That Little Genius…

That Little Genius…

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CharlieH89

9,079 posts

165 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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He would be silly to stay at Barcelona.
Atletico and Real Madrid are stronger than them currently so silverware isn’t coming any time soon.

Only so much humiliation he has to endure in the champions league, recent years haven’t been kind to them and their financial situation means they won’t get that much stronger soon.

Mbappe to Madrid, Messi to PSG?

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,078 posts

212 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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CharlieH89 said:
He would be silly to stay at Barcelona.
Atletico and Real Madrid are stronger than them currently so silverware isn’t coming any time soon.

Only so much humiliation he has to endure in the champions league, recent years haven’t been kind to them and their financial situation means they won’t get that much stronger soon.

Mbappe to Madrid, Messi to PSG?
You'd have to question why would Mbappe go to Madrid, when PSG are the better team at the moment.

ChocolateFrog

25,327 posts

173 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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La Liga said:
Barcelona are a long way from these relatively recent teams.



Yep, they're a shadow of both those teams.

I'd struggle to name half the current Barca team.

ChocolateFrog

25,327 posts

173 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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CharlieH89 said:
Mbappe to Madrid, Messi to PSG?
Mbappe I'd say is likely.

Just can't see Messi wanting to play in Ligue 1, it's a crap league without the draw of the States.

USA,
CITY,
PSG.

In that order of likliness for me.

ChocolateFrog

25,327 posts

173 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
CharlieH89 said:
He would be silly to stay at Barcelona.
Atletico and Real Madrid are stronger than them currently so silverware isn’t coming any time soon.

Only so much humiliation he has to endure in the champions league, recent years haven’t been kind to them and their financial situation means they won’t get that much stronger soon.

Mbappe to Madrid, Messi to PSG?
You'd have to question why would Mbappe go to Madrid, when PSG are the better team at the moment.
Proper 'big' club, the new money clubs don't hold the same cachet, anyone who thinks they do is kidding themselves.

aeropilot

34,589 posts

227 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
CharlieH89 said:
He would be silly to stay at Barcelona.
Atletico and Real Madrid are stronger than them currently so silverware isn’t coming any time soon.

Only so much humiliation he has to endure in the champions league, recent years haven’t been kind to them and their financial situation means they won’t get that much stronger soon.

Mbappe to Madrid, Messi to PSG?
You'd have to question why would Mbappe go to Madrid, when PSG are the better team at the moment.
I bet Griezmann is wondering why the hell he left Atletico for Barca as well laugh




CharlieH89

9,079 posts

165 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
CharlieH89 said:
He would be silly to stay at Barcelona.
Atletico and Real Madrid are stronger than them currently so silverware isn’t coming any time soon.

Only so much humiliation he has to endure in the champions league, recent years haven’t been kind to them and their financial situation means they won’t get that much stronger soon.

Mbappe to Madrid, Messi to PSG?
You'd have to question why would Mbappe go to Madrid, when PSG are the better team at the moment.
I think Ronaldo and Messi have made their names the biggest in football because they have been in La Liga.
Something that Mbappe would aspire to do in the future and what better team than Real who have always attracted the biggest stars in the world.
He won’t do that at PSG.

Mbappe, Messi and Neymar would be an attack I’d like to see though biggrin

CharlieH89

9,079 posts

165 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
CharlieH89 said:
Mbappe to Madrid, Messi to PSG?
Mbappe I'd say is likely.

Just can't see Messi wanting to play in Ligue 1, it's a crap league without the draw of the States.

USA,
CITY,
PSG.

In that order of likliness for me.
He still has life in him so I don’t think USA is a destination.
PSG
City
Argentina

He still has 3-4 years in a too team but I don’t think prem is for him. I can’t see him enjoying being kicked every weekend. Much more physical league the Prem.
could say he performs in the CL against English teams but when the lower side are fighting for a point it’s a different game.

