Silent reflux

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Dupont666

21,612 posts

193 months

Wednesday 17th June 2009
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I mate (neighbour) has similar issues with really bad acid reflux, they tested him and shoved st down his throat....

he has been on medicine at the risk of needing surgery and it seems to help loads.

Will find out what it is next time I see him...

RobB.

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72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 17th June 2009
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Having now seen the surgery which helped me to understand all the implications I'd rather get it under control with medication.

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

182 months

Thursday 18th June 2009
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Ditch the coffee. That's the worst culprit in my case such that I've given it up now - and it took me a long time to identify it.

RobB.

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72,857 posts

240 months

Thursday 18th June 2009
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Interesting, I was just wondering about the espresso machine I bought recently. It doesn't quite coincide but it's not far off.

How long did it take for your reflux to settle down after you ditched it?

giw12

1,248 posts

264 months

Thursday 18th June 2009
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Cheese and yoghurt did me in...not had a problem since I dropped them. Used to get through a lot of rennies/gaviscon/ranitidine etc.

Friend of mine was prescribed ranitidine for many years...he's 44 now and it's done a lot of damage (not irremediable though) to his stomach.

Best to find the root cause I'd say.

Dupont666

21,612 posts

193 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Got the info back...

He uses Omeprazole but its only on prescription from GP

RobB.

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72,857 posts

240 months

Friday 19th June 2009
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Same stuff I'm already on, but thanks for asking biggrin

One day without coffee, no change irked

HRG.

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240 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Helicobacter Pylori, talk to me people. I also have a fizzing sensation in my stomach and it's noisier than the bloody central heating at night...

Could it be bacteria causing the whole thing?

giw12

1,248 posts

264 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Ditch the dairy and coffee for 2 or 3 days.

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

182 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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And white bread.

HRG.

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240 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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I've ditched coffee for three weeks with no difference frown

Might try to ditch dairy and bread soon, but it's not easy when you're on a diet anyway! My money is on those pesky bacteria.

Podie

46,630 posts

276 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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HRG. said:
My money is on those pesky bacteria.
Quit the yackult then.

Edited by Podie on Tuesday 29th September 09:36

HRG.

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72,857 posts

240 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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No, they're good bacteria... I think.

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

225 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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To be blunt - bkS! - "good bacteria" my arse!

"improves digestive transit" = gives you the sts.

Firstly, cut out the gaviscon. It is causing hyperacidosis. Your body is producing yet more acid to counteract the effect of the gaviscon. H2 blockers don't work properly if you interfere with them using conventional antacids. You'd be better to drink pure water to thin the acid down.

Now, I too suffer from silent reflux. I don't drink tea or coffee, my dairy intake is quite low (I'm not a calf, I don't need cow's milk). I have a pretty balanced diet for an omnivore.

Bread causes all sorts of grief - though not every sort of bread. Some loaves do worse than others - which leads me to think of an issue with breadmaking yeast.

Some beers cause me grief - I can't drink Carling, it gives me baddddd acid. Though many real ales are fine - even cask ales complete with real live yeast.

Yeast products get into all sorts of things.

Spuds (mashed spuds in particular) cause me trouble. So could it be starch?

Someone suggested gluten intolerance, but I'm fine with pasta.

Ranitadine (Zantac - as I found the generic's didn't work as well) 150's once a day (evening meal time) generally sort me out. If I have a ruby with a few peppers in it, I have to fish the peppers out, though it can still cause mega-acid of Alien floor dissolving proportions.

My eldest bruv suffers mildly, though he's found his to be to do with bread, especially "processed bread" (cheap supermarket sliced loaves). He's found a bakery that produces a loaf that doesn't cause him any trouble.

The other issue is generally age related. According to my GP, the oesophageal sphincter muscle weakens as we get older, and that's more likely to let a little gut-rot out causing the symptoms we are describing here.

H2 blockers are the way to go. I personally think that Ranitadine is the best one to use, due to the side-effects, and long term effects of some of the others.

Another way to help it all is adopt the "DILLIGAF" regime to reduce stress, and the risk of excess acid, and ulcers.


sherman

13,366 posts

216 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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This condition was covered in HOUSE on sky1 tonight it had some thing to do with the pancreas .

thunderbelmont

2,982 posts

225 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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Indeed, it all does. (schoolboy biology medical recital) The Pancreas generates the enzymes that the body uses to digest food. It has an effect in the generation of stomach acid that is used to "pre-digest" food, ie: begin the breakdown of food matter into something that the stomach and intestines can absorb.

Because we eat a lot of processed foods, natural enzymes have been broken down, and those enzymes are required for proper pre-digestion. This leads to the pancreas asking for the body to start throwing more acid at the job, and thus - acid-indigestion, reflux, or heartburn.

I'm sure that Dr.P. Istonhead is waiting to give a correct gastro-intestinal lecture of how it all works, I'm trying to remember stuff from over 25 years ago!


HRG.

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72,857 posts

240 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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Ranitadine :yuk: I got every side effect in the book and then some with that nono

Current plan is to get the six pack back then get the GP to refer me to someone who understands the condition and can do the appropriate tests to establish the cause. Unfortunately for me she seems to know less about it than I do irked

LittleMiss

173 posts

176 months

Wednesday 30th September 2009
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Have you tried keeping a food diary, you may see a pattern with something.

thehawk

9,335 posts

208 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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I've been suffering various symptoms, sometimes I can easily attribute it to the type of food I've eaten but recently it's happpened at anytime and with bland food. The burping finally got too much and I had to go to the doctor.

Now on treatment for Helicobacter Pylori and am hoping that everything will clear up within the next week.


HRG.

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72,857 posts

240 months

Thursday 1st October 2009
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I'd be very interested to hear how that goes.