Chocolate milk
Discussion
Recently I've been reading up on the concept of using chocolate milk to restore energy, essential wotnots etc after exercise - the theory being that the protein in the milk plus the sodium and glucose in the chocolate makes for good recovery post exercise.
I was initially incredulous but, to my uneducated mind at least, it makes sense and plenty of people seem to enthuse about it.
However, my other half, who has a nutrition A-level (might not be much, but it's more than me) reckons I'm just undoing my good work and piling on unnecessary calories. She reckons it's only for marathon runners and professional athletes and says why not just drink milk rather than sugary milk?
So, advice please. The exercise in question is two hours of fairly high intensity Muay Thai training (both strength and cardio) twice a week, plus one or two gym sessions. My long term fitness aims are strength improvements and fat loss, not necessarily bulk.
Whaddya think, PH experts?
I was initially incredulous but, to my uneducated mind at least, it makes sense and plenty of people seem to enthuse about it.
However, my other half, who has a nutrition A-level (might not be much, but it's more than me) reckons I'm just undoing my good work and piling on unnecessary calories. She reckons it's only for marathon runners and professional athletes and says why not just drink milk rather than sugary milk?
So, advice please. The exercise in question is two hours of fairly high intensity Muay Thai training (both strength and cardio) twice a week, plus one or two gym sessions. My long term fitness aims are strength improvements and fat loss, not necessarily bulk.
Whaddya think, PH experts?
Morba said:
If you can allow for the milk, as a post workout drink, in your normal weekly kcal allowance then no harm in it imo.
If it makes you go over your allowance, don't have it or do something better with post work out replishment.
I'll be honest, I don't have an allowance. I just try and eat fairly healthily and exercise hard three times a week (or more...).If it makes you go over your allowance, don't have it or do something better with post work out replishment.
Is it best avoided unless I'm calorie counting then?
I believe it's important to consume protein and carbs asap after a workout to help your body rebuild and replace what's been used during the workout. There are plenty of protein shakes out there that are designed for this purpose so I'll stick with those post workout. I tend to use them if I know I'm not able to get real food within an hour of finishing though.
I used to drink chocolate milk after a work out - I probably read the same thing as you.
I think its probably something to do with the combination of carbs and protein being an almost perfect ratio for recovery, and the fact it was relatively cheap, and readily available.
As said though be careful - I used to drink "Yazoo" - I think that was about 250 - 300 cals IIRC - but something like M&S Belgian Chocolate milk shake can be as much as 600 - 700 cals per bottle - and the problem with that is, it's so damn nice you WILL finish the bottle.
If it were me though, I'd just go for plain milk - it still has some carbs in, and the same protein, but signficantly less calories - especially if you go for skim - and it's cheaper.
I think its probably something to do with the combination of carbs and protein being an almost perfect ratio for recovery, and the fact it was relatively cheap, and readily available.
As said though be careful - I used to drink "Yazoo" - I think that was about 250 - 300 cals IIRC - but something like M&S Belgian Chocolate milk shake can be as much as 600 - 700 cals per bottle - and the problem with that is, it's so damn nice you WILL finish the bottle.
If it were me though, I'd just go for plain milk - it still has some carbs in, and the same protein, but signficantly less calories - especially if you go for skim - and it's cheaper.
OK, so what bovine dairy free options are there for post marathon (or post marathon training) recovery drinks.
We don't eat meat, and avoid products with loads of additives so until now I have avoided any protein drink stuff.
After the New Forest Marathon (our first) on Sunday we had a bag of chips and a couple of pints! Not very scientific but it seemed to work
But seriously, are there any suitable options for us non meat and non bovine dairy consulers?
We don't eat meat, and avoid products with loads of additives so until now I have avoided any protein drink stuff.
After the New Forest Marathon (our first) on Sunday we had a bag of chips and a couple of pints! Not very scientific but it seemed to work
But seriously, are there any suitable options for us non meat and non bovine dairy consulers?
T40ORA said:
OK, so what bovine dairy free options are there for post marathon (or post marathon training) recovery drinks.
We don't eat meat, and avoid products with loads of additives so until now I have avoided any protein drink stuff.
After the New Forest Marathon (our first) on Sunday we had a bag of chips and a couple of pints! Not very scientific but it seemed to work
But seriously, are there any suitable options for us non meat and non bovine dairy consulers?
I dont suppose I need to tell you that a bag of chips and a couple of pints are in no way short of additives unless you are careful! We don't eat meat, and avoid products with loads of additives so until now I have avoided any protein drink stuff.
After the New Forest Marathon (our first) on Sunday we had a bag of chips and a couple of pints! Not very scientific but it seemed to work
But seriously, are there any suitable options for us non meat and non bovine dairy consulers?
The vast majority of myproteins protein shakes and the like are vegan and ones like true whey dont have as much extra stuff added as the rest. Wouldnt want to stomach it without using milk as a mixer though, tried it a few times.. yuck!
Edited by shouldbworking on Thursday 30th September 11:43
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