I see no real purpose in living

[Super Sonic]

Seems like you have a lot going on right now. Possible the doctor is prioritising your physiological problems over the mental ones. The antidepressants can take a while to kick in though, so you do need to keep taking them. You also need to get your GP to refer you to mental health services. This is important as physical illness absolutely has an effect on your mental well-being. You need to do this for the people around you as well as yourself. Don't give up as things can get better but it is in your hands. Make getting your GP to refer you to mental health an absolute priority.

[WarnieV6GT]

Hi James,

I'm rubbish at typing and also conveying what I actually want to say correctly, but here goes..

I also like many on here, lost a parent last year. My dad was amazing and almost perfect. Covid took him 30 years too early. It broke me and I suffered severe panic attacks as a result.

I turned to everything I could think of to see if there was anything at the end of this life, a heaven, an afterlife etc. I read books on quantum physics and around 20 on life after death, near death experiences and such like. So did my sister, it was the only way we could cope.

It has helped us no end. It seems that it's mainly us Europeans who believe that this is all there is. The rest of the world believe different. It gives us great comfort and it may do you.

Ask me about this before I lost my dad and my nan shortly afterwards and I would have laughed at you as if your losing it. Now I have changed opinion and if nothing else it has changed the way I look at life.

Please continue with your insulin and sort your diet out. Your mind and body are as one. You will never recover mentally if you don't start contacting on your health. Despite your serious health issues you can still make a difference.

All the best mate.

[996Keef]

Blood relatives wise I lost everyone except my sister by the time I was 40

Luckily I have some very good close friends and a loving wife and daughter.

They got me through it. Make sure you talk to them, they'll listen. Don't be afraid to show your emotions to these people, they love you.

If you want to chat to a random bloke my message box is open. Might help, maybe not for you but the offer is there

[996Keef]

WarnieV6GT said:

Hi James,

I'm rubbish at typing and also conveying what I actually want to say correctly, but here goes..

I also like many on here, lost a parent last year. My dad was amazing and almost perfect. Covid took him 30 years too early. It broke me and I suffered severe panic attacks as a result.

I turned to everything I could think of to see if there was anything at the end of this life, a heaven, an afterlife etc. I read books on quantum physics and around 20 on life after death, near death experiences and such like. So did my sister, it was the only way we could cope.

It has helped us no end. It seems that it's mainly us Europeans who believe that this is all there is. The rest of the world believe different. It gives us great comfort and it may do you.

Ask me about this before I lost my dad and my nan shortly afterwards and I would have laughed at you as if your losing it. Now I have changed opinion and if nothing else it has changed the way I look at life.

Please continue with your insulin and sort your diet out. Your mind and body are as one. You will never recover mentally if you don't start contacting on your health. Despite your serious health issues you can still make a difference.

All the best mate.

I'd just like to add, this is sterling advice. I wasn't fit, I took up a new , physical job, gave up drinking and I feel 20 again. Sometimes!

[Pit Pony]

Grief is a horrible and often illogical emotion.

On the point made about clearing out someone's possessions.

I watched the neice of the 90 year old from across the road from us, dispose of all his possessions in 7 skips. He was a bit of a hoarder, but there was also collections of books, furniture he'd made himself.

Then the house was sold. Then a builder, had another 5 skips, whilst they brought it up to spec.
Then someone moved in and got another skip and put the whole contents of the garden in it. Plants and shrubs and grass.

13 skips. His whole life.

[Shanter]

Life has no meaning. And this is objectively normal. The problem arises when a person tries to understand and accept this subjectively. Because a person is so arranged that he needs to do something for something. Without any intention, purpose or reason, no one will do something. Mindless actions aren't inherent in any animal, as this is a waste of energy, but doesn't bring any benefit. The very idea of the meaninglessness of life seems incomprehensible to a person, and therefore frightening. Such a situation can be described as a state when the consciousness sees no reason to live, and the subconscious mind sees no reason to die. Therefore, a person who encounters such a discovery falls into some stupor or frustration. It seems that a person needs to make a choice between equally important options, but this isn't entirely true. Here you can come to some kind of compromise, that is, try to come to terms with the fact that objectively - life is a meaningless process, but subjectively- you can find your personal goals and objectives in order to continue this amazing process of personal ontogenesis.

[Jumpingjackflash]

Reading this thread you realise how many wonderful people there are in the community and willing to help a stranger. Reaching out is a brave thing to do and the fact you are willing to want help and ask for help fills me with huge optimism for your future.

[HustleRussell]

James_33 said:

Hello everyone, it's been a while since i last updated this thread, so thought i would comment, I went to my appointment to see the doctor, unfortunately a review on my diabetic management was also due, I also got a referral for my eyes checking over to see if anything had worsened there, sadly my vision has got worse (not as i can see) but damage has been done through the diabetes, which more than likely will finish my job off as i will more than likely have my license revoked.

I was also told i have high blood pressure, which on top of my type 1 and a kidney disease i inherited genetically years ago means i am in pretty poor condition when you take the mental health into the equation too.

I have now pretty much given up, the doctor has said nothing over my mental health other than to carry on taking my existing medication, and come back for a review later, seems i am nothing more than a statistic amongst the many thousands out there who will be just like me.

That's rough.

I firmly believe that your mental health will turn around. It may not be today and it may not be tomorrow, but day to day please don't give up on your physical health. When your day comes you'll be proud that you did. The doctors may be inundated but elements of your physical health are largely in your hands.

I'm going to say yet another silly hippy dippy thing in the thread. You shouldn't expect miracles of yourself one day to the next. For some people, when depressed, it can be an achievement simply to brush one's teeth or to get outside. However, present-day 'you' needs to be as good a custodian as you can be of your body, for the benefit of your future self. Make it number one priority. If you feel that it is not worthwhile, futile, too late- know that that is your depression talking.

Your depression is impacting your physical health, your physical health is feeding your depression- the cycle must be broken. It is surely a very hard thing to do but I reckon the most achievable and tangible successes you can score is taking steps to manage your diabetes and blood pressure, one day, two days, a week at a time. Self worth is an important foundation of 'not being depressed'- but it is a function of how well you treat yourself.

Edited by HustleRussell on Wednesday 12th April 12:17