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jfdi

1,061 posts

176 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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skedaddle said:
I fear what we're seeing is Immune system damage due to repeated Covid infections.
Touch paper lit!
Are you sure about that cause?

fiatpower

3,051 posts

172 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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My wife and I have had it for around 5 weeks now. Both felt terrible for a few days and I had a day off work but ever since we have had hacking coughs we just can't shift. Been the doctors and have nothing on the lungs, they said it's going around and may take a while to clear.

I've been vaccinated and had COVID twice for what it's worth.

fridaypassion

8,586 posts

229 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Somethings run through the FP household rough cough dripping nose and body aches. Was quite surprised when the Mrs broke out the covid tests and it +ve

Doesn't feel like when I had it in Feb. My Mrs has had covid 3 times now!

croyde

22,985 posts

231 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Come on people! it's a cold, a rotten one.

Been 4 weeks for me, still a bit of a cough and feeling tired.

I've had colds that have lasted 2 days and some that have dragged on, they are all different.

Yes, I too have had colds that have wiped out my sense of smell, taste and even ability to hear.

Because a certain cold got the reputation of being The Plague, everyone now gets the willies everytime the bloody press goes hyper about another of the usual bugs.

This cold was far worse than when I had 'Covid' and many medical people are now pointing out that locking away the population was a very daft thing to do.

I used to get one cold a year but since Lockdowns I've had cold after cold.

My grown up daughter doesn't stop getting colds now, but her job has her mixing with the public all the time plus she's always out smile

One more thing, I've had flu once in my 60 years so far, that is bad, really awful.

But not as bad as Manflu smile

Of course if you are trying to wangle a couple of days off work, you ring in and say Flu, as saying you have a cold won't cut it.

oddball1313

1,196 posts

124 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Had the most stinking cold ever over the last 10 days. Normally shake off the runny nose/sore throat in a couple of days but this one has really dug its claws in. Nothing in the lungs and haven’t actually felt ill below the collar bones but can’t believe i’ve had its so long ( had that much snot that i got conjunctivitis in both eyes….which is nice) drying out now so will be fine again in the next day or so but this was way worse than when I had covid in March, that was feeling ill for one day and then a bit like a hangover for a couple of days after.

andyA700

2,745 posts

38 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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skedaddle said:
I fear what we're seeing is Immune system damage due to repeated Covid infections. This would explain more severe ill health as well as the RSV, Strep A outbreaks. There is some evidence for immunity breakdown caused by covid - https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.30...

For anyone thinking immunity debt, ask yourself why Sweden, which didn't lockdown, has had bad RSV outbreaks last year and now this winter.
At last, an intelligent post.
The UK at the moment (well, since March of this year) has been the only country to stop posting reliable figures for Covid cases and deaths. Most countries are posting their daily Covid stats. In the UK, hardly anyone is testing and those who are, are using the highly unreliable LF tests, which will only pick up around 30% of positives. The "gold standard" is of course PCR (Polymerase chain reaction) tests, which are 90% reliable. If someone is transferred from a hospital to a care home, then any reputable care home will insist on a negative PCR test before taking them in.
Let us now compare the UK with Italy. Last week, Italy registered around 300,000 cases of Covid and 400 deaths, whilst the UK registered 35,466 cases and 570 deaths. Does anyone see anything strange about those figures?
I wish that people could understand, that there is no such thing as herd immunity from a coronavirus. We have stopped testing, Covid is spreading and more people are dying.
More people died in the UK from Covid this Summer (1st June to 31st August) than the same period in 2020 or 2021.

Hub

6,441 posts

199 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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RemarkLima said:
BlackWidow13 said:
Did no one ever lose their sense of taste and smell with a heavy cold or flu pre covid? I did, every time. Once your nasal passages get properly blocked your sense of smell goes, and once that happens your sense of taste goes with it (see, eg, videos of blindfolded people without a sense of smell eating an onion, thinking it’s an apple).
Agreed, any cold you'll lose your sense of taste and smell, only covid was when you're better and still can't taste.

All this sounds like a common or garden flu. Muscle aches, high fever, dry cough, and weeks and weeks of fatigue. People do not get the flu very often, hence the surprise when it does hit.
Yes, the symptoms sound like a nasty one I had at Christmas about 5 years ago. High temperature for days, aches, flu symptoms but also severe cold congestion. Lost all taste and smell, and when the smell came back it wasn't right in some cases for about 6 months or more - some things smelled and tasted awful,it wasn't fun. Since then every minor virus I have also lingers in my sinuses for ages and gets infected and affects my throat more, so it did a good one in me!

Badda

2,676 posts

83 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Yes it’s torn through our house too. Really nasty.

Not sure why some are keen to label it covid. We’ve all tested multiple times and all negative. Plus, nothing like covid.
Other viruses are out there!

fridaypassion

8,586 posts

229 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Update - I am -Ve !

aizvara

2,051 posts

168 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Badda said:
Yes it’s torn through our house too. Really nasty.

Not sure why some are keen to label it covid. We’ve all tested multiple times and all negative. Plus, nothing like covid.
Other viruses are out there!
I'm not keen, I just had these symptoms and did a test which was immediately positive. I assume therefore that I have covid. Given that this is a thread discussing people's symptoms with what seems to be a common cause (though is in fact likely to be multiple similar illnesses) I thought that might be worth sharing.
I have had covid before - back just before the first lockdown - and that was scarier due to difficulty breathing amongst other things, but I guess covid has changed since then (or my immune response has).