Wadeski

8,157 posts

213 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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I don't think the money is quite as loose in the US right now - no attendees, and last season's broadcast games seemingly went without promotion. I would be surprised if the money is there for mega money transfers.

monty999

1,121 posts

105 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
You'd have to question why would Mbappe go to Madrid, when PSG are the better team at the moment.
£££££££££'s. The reason why they all move somewhere where their agents can make more dosh, the great 'Footy Money-go-round'

The jiffle king

6,914 posts

258 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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I don't think the MLS can afford Messi unless he takes a major cut in wages. Yes they get full stadiums (At least Atlanta United did when I lived there) but there is not the same money in the game. The games are played at a different pace which would suit Messi but I only see him going to the US if it's about his Childrens schooling

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 17th February 2021
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ChocolateFrog said:
La Liga said:
Barcelona are a long way from these relatively recent teams.



Yep, they're a shadow of both those teams.

I'd struggle to name half the current Barca team.
I haven't watched LaLiga (I should change my name) as closely for a few years.

I was surprised how few players I knew too.



Killer2005

19,640 posts

228 months

Monday 15th March 2021
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unident

6,702 posts

51 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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Another goal for him tonight, but Barca have pretty much choked on the night.

Home match 82% possession, only created 4 shots on target and lost 2-1 and deservedly so. I don’t think they even had an attempt on target in the second half, even after going behind. No real attempt to score, just an expectation that the opposition will roll over, which they clearly aren’t prepared to do.

Digger

Original Poster:

14,669 posts

191 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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I am glad I started this thread! biggrin

Haven't been able to participate the last couple years due to a lack of a Sky Sports sub . . . . sad face.

I have been reading the thread obviously, but how would you guys be rating his current & recent performances? A brief summary would be nice smile

unident

6,702 posts

51 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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He’s not the player he was, but he’s still a level or ten above most players. Being in a poor Barca team isn’t helping him though.

uk66fastback

16,540 posts

271 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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To be honest much as I prefer the football 'status' and ability of Messi to Ronaldo for a variety of reasons, at least Ronaldo has moved countries and therefore leagues every few years and proved himself in all of them, whereas the GOAT has stayed in Spain, I would love Messi to do the same in his final few years - forgo the safety of Barcelona and sample another league - I think he will regret not doing so when he retires, no matter how successful or not he would have been. He and ROnalso seem to be different personalities and I just think the moving every few years suits Ronaldo more.


unident

6,702 posts

51 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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uk66fastback said:
To be honest much as I prefer the football 'status' and ability of Messi to Ronaldo for a variety of reasons, at least Ronaldo has moved countries and therefore leagues every few years and proved himself in all of them, whereas the GOAT has stayed in Spain, I would love Messi to do the same in his final few years - forgo the safety of Barcelona and sample another league - I think he will regret not doing so when he retires, no matter how successful or not he would have been. He and ROnalso seem to be different personalities and I just think the moving every few years suits Ronaldo more.
I’m the opposite, I’d rate Ronaldo as the GOAT, but there will be bias in there as a United fan. I’m not sure Ronaldo has really tested himself. United were the top dogs when he joined, ditto Real, ditto Juve. In the first two cases he did take them up a level and his records are astonishing. As per Messi he’s ageing and his powers are on the wane, neither can carry a poor team to great things like they have done.

Digger

Original Poster:

14,669 posts

191 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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uk66fastback said:
To be honest much as I prefer the football 'status' and ability of Messi to Ronaldo for a variety of reasons, at least Ronaldo has moved countries and therefore leagues every few years and proved himself in all of them, whereas the GOAT has stayed in Spain, I would love Messi to do the same in his final few years - forgo the safety of Barcelona and sample another league - I think he will regret not doing so when he retires, no matter how successful or not he would have been. He and ROnalso seem to be different personalities and I just think the moving every few years suits Ronaldo more.
The cynic in me would also like that, if only to put a further thorn in the plans of Florentino Perez' ESL brain-fart!

epom

11,515 posts

161 months

Thursday 29th April 2021
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Did he agree a new contract in the basis they will strengthen ?? I can’t imagine they’ll have the money to do both.