Slendertone Abs belts

[Cotty]

9 hours in the gym? Sod that.

2 hours in the gym and 2 hours outside activity (cycling etc) is my limit for a week

[Cotty]

It was never my intention to bulk up. I race karts so don't need the extra weight

[p1esk]

ShadownINja said:

swerni said:

spot on.

They cause the muscles to contract hundreds of times a minute (no idea what the rate is) by contacting you are strengthening the muscle making it tighter. This in turn should lead to a flatter stomach.

But as been said, it won't reduce fat.

You sure? It'd just build a nice six pack under 3 inches of flab, surely?

I would have thought that getting rid of the flab should be the first move, and then proceed from there. One might find the muscles are fairly OK once they get to see the light of day.

Best wishes all,
Dave.

[Mclovin]

i got one for christmas and would give it 1/10 for the first go then the effect kind of wears off....i had better results spot reducing with a topical fat burner mixed with liquid cl...get on muscletalk or anabolicminds.com etc for some proper advice not a car forum...

[Frankeh]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

BUMP .....


. so whilst you won't get Abs unless you exercise to trim the Fat off, eat thin, cardio exercise etc, do they make a Stomach more Vertical ? Pull in the Paunch ?

Mate reckons its the way forward. I reckon its bks.

Your reckoning is correct.

[ShadownINja]

It will help but not much. There's no easy way to a fit, healthy body. You can optimise the effort but in the end, you need to put in a lot of that effort to get the results such companies advertise.

[MacGee]

Tiggsy said:

el stovey said:

_DeeJay_ said:

UncappedTag said:

I swim 5-6 days a week for 1/2 hour front crawl

That'll certainly help tone up, though as discussed on the other thread swimming isn't as good a cardio workout rowing, jogging, cycling etc.

Out of interest, how did you work that out?

Doesn't it depend on what strokes, speed etc you go at?

See the other thread...but in summary the body is horizontal so the heart has an easy time and most people can swim well enough to sustain a high heart rate. If you think you can the the simple test is...do you drink fluids while swimming? i.e take a water bottle onto poolside? if you dont then why not? would you jog for 30 mins without water? Get a heart rate monitor on (water proof!) and check your pulse...i'll bet its a LOT lower than you think.

I'm not a swimmer but I disagree....guess why they dont lose water thus needing drinks.....sweat....less due to pool temp. I'm sure Phelps, Spitz were lean and fit due to swimming and not other cv activity.

[Frankeh]

MacGee said:

Tiggsy said:

el stovey said:

_DeeJay_ said:

UncappedTag said:

I swim 5-6 days a week for 1/2 hour front crawl

That'll certainly help tone up, though as discussed on the other thread swimming isn't as good a cardio workout rowing, jogging, cycling etc.

Out of interest, how did you work that out?

Doesn't it depend on what strokes, speed etc you go at?

See the other thread...but in summary the body is horizontal so the heart has an easy time and most people can swim well enough to sustain a high heart rate. If you think you can the the simple test is...do you drink fluids while swimming? i.e take a water bottle onto poolside? if you dont then why not? would you jog for 30 mins without water? Get a heart rate monitor on (water proof!) and check your pulse...i'll bet its a LOT lower than you think.

I'm not a swimmer but I disagree....guess why they dont lose water thus needing drinks.....sweat....less due to pool temp. I'm sure Phelps, Spitz were lean and fit due to swimming and not other cv activity.

Phelps ate 10,000 calories a day and swam for 6 hours. He's pretty thin for someone who eats 10K calories a day ;D
Also I looked it up, you do sweat when swimming. About 600ml for every 4km.

[bales]

Though crap for giving you six packs these machines are very good for recovery / rehab.

I guess due to the design of them you can't strap them anywhere but if you are really struggling with tight sore muscles a low pulse setting on one of these cycled on and off is very good at flushing out the crap and speeding up recovery.

[MacGee]

Frankeh said:

MacGee said:

Tiggsy said:

el stovey said:

_DeeJay_ said:

UncappedTag said:

I swim 5-6 days a week for 1/2 hour front crawl

That'll certainly help tone up, though as discussed on the other thread swimming isn't as good a cardio workout rowing, jogging, cycling etc.

Out of interest, how did you work that out?

Doesn't it depend on what strokes, speed etc you go at?

See the other thread...but in summary the body is horizontal so the heart has an easy time and most people can swim well enough to sustain a high heart rate. If you think you can the the simple test is...do you drink fluids while swimming? i.e take a water bottle onto poolside? if you dont then why not? would you jog for 30 mins without water? Get a heart rate monitor on (water proof!) and check your pulse...i'll bet its a LOT lower than you think.

I'm not a swimmer but I disagree....guess why they dont lose water thus needing drinks.....sweat....less due to pool temp. I'm sure Phelps, Spitz were lean and fit due to swimming and not other cv activity.

Phelps ate 10,000 calories a day and swam for 6 hours. He's pretty thin for someone who eats 10K calories a day ;D
Also I looked it up, you do sweat when swimming. About 600ml for every 4km.

well he must drink to replace the lost fluid....or he just opens his gob and has a quick one in the pool!

Edited by MacGee on Friday 23 April 10:01

[ShadownINja]

Why don't they fill swimming pools with Ribena? It would be far nicer when you accidentally swallow a mouthful.

[bales]

ShadownINja said:

Why don't they fill swimming pools with Ribena? It would be far nicer when you accidentally swallow a mouthful.

Cos you'd come out dyed pink!?

[superkartracer]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

BUMP .....


. so whilst you won't get Abs unless you exercise to trim the Fat off, eat thin, cardio exercise etc, do they make a Stomach more Vertical ? Pull in the Paunch ?

