How long till the £20k Evora?
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kp_nuts said:
Cheers, I haven't actually driven an evora yet so just basing my thoughts on the stats of both cars. There doesn't seem to be too much in it
Have you had a chance to test drive both?
I have. And whilst I felt a SC was vital on the Elise/Exige (it was light and day quicker than an NA car), I didn't feel the S added much to the Evora to be perfectly honest. Nice to have but certainly not vital.Have you had a chance to test drive both?
I think it depends on what most of your driving is in terms of NA vs S.
Tight twisties, I never ever feel I need more power - the cornering speeds are scary enough without the speed the extra power would give you.
Faster, sweeping A roads when overtaking - yes, the extra power would be handy. The lower you sit, the poorer real world forward visibility you have, the more welcome the extra overtaking power (if you can put it down safely).
I used to ride a motorbike though, so the NA will always feel a bit lacking in the second scenario to me.
Ultimately does not bother me too much - the handling of the Evora is the USP from my perspective.
Tight twisties, I never ever feel I need more power - the cornering speeds are scary enough without the speed the extra power would give you.
Faster, sweeping A roads when overtaking - yes, the extra power would be handy. The lower you sit, the poorer real world forward visibility you have, the more welcome the extra overtaking power (if you can put it down safely).
I used to ride a motorbike though, so the NA will always feel a bit lacking in the second scenario to me.
Ultimately does not bother me too much - the handling of the Evora is the USP from my perspective.
s2kjock said:
I think it depends on what most of your driving is in terms of NA vs S.
Tight twisties, I never ever feel I need more power - the cornering speeds are scary enough without the speed the extra power would give you.
Faster, sweeping A roads when overtaking - yes, the extra power would be handy. The lower you sit, the poorer real world forward visibility you have, the more welcome the extra overtaking power (if you can put it down safely).
I used to ride a motorbike though, so the NA will always feel a bit lacking in the second scenario to me.
Ultimately does not bother me too much - the handling of the Evora is the USP from my perspective.
I would largely agree with that but the supercharged Evora felt equally slow! Neither car is quick enough straight line for that fast A road squirty acceleration!Tight twisties, I never ever feel I need more power - the cornering speeds are scary enough without the speed the extra power would give you.
Faster, sweeping A roads when overtaking - yes, the extra power would be handy. The lower you sit, the poorer real world forward visibility you have, the more welcome the extra overtaking power (if you can put it down safely).
I used to ride a motorbike though, so the NA will always feel a bit lacking in the second scenario to me.
Ultimately does not bother me too much - the handling of the Evora is the USP from my perspective.
Ha ha to the last comment. The cars are not punchy type quick because the gearing is relatively long legged (for some reason...probably economy/emissions), but they are far from slow in a straight line. However, come to some twisties and there is not much that will stay with them, especially on poorer surfaces, and little that is as much fun all of the time.
I do believe that for the N/A car it is relatively inexpensive to de-cat the headers and fit a better breathing intake which makes a significant difference and for sensible money is the way to go.
I do believe that for the N/A car it is relatively inexpensive to de-cat the headers and fit a better breathing intake which makes a significant difference and for sensible money is the way to go.
CTE said:
Ha ha to the last comment. The cars are not punchy type quick because the gearing is relatively long legged (for some reason...probably economy/emissions), but they are far from slow in a straight line. However, come to some twisties and there is not much that will stay with them, especially on poorer surfaces, and little that is as much fun all of the time.
I do believe that for the N/A car it is relatively inexpensive to de-cat the headers and fit a better breathing intake which makes a significant difference and for sensible money is the way to go.
Agreed on all fronts. Also easy to overlook how quick in the bends they are as they carry their speed very well. Surprising amounts of bodyroll but the cars grip is wonderful. The ride of the car is immense but it can mask the speed you are carrying and give the impression its not as fast as it is. Kind of the opposite of an Elise/Exige!I do believe that for the N/A car it is relatively inexpensive to de-cat the headers and fit a better breathing intake which makes a significant difference and for sensible money is the way to go.
