Lee's challenge part 2!
Discussion
I am currently trying the low-carb approach.
I think I am taking about 90-100 a day. So far so good - in the last 3 weeks I've lost about 6.5lb without any real change to exercise etc. I also find the diet fairly easy to stick to during the week. It's at weekends I find it hard!
Are there any advantages do you think to me getting into Ketosis? Would it help shed the pounds a bit quicker?
I think I am taking about 90-100 a day. So far so good - in the last 3 weeks I've lost about 6.5lb without any real change to exercise etc. I also find the diet fairly easy to stick to during the week. It's at weekends I find it hard!
Are there any advantages do you think to me getting into Ketosis? Would it help shed the pounds a bit quicker?
Stupeo said:
I am currently trying the low-carb approach.
I think I am taking about 90-100 a day. So far so good - in the last 3 weeks I've lost about 6.5lb without any real change to exercise etc. I also find the diet fairly easy to stick to during the week. It's at weekends I find it hard!
Are there any advantages do you think to me getting into Ketosis? Would it help shed the pounds a bit quicker?
Yeah ketosis is about the most effective way to shed pounds quickly but it has different effects on some people. Some find it too hardcore so a low carb approach works and is still effective. I think I am taking about 90-100 a day. So far so good - in the last 3 weeks I've lost about 6.5lb without any real change to exercise etc. I also find the diet fairly easy to stick to during the week. It's at weekends I find it hard!
Are there any advantages do you think to me getting into Ketosis? Would it help shed the pounds a bit quicker?
Personally I can do either without issue and love the low carb diet since once I get all of the carbs and sugars out of my diet, all of my craving disappear.
I think if you're not trying to achieve a goal with a tight deadline, losing weight gradually through the year by enjoying weekends has it's benefits given you'll most likely keep the muscle and shed the fat slowly.
Different horses for different courses but understanding these things gives you the option to lose weight as fast or as slow as you like!
justin220 said:
GREAT thread OC, I've only skim read but very interesting! Some great results aswell.. Keep up the good work! 
Thanks Justin! So tonight was biceps and back, although quite honestly I felt burnt out from meetings continuously through the day. Normally mental fatigue doesn't bother me but today I seemed just a little out of step and not quite in the zone as I usually am.
Lat pull down (close grip) 3 x 8 @ 70kg
Seated pulls (close grip) 3 x 8 @ 80kg
Shrugs 3 x 8 @ 35kg
Bicep curls 3 x 10 @ 30kg
Hammer curls 3 x 6 @ 22.5kg. These dumbbells were a little too heavy given my arms were already knackered!
Although it made me laugh as my arms seized up completely after it so driving my car wasn't easy!
Today was chest/tricep day and I took along my apprentice so training was slower whilst I gave him some instruction on form instead of crazy wild swinging of weights!
Bench Press 1 x 10 @ 40kg then, 3 x 8 @ 80kg
Incline flys 3 x 8 @ 22kg (dumbbells)
Incline dumbbell press 3 x 22kg
Tricep push down 3 x 8 @ 70kg
Dips - 2 x 20
And then my arms fell off and I had to be helped back to my car (ok I made the last bit up!)
I'm still losing bodyfat but my weight is mostly staying the same (91kg) so all is good although I was very naughty over the bank holiday weekend food wise!
Bench Press 1 x 10 @ 40kg then, 3 x 8 @ 80kg
Incline flys 3 x 8 @ 22kg (dumbbells)
Incline dumbbell press 3 x 22kg
Tricep push down 3 x 8 @ 70kg
Dips - 2 x 20
And then my arms fell off and I had to be helped back to my car (ok I made the last bit up!)
I'm still losing bodyfat but my weight is mostly staying the same (91kg) so all is good although I was very naughty over the bank holiday weekend food wise!
Lee can you comment on this please, the weight is starting to come off quite quickly, ive lost 4 pounds in 3 days!
6am 40 min bike ride (on empty stomach), then 6 eggs (4 whole 2 whites) one wholemeal bagel.
10am Unsalted pistachio nuts
1pm Tin of tuna with light mayo, one wholemeal bagel
4pm Gym - 40 mins weights (3 sets 6-8 reps, 2 body parts per session) then 60 mins cardio (walking on treadmill at moderate pace and static bike) whey protein shake in water with glutamine
6pm Tea - Large chicken breast or steak with green veg or salad
10pm - table spoon of fish oil, flax seed oil capsule (1000mg) and protein shake (slow release night time type) 2 tablespoons of peanut butter.
As I said I'm starting to see the weight loss, and since ive stopped eating so many carns in the day I feel absolutely fantastic.
Another question, what should my heart rate be when exercising to maximise fat loss? I have a heart rate monitor that I have never used so may as well get some use out of it!
Sorry to derail your thread slightly.
6am 40 min bike ride (on empty stomach), then 6 eggs (4 whole 2 whites) one wholemeal bagel.
10am Unsalted pistachio nuts
1pm Tin of tuna with light mayo, one wholemeal bagel
4pm Gym - 40 mins weights (3 sets 6-8 reps, 2 body parts per session) then 60 mins cardio (walking on treadmill at moderate pace and static bike) whey protein shake in water with glutamine
6pm Tea - Large chicken breast or steak with green veg or salad
10pm - table spoon of fish oil, flax seed oil capsule (1000mg) and protein shake (slow release night time type) 2 tablespoons of peanut butter.
As I said I'm starting to see the weight loss, and since ive stopped eating so many carns in the day I feel absolutely fantastic.
Another question, what should my heart rate be when exercising to maximise fat loss? I have a heart rate monitor that I have never used so may as well get some use out of it!
Sorry to derail your thread slightly.
