a night. And it adds up. If you needed 8 hours, by mid week you have a cumulative deficit of 5 or 6 hours. You're grumpy as hell, walking round in a daze and feeling like crap.
If I want to be up at 6 I'll be in bed by 9 and hopefully asleep by about 9:30, and if I manage that I'll probably beat the alarm.
A couple of other things that have helped:
Hydration. Drink water in the evening and have a glass next to your bed. Especially if you like a beer or wine, it can take days to balance things out. If you don't have a glass of water between 7pm and 7am that's half a day of dehydrating.
Exercise. A bit of stretching and/or lifting, or a 20 minute walk does me a power of good that lasts all day. Just have to force yourself to make a start.
Silence your wife. Or at least train her not to witter. From nearly everyone I've spoken to about it, it's a common female trait to lie in bed and offload all their worries and wants then go to sleep. They don't mean any harm. And as per the famous mantra they're not even looking for an answer, but the male brain sets off seeking one. It needs shutting down.
I found the simple answer is to get way more sleep. If you're much like me, when you say bed at 11 you probably mean switch TV off at 11, fiddle with phone or read for most of an hour, listen to your wife's worries and actually sleep sometime after 12. If you're waking up at 6:30-7 it's just not enough sleep. Maybe 6 hours a night. And it adds up. If you needed 8 hours, by mid week you have a cumulative deficit of 5 or 6 hours. You're grumpy as hell, walking round in a daze and feeling like crap.
If I want to be up at 6 I'll be in bed by 9 and hopefully asleep by about 9:30, and if I manage that I'll probably beat the alarm.
A couple of other things that have helped:
Hydration. Drink water in the evening and have a glass next to your bed. Especially if you like a beer or wine, it can take days to balance things out. If you don't have a glass of water between 7pm and 7am that's half a day of dehydrating.
Exercise. A bit of stretching and/or lifting, or a 20 minute walk does me a power of good that lasts all day. Just have to force yourself to make a start.
Silence your wife. Or at least train her not to witter. From nearly everyone I've spoken to about it, it's a common female trait to lie in bed and offload all their worries and wants then go to sleep. They don't mean any harm. And as per the famous mantra they're not even looking for an answer, but the male brain sets off seeking one. It needs shutting down.
Whats on Second said:
not drinking between 10pm - 10am is the only way to get a nights
sleep without a pee break, so i'll risk the travails of dehydration
[ really ? being dehydrated if you dont drink for 12 hours, in the fking sahara maybe, not Arbroath ]
Yeah, that bit is complete nonsense. Fine to drink regularly during the day, great if it works for him.sleep without a pee break, so i'll risk the travails of dehydration
[ really ? being dehydrated if you dont drink for 12 hours, in the f
king sahara maybe, not Arbroath ]I'm a morning person in that I go to bed between 4 and 6 am.
I was reading under the sheets with a torch as soon as I could read.
Obviously for stretches I've had to 'do' mornings but my body clearly wasn't all that pleased. Some people are simply hard wired that way.
And yes, the racism against night owls is out of control, especially their unfathomable inability to understand that if you count up the hours I actually got less sleep than you overall.
I was reading under the sheets with a torch as soon as I could read.
Obviously for stretches I've had to 'do' mornings but my body clearly wasn't all that pleased. Some people are simply hard wired that way.
And yes, the racism against night owls is out of control, especially their unfathomable inability to understand that if you count up the hours I actually got less sleep than you overall.
I’ve been doing the same job for coming up 15 years now, and I can count on one hand the days I’ve woken up and got straight out of bed. Maybe it’s the extra hour lie in but Saturdays I regularly get a headache and have to take paracetamol before it becomes bad enough to make me nauseous. Fine every other day, just Saturdays.
bloomen said:
And yes, the racism against night owls is out of control, especially their unfathomable inability to understand that if you count up the hours I actually got less sleep than you overall.
Wasn't it Mark Wahlberg bragging about being up at 5am? He posted his daily timetable. Stupid fk goes to bed at 7pm. bloomen said:
Hoofy said:
Wasn't it Mark Wahlberg bragging about being up at 5am? He posted his daily timetable. Stupid fk goes to bed at 7pm.
I thought it was 2 am. I also thought it was a joke. If it isn't I'll get him someday. k goes to bed at 7pm. So much information out there and lots mentioned here in this thread.
One thing no one has mentioned is having something to get out of bed for. Might sound cliche and i certainly haven't got it cracked but i used to love getting up early doors when taking fitness seriously. Find a thing in your day that's worth getting up for.
One thing no one has mentioned is having something to get out of bed for. Might sound cliche and i certainly haven't got it cracked but i used to love getting up early doors when taking fitness seriously. Find a thing in your day that's worth getting up for.
Hoofy said:
bloomen said:
Hoofy said:
Wasn't it Mark Wahlberg bragging about being up at 5am? He posted his daily timetable. Stupid fk goes to bed at 7pm.
I thought it was 2 am. I also thought it was a joke. If it isn't I'll get him someday. k goes to bed at 7pm. 
No great tips here.
Motivated by hating the traffic if my timing is off I learned to drag myself up at first alarm. But it's motor functions only until I get something in me, preferably some breakfast but half a pint of water and a biscuit will do for an instant hydration and blood sugar hit. Then mental functions boot up.
Motivated by hating the traffic if my timing is off I learned to drag myself up at first alarm. But it's motor functions only until I get something in me, preferably some breakfast but half a pint of water and a biscuit will do for an instant hydration and blood sugar hit. Then mental functions boot up.
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