INterestng comments on the relative performance. I have an S and it's definitely quicker than the n/a. I had an R8 v8 to play with last week. Generally, it wasn't noticeably quicker than the S and was slower in the corners (superb engine note though). I thought the R8 would feel quicker, on paper it's marginally faster.
My previous n/a was far from boring, but for fast roads and overtaking the S is in my opinion preferable.
My previous n/a was far from boring, but for fast roads and overtaking the S is in my opinion preferable.
I test drove the n/a & S version within a couple of hours. Wrote article on PH somewhere.
At slow speeds th n/a just felt like driving a modern hatchback but with more feedback, it's quiet & refined (perhaps too much) but lacking something compared to it's looks. I didnt really push it, but this is were the cars comes more 'alive'.
The 'S' sounds better from when you turn the key, & seems to have more urge to go faster at all speeds. It just seemed to have the power/engine to back up it's looks. It is approx 60kg heavier though due supercharger etc, & running costs quite a lot higher with servicing bills, tax & m.p.g.
0-60 times are very similar, you just have to work harder in the n/a, but some prefer that trait anyway.
Dont think anyone would be disappointed with either, provided you go in with eyes open.
P.S - If you buy through a Lotus Dealer, make sure you know what is covered by their Warranty (as for some, they may have a lot of exclusions, which they may not tell you about), get it in writing (as they may not tell you) & if you are getting a 6 month or 12 month Warranty. Despite the level of money you may spend, & other makes of car Dealers giving a 12 month Warranty for the same price, only a 6 month Lotus Warranty is Standard. Also check everything on the car is as described.
Hope you enjoy whatever car you chose.
At slow speeds th n/a just felt like driving a modern hatchback but with more feedback, it's quiet & refined (perhaps too much) but lacking something compared to it's looks. I didnt really push it, but this is were the cars comes more 'alive'.
The 'S' sounds better from when you turn the key, & seems to have more urge to go faster at all speeds. It just seemed to have the power/engine to back up it's looks. It is approx 60kg heavier though due supercharger etc, & running costs quite a lot higher with servicing bills, tax & m.p.g.
0-60 times are very similar, you just have to work harder in the n/a, but some prefer that trait anyway.
Dont think anyone would be disappointed with either, provided you go in with eyes open.
P.S - If you buy through a Lotus Dealer, make sure you know what is covered by their Warranty (as for some, they may have a lot of exclusions, which they may not tell you about), get it in writing (as they may not tell you) & if you are getting a 6 month or 12 month Warranty. Despite the level of money you may spend, & other makes of car Dealers giving a 12 month Warranty for the same price, only a 6 month Lotus Warranty is Standard. Also check everything on the car is as described.
Hope you enjoy whatever car you chose.
giveitfish said:
Blueg33 - I see your old one is back up for sale on Autotrader. Looks good value - how much would it be to fix the airbag/dash I wonder?
I think I was quoted £500 by Silverstone. It’s a dash out job. It was on my to do list when my current car came up so I discounted the price accordingly. blueg33 said:
giveitfish said:
Blueg33 - I see your old one is back up for sale on Autotrader. Looks good value - how much would it be to fix the airbag/dash I wonder?
I think I was quoted £500 by Silverstone. It’s a dash out job. It was on my to do list when my current car came up so I discounted the price accordingly. s2kjock said:
I think it depends on what most of your driving is in terms of NA vs S.
Tight twisties, I never ever feel I need more power - the cornering speeds are scary enough without the speed the extra power would give you.
Ultimately does not bother me too much - the handling of the Evora is the USP from my perspective.
Forgive then selective quote but I think the extra midrange stomp of the S does add something in those tight twisties.Tight twisties, I never ever feel I need more power - the cornering speeds are scary enough without the speed the extra power would give you.
Ultimately does not bother me too much - the handling of the Evora is the USP from my perspective.
It’s a nice delivery / torque curve but it depends on how you like to drive. If you’re wringing it’s neck and always up at 6k or more then it’s just a bit quicker. If youre using a broader rev range and doing less gear changes (which is how I like to drive twisties - maybe I’m just old) it’s quite a bit more exciting. Really is more the midrange grunt than the power that I notice.
