How close have you come............

How close have you come............

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Coco H

4,237 posts

238 months

Friday 17th July 2009
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Two people from work had it and felt ill fpor 48 hours. In the days of swabs.

Two other people I know have had it and are completely bedridden after a week. One may have to go to hospital soon - mind you they have given her antibiotics as well - which clearly indicates something else must be suspected. Oddly none of the friends or fmaily - both of these ladies have small children - have contracted it. Which suggests that it is not as virilent as it could be

I have all the signs bar the fever so I can't have it yet. I am high risk which is pain in the bum

jessica

6,321 posts

253 months

Friday 17th July 2009
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I work in a special needs school. we have had two children infected and one teacher and one parent of a child. Our LEA wont close the school and the children who are very vulnerable parents have been advised to keep them at home.
I am currently dabbing on frankinsense oil as it is an anti viral and hoping for the best.
my daughters best friend also has the flu..........

Superhoop1904

Original Poster:

563 posts

209 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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jessica said:
I work in a special needs school. we have had two children infected and one teacher and one parent of a child. Our LEA wont close the school and the children who are very vulnerable parents have been advised to keep them at home.
I am currently dabbing on frankinsense oil as it is an anti viral and hoping for the best.
my daughters best friend also has the flu..........
Lets hope for a full and speedy recovery for them all

Lois

14,706 posts

253 months

Saturday 18th July 2009
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My brother in law's niece has it, as does the husband and son of a woman i've been working with this week! Working in a hospital i'm surrounded anyway.

bazking69

8,620 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st July 2009
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A guy in the next office is off with it.

bertie

8,550 posts

285 months

King Herald

23,501 posts

217 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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I love the continued usage of the media drivel idiots tag name: 'Swine Flu'


How long before it gets treated with the contempt it deserves?


It is NOTHING to do with pigs, it didn't come from pigs, it has not 'crossed over' from pigs to humans. Even in the paranoid and hapless US media they don't call it swine flu any more.

G_T

16,160 posts

191 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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King Herald said:
I love the continued usage of the media drivel idiots tag name: 'Swine Flu'


How long before it gets treated with the contempt it deserves?


It is NOTHING to do with pigs, it didn't come from pigs, it has not 'crossed over' from pigs to humans. Even in the paranoid and hapless US media they don't call it swine flu any more.
What on Earth are you talking about?

There are broadly two types of mutations when it comes to Influenza. These are called "genetic drift", which is typified by a mutation from human to human resulting in slightly different but vaguely recognisable surface markers (recognisable by the immune system). The other type of mutation is called, "genetic shift".

Genetic shift typically occurs when the virus has mutated across species resulting in surface markers that are not easily recognised by the immune system. In this case the shift has come as a result of the cross species infection from pigs to humans. Hence, "Swine flu".

Whilst it isn't entirely relevent for Joe Bloggs, it certainly does have something to do with pigs. I should also point out that the cross species mutation of Influenza is relatively common and is one of the reasons that we have "bad years" when it comes to flu. "Avian flu", is entirely less common due to the greater variation in cell surface markers between humans and birds. Interesting it tends to be the pigs that catch it from the birds then we catch it from the pigs!

I would suggest that the media, and governing bodies favour the term "swine flu", and not "H1N1" is an attempt to reduce panic. Especially as a variant of H1N1 was one of the most deadly infections in human history.

All relatively sensible if you ask me.






KevF

1,994 posts

199 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Can you catch it from drinking copious amounts of alcohol?

Had an employee phone in sick today with Swine Flu after going out last night to celebrate his brothers birthday.........

Damn...even the pub's not safe any more.......

Dover Nige

1,308 posts

244 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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I had a "viral infection" last week which ticked all the boxes for Swine Flu.

It flared up on Sunday night, then hit me properly Monday evening. Upon speaking to NHS Direct, then referred to my GP, I was told I had a complication (asthma/chest/breathing issues). The GP prescribed antibiotics promptly and I started on them on Tuesday. I feel miles better now, just have a bunged up nose and still coughing but only lightly now. I finish my antibiotics in the morning.

Work's reaction was ridiculous and typically knee-jerk, they asked me if it was Swine Flu and told me to get a definitive dignosis as others had done so. I spoke to the GP surgery to be told it was not possible as the only way to tell was by swabbing and they weren't swabbing unless it was done privately and paid for by my employer! I let work know and they suddenly backed down and told by my temporary, temporary manager to stay away from work for two weeks and that they would record it as swine flu. Bloody crazy, I was due back on tonight, now I'll just be sat at home with light cold/cough symptoms watching tv.

Oh, my employer? HM Government....lol!!

KevF

1,994 posts

199 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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More time to work on the truck then Nige....;)
Its Spanner time...