I'm glad to see you're doing well!
I always feel far better restricting carbs too! I feel lighter and less dowdy.
In terms of heart rate monitors, most folk believe 110-140bpm is where the greatest fat burning happens as once you go above that level training becomes very aerobic.
As for you're training & diet, it looks pretty good to me! I'd recommend you stick to the same plan for at least a month, measure your progress and then alter if you're not getting the results you need.
The only thing I'd say is an hours cardio after a weights session maybe a little much. After my weights sessions 15-20 minutes of weights is a big ask!
I always feel far better restricting carbs too! I feel lighter and less dowdy.
In terms of heart rate monitors, most folk believe 110-140bpm is where the greatest fat burning happens as once you go above that level training becomes very aerobic.
As for you're training & diet, it looks pretty good to me! I'd recommend you stick to the same plan for at least a month, measure your progress and then alter if you're not getting the results you need.
The only thing I'd say is an hours cardio after a weights session maybe a little much. After my weights sessions 15-20 minutes of weights is a big ask!
Working class said:
What's your opinion on 'BCAA' tablets/powder?
I've considered it but it seems there are a lot of conflicting views out there on it so I've stuck to the old trusty whey isolate (lower in carbs).My method of these things tends to be avoid fads and stick to the tried and tested in both diet and training.
A new fad seems to come along every 5 minutes, some stick, some don't but I'd prefer to not be a tester of those new things.
Ok so I have decided to use a mild fat burner for the last month.
It contains Yohimbine among some other chemicals and is pretty mild in the grand scheme of things although it's probably potent for someone who has never taken a stimulant.
I was in two minds if I should post this but then I did say at the start I was going to be honest and open about my training and what I'm doing.
It contains Yohimbine among some other chemicals and is pretty mild in the grand scheme of things although it's probably potent for someone who has never taken a stimulant.
I was in two minds if I should post this but then I did say at the start I was going to be honest and open about my training and what I'm doing.
LordGrover said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
... I'd prefer to not be a tester of those new things.
Ordinary_Chap said:
Ok so I have decided to use a mild fat burner for the last month.
It contains Yohimbine among some other chemicals ...
It contains Yohimbine among some other chemicals ...
Ordinary_Chap said:
I was very naughty over the bank holiday weekend food wise!
I know I've blah'ed on about this before but sticking to your diet EVERY day is crucial.One w/end blowout can muck up 3 weeks of dieting!As you know a potential side effect of all stimulants is a raised heartrate,which can result in a poor nights sleep,which impedes muscle repair.Honestly
the best course would be to reassess/take stock of where your diet's going and tell yourself no treats until the job is done,and avoid 'extras'.
At least there's no more Bank Holidays!
goldblum said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
I was very naughty over the bank holiday weekend food wise!
I know I've blah'ed on about this before but sticking to your diet EVERY day is crucial.One w/end blowout can muck up 3 weeks of dieting!As you know a potential side effect of all stimulants is a raised heartrate,which can result in a poor nights sleep,which impedes muscle repair.Honestly
the best course would be to reassess/take stock of where your diet's going and tell yourself no treats until the job is done,and avoid 'extras'.
At least there's no more Bank Holidays!
I think it's because I've been fairly balanced in my approach so far and I'm losing weight albeit not at my maximum rate. I think it's a combination of things of not been in great health over the past few months and a great deal of pressure in work.
I'm very happy with my progress and my overall conditioning but truthfully, I know I could be further along if I pushed it. It's all very subjective as people around me can't seem to match anywhere near my effort level when it comes to diet and training but I know personally I have more in the tank.
Ordinary_Chap said:
goldblum said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
I was very naughty over the bank holiday weekend food wise!
I know I've blah'ed on about this before but sticking to your diet EVERY day is crucial.One w/end blowout can muck up 3 weeks of dieting!As you know a potential side effect of all stimulants is a raised heartrate,which can result in a poor nights sleep,which impedes muscle repair.Honestly
the best course would be to reassess/take stock of where your diet's going and tell yourself no treats until the job is done,and avoid 'extras'.
At least there's no more Bank Holidays!
I think it's because I've been fairly balanced in my approach so far and I'm losing weight albeit not at my maximum rate. I think it's a combination of things of not been in great health over the past few months and a great deal of pressure in work.
I'm very happy with my progress and my overall conditioning but truthfully, I know I could be further along if I pushed it. It's all very subjective as people around me can't seem to match anywhere near my effort level when it comes to diet and training but I know personally I have more in the tank.
who actually bother training/dieting with enough discipline to result in measurable levels of success.
When things start to go slowly/awry in the gym it's rarely a good idea to start adding supplements at that juncture as the law of diminishing returns applies,so
you'll be at the same stage again but just 3 weeks later!
Thanks Goldblum and I agree with everything you've said.
Lat pull down (close grip) 3 x 8 @ 80kg
Seated pulls (close grip) 2 x 10 @ 80kg
Shrugs 3 x 8 @ 37kg - My grip is definitely improving
Bicep curls 2 x 8 @ 40kg And then I could only manage 6 reps for the last set
Hammer curls - 2 x 10 @ 25kg
I was doing well tonight and had the most crazy intense pumps in my forearms! It was good fun! I enjoyed the hard work!
Lat pull down (close grip) 3 x 8 @ 80kg
Seated pulls (close grip) 2 x 10 @ 80kg
Shrugs 3 x 8 @ 37kg - My grip is definitely improving
Bicep curls 2 x 8 @ 40kg And then I could only manage 6 reps for the last set
Hammer curls - 2 x 10 @ 25kg
I was doing well tonight and had the most crazy intense pumps in my forearms! It was good fun! I enjoyed the hard work!
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