Kuwahara said:
Why is anybody still testing,what do you do if you test positive ,isolate from people who are vaxxed just seems pointless…if you feel st stay in bed but why the covid badge to justify it…
I didn't need or want a covid badge, and I'd isolate from others regardless of whether this is covid or not - I don't want to give people this illness.
My main reason for doing a test was that my brother suggested a lot of people have had "a bad cold"/mild flu symptoms as in this thread, and tested, and its turned out to be covid. Which was the case for me. Another reason was that this is not my normal experience of a bad cold, so I was interested to find out what it might be.

The worst thing for me is that it doesn't seem to be improving - after the initial more acute fever/shivering/aching, I'm now day six of unchanged feeling weird, coughing/sore throat and bad sleep.

r3g

3,216 posts

25 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Lots of very sick people here. Everybody up to date with their boosters ? scratchchin

vixen1700

23,032 posts

271 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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jfdi said:
skedaddle said:
I fear what we're seeing is Immune system damage due to repeated Covid injections.
Touch paper lit!
Are you sure about that cause?
whistle

Mirinjawbro

691 posts

65 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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shouldn't most of you be ok though?

listened to Boris on getting jabbed up for something that 99% pretty much survive

the big scam

J4CKO

41,660 posts

201 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Im up to date, have had Covid twice but havent tested this time.

But, feeling a lot better today so far, managing to function work wise where yesterday/Monday I just couldn't be arsed with anything. Got loads to do but no inclination to do it, had to nip to the shed and it was a bit of a crusade, took the dog out and was really not feeling our usual evening walk.


Greendubber

13,228 posts

204 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Managed to get this on day one of a trip to New York a couple of weeks ago. Felt bloody awful, sweats, chills, shakes and coughs. Woke up hallucinating one night absolutely soaked with sweat.....grim. Then slept for 18 hours straight the next night.

Was awful for a week and now just have a cough that's outstayed it's welcome.

Tested negative throughout, just spent the time off my tits on flu meds.

Ahonen

5,018 posts

280 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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andyA700 said:
At last, an intelligent post.
The UK at the moment (well, since March of this year) has been the only country to stop posting reliable figures for Covid cases and deaths. Most countries are posting their daily Covid stats. In the UK, hardly anyone is testing and those who are, are using the highly unreliable LF tests, which will only pick up around 30% of positives. The "gold standard" is of course PCR (Polymerase chain reaction) tests, which are 90% reliable. If someone is transferred from a hospital to a care home, then any reputable care home will insist on a negative PCR test before taking them in.
Let us now compare the UK with Italy. Last week, Italy registered around 300,000 cases of Covid and 400 deaths, whilst the UK registered 35,466 cases and 570 deaths. Does anyone see anything strange about those figures?
I wish that people could understand, that there is no such thing as herd immunity from a coronavirus. We have stopped testing, Covid is spreading and more people are dying.
More people died in the UK from Covid this Summer (1st June to 31st August) than the same period in 2020 or 2021.
It's like a throwback to 2021 - especially the bit where you explained what a PCR test is and used the 'gold standard' cliche.

Your last point is an interesting one though and seems to suggest that the vaccines have had a decidedly negative affect now that they've worn off and, as an added bonus, those of us who've been jabbed are now far less protected than the unvaccinated. Ironically this might make the harmless Omicron version more dangerous than it would have otherwise been. Yay for 'the' science.

usn90

1,422 posts

71 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Douglas Quaid said:
So 9-11 negatives and 1 positive.

Did it cross your mind that the 1 positive is more likely to be a false result than the 9-11 negatives?
No, simply because my mrs and 2 young kids all had confirmed covid at the time, and I had the exact same symptoms a few days later.

TameRacingDriver

18,097 posts

273 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Looks like I've joined the lurgy club this Xmas, day before I break up as well FFS laugh Lying on my armchair shivering under a blanket in a warm room, achy muscles, dry chest and throat with an occasional cough, and it took me half an hour to muster to the energy to get myself a glass of wine. Also Mrs TRD is out tonight so I've got to sort out my own tea, and earlier I thought it was a good idea to cook myself lamb cutlets instead of a ready meal. banghead

skedaddle

149 posts

22 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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vixen1700 said:
jfdi said:
skedaddle said:
I fear what we're seeing is Immune system damage due to repeated Covid injections.
Touch paper lit!
Are you sure about that cause?
whistle
See https://www.mdpi.com/2076-0817/10/10/1267 - specifically section 5. Immune Dysregulation.

Further https://www.autoimmuneregistry.org/long-covid-anno... - "Autoimmune Registry has decided to include Long COVID in its list of autoimmune diseases to support research into this emerging chronic condition."

Scientists cannot be 100% at this time but there's a growing body of research that's giving cause for concern. The health crisis in the UK and elsewhere is further evidence that something is not right. A GP yesterday reported:

GP said:
my practice with 16.5k patients had 1400 incoming calls: 8.5% of our patients looking for help on 1 day.

There’s reports of 9 hr waits in Paeds A&E

111 GP callback lists with 100s of people who won’t be called back
8.5% looking for help in 1 day is huge.

otolith

56,252 posts

205 months

Wednesday 21st December 2022
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Oh god, they’re here.