Becoming a morning person

Becoming a morning person

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HTP99

22,558 posts

140 months

Friday 10th June 2022
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Some of you go to bed really early, it is funny though how different things have different affects on us, my general routine is seen as a definite no no for a decent nights sleep but it works for me.

Me, in bed around 22:30 - 23:00, I usually then go on my tablet for half an hour or so, put it down and then pretty much as soon as my head hits the pillow I am gone, alarm goes off at 05:45, usually I'm stirring around 05:30, up at around 05:55, dogs are fed, make a tea for the wife, shower, breakfast then out of the house by around 06:30 to walk the dogs.

I can even drink coffee right up to bed time and it has zero affect on me.

r1ch

2,872 posts

196 months

Friday 10th June 2022
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I've recently been temporarily sleeping with thinner curtains up, and instead of sleeping in till 8am i'm wide awake ready to go about 6:30am. I haven't noticed any i'm any more tired than usual in the day either.

Harry H

3,398 posts

156 months

Friday 10th June 2022
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Haven't used an alarm on a daily basis in years. After decades of getting up at 7am that's when I wake. Irrelevant of when I go to sleep.

I don't follow a strict routine at bed time just go to bed when I feel tired. Sometimes 9pm other nights can be past midnight.

After a particularly big night out the other day getting to bed when the sun was starting to rise I was still wide awake at 7am. Although on that occasion I did roll over and give myself an extra couple of hours.

psi310398

9,095 posts

203 months

Friday 10th June 2022
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Electronicpants said:
I like how he manages a round of golf in 1/2 an hour but takes1.5 hours to eat a snack after, must be sucking on a fisherman friend.
Completely O/T, but the perils of ear worm.

Since I saw a clip of him with Holly Willoughby, I can now only read that last clause with a Julian Clary voiceover in my head.

Roderick Spode

3,094 posts

49 months

Friday 10th June 2022
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OMITN said:
I hate morning people.

The world is run by them and they get so uppity and righteous - “early to bed, early to rise”, “the early bird gets the worm”, “an hour before midnight is worth two hours after”.

wkers.

Matthew Walker has been referenced up the thread. Read him and you’ll know that largely we’re programmed to have a “chronotype” - roughly split into thirds humans are larks/middle/night owls. But the larks will tell you you’re lazy for getting up “late” (ie later than them) but never admit that going to bed in the middle of the evening is equally “lazy”.

So OP you can try but you will probably never be happy. And, if you’re a night owl like me you’ll resent having to start work in the morning when your most productive hours are in the evening, which is long after the bedwetters have gone home for an early night….
Very much this. There are a number of conditions associated with disrupted or abnormal sleep patterns, such as DSPS or Non-24. Regular health practitioners simply don't understand these things, and so you get the usual mantra of "turn off your TV, just go to bed earlier..." If your brain isn't releasing melanin naturally until 2am, you ain't going to sleep at 9pm. I have DSPS, my natural sleep cycle is 4am - 11am, but have spent a lifetime being told I'm "lazy". I remember as a young man working in my first engineering job - if we had a pressing deadline to get drawings out the door or whatever, I would stay on and work all night until it was done, whilst my "non-lazy" colleagues were all tucked up warm in their beds. Gaffer was always grateful, gave me extra days off and bonuses as I saved their bacon on more than one occasion.

I've always resented the "lazy" label - when we moved into the house we now live in, I spent the first month redecorating large areas of it in the small hours of the morning, when the rest of the world was asleep. You do get some strange looks gardening or spannering a car at 2am with a head torch.

To the OP - you can force yourself to wake early, but it's not fun. I spent years chronically sleep deprived, but it's really terrible for your health. When working away from home during the week, I needed to get up at 6am to be on site for 7am, but my brain simply refused to sleep before 1am. That makes for a very long week, and then at weekends I would catch up with long lie ins until lunchtime, which of course infuriated my wife. After nearly a decade of that I changed jobs to something less demanding of early morning rises.

jm8403

2,515 posts

25 months

Friday 10th June 2022
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Roderick Spode said:
I've always resented the "lazy" label - when we moved into the house we now live in, I spent the first month redecorating large areas of it in the small hours of the morning, when the rest of the world was asleep. You do get some strange looks gardening or spannering a car at 2am with a head torch.
Sorry to hear that, that seems hard to deal with. I struggle with early starts where others seem to be fine, this is very annoying as I stuggle to sleep earlier than 2300-2330. I am not surprised people are wondering why you're gardening with a headtorch, I believe not many people have a natural sleep cycle of 4am - 11am...

Raymond Reddington

2,972 posts

110 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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I'm permanently fked

I've been to the doctors for tests recently because I was convinced its not normal to feel so tired.

Several alarms over the other side of the room to wake up. Wake up knackered every day, groggy and generally feeling like rubbish.

The doctor asked some questions and it seems that my work routine for more or less my entire working life is contributing in no small way to feeling cream crackered.

Early starts, late finishes, shifts, long commutes...

Because I'm so tired I can rarely be arsed to cook decent food or exercise adequately which in turn makes me feel even worse!

Need to get a grip on this soon. The alarm clocks mentioned above sound interesting!

ChevronB19

5,786 posts

163 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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Raymond Reddington said:
I'm permanently fked

I've been to the doctors for tests recently because I was convinced its not normal to feel so tired.

Several alarms over the other side of the room to wake up. Wake up knackered every day, groggy and generally feeling like rubbish.

The doctor asked some questions and it seems that my work routine for more or less my entire working life is contributing in no small way to feeling cream crackered.

Early starts, late finishes, shifts, long commutes...

Because I'm so tired I can rarely be arsed to cook decent food or exercise adequately which in turn makes me feel even worse!

Need to get a grip on this soon. The alarm clocks mentioned above sound interesting!
I was (and still am, to an extent) similar, but multivitamins helped quite a bit - have you tried them?

jmn

895 posts

280 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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I had to get up early for my last job and even now I'm normally up and about by 6 15.

Off to bed around 10pm. Not difficult when the vast majority of television programmes are rubbish.

One Amp Andy

1,462 posts

190 months

Thursday 30th June 2022
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jmn said:
I had to get up early for my last job and even now I'm normally up and about by 6 15.

Off to bed around 10pm. Not difficult when the vast majority of television programmes are rubbish.
Not difficult when you're ready for bed at around 10pm. This doesn't always revolve around what's on the TV, but when you're actually tired.