Both cracking cars.
p4cks said:
blueg33 said:
giveitfish said:
Blueg33 - I see your old one is back up for sale on Autotrader. Looks good value - how much would it be to fix the airbag/dash I wonder?
I think I was quoted £500 by Silverstone. It’s a dash out job. It was on my to do list when my current car came up so I discounted the price accordingly. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
The desciptions short on punctuation>
Sports tech and premium pack 2010 the sports button increases throttle control and rev range and remaps esp and traction control etc cross drilled break discs with black painted calliper tech pack has cruise control alpine sat nav Bluetooth radio multi media amp and sub woofer I pod connection reversing sensors tyre pressure sensorspremium pack including leather sills and rear seats Ambient lighting and arm rest electric folding door mirrors xenon headlights central locking alloy wheels aircon abs esp sports defuser paint protection film to the front locking wheel bolts heated door mirrors rare the pre launch has all 3packs the leather definatly adds to the cockpit the car has my 12 gear and important and expensive improvement lotus motor sport barge boards have been fitted and a tubular exhaust headlights have been re laqured to fit a common issue finished in storm titanium silver over black leather 2 new back tyres bridgestone potenza car has full lotus silverstone extensive service history and has wanted for nothing in excellent condition just had major service 200 miles ago everything as it should be Next MOT due 14/08/2018, Full service history, Grey, 4 owners, £23,995
saaby93 said:
Is it this one
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
The desciptions short on punctuation>
Sports tech and premium pack 2010 the sports button increases throttle control and rev range and remaps esp and traction control etc cross drilled break discs with black painted calliper tech pack has cruise control alpine sat nav Bluetooth radio multi media amp and sub woofer I pod connection reversing sensors tyre pressure sensorspremium pack including leather sills and rear seats Ambient lighting and arm rest electric folding door mirrors xenon headlights central locking alloy wheels aircon abs esp sports defuser paint protection film to the front locking wheel bolts heated door mirrors rare the pre launch has all 3packs the leather definatly adds to the cockpit the car has my 12 gear and important and expensive improvement lotus motor sport barge boards have been fitted and a tubular exhaust headlights have been re laqured to fit a common issue finished in storm titanium silver over black leather 2 new back tyres bridgestone potenza car has full lotus silverstone extensive service history and has wanted for nothing in excellent condition just had major service 200 miles ago everything as it should be Next MOT due 14/08/2018, Full service history, Grey, 4 owners, £23,995
yep that's my old Evora,.https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
The desciptions short on punctuation>
Sports tech and premium pack 2010 the sports button increases throttle control and rev range and remaps esp and traction control etc cross drilled break discs with black painted calliper tech pack has cruise control alpine sat nav Bluetooth radio multi media amp and sub woofer I pod connection reversing sensors tyre pressure sensorspremium pack including leather sills and rear seats Ambient lighting and arm rest electric folding door mirrors xenon headlights central locking alloy wheels aircon abs esp sports defuser paint protection film to the front locking wheel bolts heated door mirrors rare the pre launch has all 3packs the leather definatly adds to the cockpit the car has my 12 gear and important and expensive improvement lotus motor sport barge boards have been fitted and a tubular exhaust headlights have been re laqured to fit a common issue finished in storm titanium silver over black leather 2 new back tyres bridgestone potenza car has full lotus silverstone extensive service history and has wanted for nothing in excellent condition just had major service 200 miles ago everything as it should be Next MOT due 14/08/2018, Full service history, Grey, 4 owners, £23,995
Seems like the current owner has looked after it well, I just found out from Matt at Lotus Silverstone he drove all the way from the north east to Silverstone for a service because they done all the maintenance for me.
blueg33 said:
yep that's my old Evora,.
Seems like the current owner has looked after it well, I just found out from Matt at Lotus Silverstone he drove all the way from the north east to Silverstone for a service because they done all the maintenance for me.
One of the pics might have a house sale board, maybe the guy fallen on hard times Seems like the current owner has looked after it well, I just found out from Matt at Lotus Silverstone he drove all the way from the north east to Silverstone for a service because they done all the maintenance for me.
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