Mate reckons its the way forward. I reckon its bks.

They work, but you have to train also to lose the fat.

[bales]

superkartracer said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

BUMP .....


. so whilst you won't get Abs unless you exercise to trim the Fat off, eat thin, cardio exercise etc, do they make a Stomach more Vertical ? Pull in the Paunch ?

Mate reckons its the way forward. I reckon its bks.

They work, but you have to train also to lose the fat.

Well doesn't that destroy the whole point of the machine? Its a bit like saying I have an amazing new machine that helps you to get fitter when running - but only when combined with regular running

[bales]

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

superkartracer said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

BUMP .....


. so whilst you won't get Abs unless you exercise to trim the Fat off, eat thin, cardio exercise etc, do they make a Stomach more Vertical ? Pull in the Paunch ?

Mate reckons its the way forward. I reckon its bks.

They work, but you have to train also to lose the fat.

Ok fair enough.
Nothing burns fat off like training and dieting.
I guess he figures it will tauten up the Abdominal muscles to like I say, make his stomach more vertical than Horizontal

To be honest the actual cardio itself assuming its not sat on an exercise bike in gym will do more for core strength than one of those machines will ever do!!

[superkartracer]

bales said:

superkartracer said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

BUMP .....


. so whilst you won't get Abs unless you exercise to trim the Fat off, eat thin, cardio exercise etc, do they make a Stomach more Vertical ? Pull in the Paunch ?

Mate reckons its the way forward. I reckon its bks.

They work, but you have to train also to lose the fat.

Well doesn't that destroy the whole point of the machine? Its a bit like saying I have an amazing new machine that helps you to get fitter when running - but only when combined with regular running

No as running does not develop abbs , have you tried one?, i used as an addition to my core work and it made a huge difference with strength.

[superkartracer]

bales said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

superkartracer said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

BUMP .....


. so whilst you won't get Abs unless you exercise to trim the Fat off, eat thin, cardio exercise etc, do they make a Stomach more Vertical ? Pull in the Paunch ?

Mate reckons its the way forward. I reckon its bks.

They work, but you have to train also to lose the fat.

Ok fair enough.
Nothing burns fat off like training and dieting.
I guess he figures it will tauten up the Abdominal muscles to like I say, make his stomach more vertical than Horizontal

To be honest the actual cardio itself assuming its not sat on an exercise bike in gym will do more for core strength than one of those machines will ever do!!

How much running do you do and at what pace? i'm doing 10k @ 18kph and can assure you the belt does add extra strength.

[Frankeh]

bales said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

superkartracer said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

BUMP .....


. so whilst you won't get Abs unless you exercise to trim the Fat off, eat thin, cardio exercise etc, do they make a Stomach more Vertical ? Pull in the Paunch ?

Mate reckons its the way forward. I reckon its bks.

They work, but you have to train also to lose the fat.

Ok fair enough.
Nothing burns fat off like training and dieting.
I guess he figures it will tauten up the Abdominal muscles to like I say, make his stomach more vertical than Horizontal

To be honest the actual cardio itself assuming its not sat on an exercise bike in gym will do more for core strength than one of those machines will ever do!!

Actual cardio? Not that fake cardio that's done on exercise bikes.....

[bales]

superkartracer said:

bales said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

superkartracer said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

BUMP .....


. so whilst you won't get Abs unless you exercise to trim the Fat off, eat thin, cardio exercise etc, do they make a Stomach more Vertical ? Pull in the Paunch ?

Mate reckons its the way forward. I reckon its bks.

They work, but you have to train also to lose the fat.

Ok fair enough.
Nothing burns fat off like training and dieting.
I guess he figures it will tauten up the Abdominal muscles to like I say, make his stomach more vertical than Horizontal

To be honest the actual cardio itself assuming its not sat on an exercise bike in gym will do more for core strength than one of those machines will ever do!!

How much running do you do and at what pace? i'm doing 10k @ 18kph and can assure you the belt does add extra strength.

I do a lot of running thank you very much, and all of it is at a great deal quicker than 18kph.

I can't be bothered going into why these machines are worth anything in terms of developing strength but you find me an endorsement from any athlete that would use this and why?

Why is it better than conventional core training techniques?

How is it specific in anyway to running?

Why do you think running has no impact on core strength, sprinting uses the core muscles more than anything!

You need to train movements not muscles, simply involuntarily contracting a muscle will do nothing, why are there no massively muscley people walking round who just use this method of training constantly then?

Muscles need to have loads applied whilst under tension, how do these machines get that tension?

As said earlier the only usage where these machines can be genuinely beneficial is when used for recovery or rehabilitation.

(oh and starting a reply by stating how fast you are doesn't impress anyone - go and say the same to ewenm)

[bales]

Frankeh said:

bales said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

superkartracer said:

Paddy_N_Murphy said:

BUMP .....


. so whilst you won't get Abs unless you exercise to trim the Fat off, eat thin, cardio exercise etc, do they make a Stomach more Vertical ? Pull in the Paunch ?

Mate reckons its the way forward. I reckon its bks.

They work, but you have to train also to lose the fat.

Ok fair enough.
Nothing burns fat off like training and dieting.
I guess he figures it will tauten up the Abdominal muscles to like I say, make his stomach more vertical than Horizontal

To be honest the actual cardio itself assuming its not sat on an exercise bike in gym will do more for core strength than one of those machines will ever do!!

Actual cardio? Not that fake cardio that's done on exercise bikes.....

FFS I meant that being sat on bike does not work your core to the same extent as running/rowing or cycling, and I was refferring to the gym goers who sit there watching tv whilst pedalling a bit on the lowest setting!