Kev

Dover Nige

1,308 posts

244 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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KevF said:
More time to work on the truck then Nige....;)
Its Spanner time...

Kev
Didn't spot you there Kev! I've a theory on the truck and will try it out this week from my "sick bed"..lol!!

Edited by Dover Nige on Monday 27th July 18:45

King Herald

23,501 posts

217 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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G_T said:
King Herald said:
I love the continued usage of the media drivel idiots tag name: 'Swine Flu'


How long before it gets treated with the contempt it deserves?


It is NOTHING to do with pigs, it didn't come from pigs, it has not 'crossed over' from pigs to humans. Even in the paranoid and hapless US media they don't call it swine flu any more.
What on Earth are you talking about?

There are broadly two types of mutations when it comes to Influenza. These are called "genetic drift", which is typified by a mutation from human to human resulting in slightly different but vaguely recognisable surface markers (recognisable by the immune system). The other type of mutation is called, "genetic shift".

Genetic shift typically occurs when the virus has mutated across species resulting in surface markers that are not easily recognised by the immune system. In this case the shift has come as a result of the cross species infection from pigs to humans. Hence, "Swine flu"....



All relatively sensible if you ask me.
Strange, how the American TV news industry spent many air-hours informing the masses that swine flu did NOT actually come from pigs. And it calls it H1N1 in any and all references to flu, and also in the airports of that very country, on warning notices. scratchchin

Plus the medic on my ship says it also did not come from pigs. It was thought to have in the beginning, but was later found to have no connection.

Or is this some PC attempt not to offend muslims? hehe

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Superhoop1904 said:
Schmeeky said:
I've got flu at the moment, but as far as I know there's no way to tell if it's swine flu or just normal flu.

Whatever, it sucks.. although I'm felling better at the mo', am dosed up to the eyeballs with lots an lots of drugs! hippypartybiggrin
So have you been told to stay in? If so what about the people that you live with are they at risk?
He's out felling trees, can't you read...?

autotrader

28 posts

200 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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i have all the symptoms. my uncle who is my doc wont see me because he has breathing difficulties and can't afford to catch it. he has told me just to take two panadol every 5 hours to keep my temperature down(it's 39.5c which is about right i'm told for swine)and drink plenty of water. i don't feel to bad really right now. i never ever get sick and have a strong immune system. i have aches,pains and chills down my back,dry cough, sweating heavily, temperature etc i'm avoiding and antibiotics etc for now as i never take them and want to avoid unless i get really bad but i think i'm improving

edit temp is down to just over 38 after taking panadol a while ago!!

Edited by autotrader on Monday 27th July 22:33

Lois

14,706 posts

253 months

Monday 27th July 2009
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Antibiotics are very different to the antivirals used for swine flu.

I've not come very very close to swine flu but did so from behind the hopefully safe barrier of gloves, apron and face mask i've never tied so tight!

Somewhatfoolish

4,378 posts

187 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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I've got it now, bloody nuisance!

G_T

16,160 posts

191 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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King Herald said:
G_T said:
King Herald said:
I love the continued usage of the media drivel idiots tag name: 'Swine Flu'


How long before it gets treated with the contempt it deserves?


It is NOTHING to do with pigs, it didn't come from pigs, it has not 'crossed over' from pigs to humans. Even in the paranoid and hapless US media they don't call it swine flu any more.
What on Earth are you talking about?

There are broadly two types of mutations when it comes to Influenza. These are called "genetic drift", which is typified by a mutation from human to human resulting in slightly different but vaguely recognisable surface markers (recognisable by the immune system). The other type of mutation is called, "genetic shift".

Genetic shift typically occurs when the virus has mutated across species resulting in surface markers that are not easily recognised by the immune system. In this case the shift has come as a result of the cross species infection from pigs to humans. Hence, "Swine flu"....

All relatively sensible if you ask me.
Strange, how the American TV news industry spent many air-hours informing the masses that swine flu did NOT actually come from pigs. And it calls it H1N1 in any and all references to flu, and also in the airports of that very country, on warning notices. scratchchin

Plus the medic on my ship says it also did not come from pigs. It was thought to have in the beginning, but was later found to have no connection.

Or is this some PC attempt not to offend muslims? hehe
Doctors are doctors, not epidemiologists. Always be wary of thinking they know everything about disease. Same goes for the media.

51% of Pigs in North America have H1N1 (or Swine flu) antibody. I think this could be one of the reasons why it is called "Swine flu".

Good ref;

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/key_facts.htm

HTH,

G

AB

16,988 posts

196 months

Tuesday 28th July 2009
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Just got over it, still have the shortness of breath and a cough though.