Cardiff City - WTF
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Could be the thin end of a very long edge. As cash strapped teams are getting desperate for funds more and more of them will agree to this with the arguement,
"Well we either lose the strip or we lose the club,"
If you support any team below the Premiership, this could well be coming to your town soon.
"Well we either lose the strip or we lose the club,"
If you support any team below the Premiership, this could well be coming to your town soon.
This is so wrong, and incredibly disrespectful for the club and it's history (I'm not a Cardiff fan by the way).
Why didn't the Malaysians buy Wrexham, if they wanted a Welsh team in red with a dragon on the chest?
If I were a died-in-the-wool Cardiff fan, I'd be livid. But it can't be stopped as the club needs the money; I'd be urging all of these fans/supporters clubs to only buy the blue away kit and boycott the red home kit
Why didn't the Malaysians buy Wrexham, if they wanted a Welsh team in red with a dragon on the chest?
If I were a died-in-the-wool Cardiff fan, I'd be livid. But it can't be stopped as the club needs the money; I'd be urging all of these fans/supporters clubs to only buy the blue away kit and boycott the red home kit
Whitean3 said:
This is so wrong, and incredibly disrespectful for the club and it's history (I'm not a Cardiff fan by the way).
Why didn't the Malaysians buy Wrexham, if they wanted a Welsh team in red with a dragon on the chest?
If I were a died-in-the-wool Cardiff fan, I'd be livid. But it can't be stopped as the club needs the money; I'd be urging all of these fans/supporters clubs to only buy the blue away kit and boycott the red home kit
Well said. Its my home town club, i follow results and i've been to the odd game or two which is as far as it goes but i'm still shocked the owners are doing this. Tradition and history gone! Why didn't the Malaysians buy Wrexham, if they wanted a Welsh team in red with a dragon on the chest?
If I were a died-in-the-wool Cardiff fan, I'd be livid. But it can't be stopped as the club needs the money; I'd be urging all of these fans/supporters clubs to only buy the blue away kit and boycott the red home kit
As above, its all about the money. The owners think its better longer term and will attract eastern investment in the club and at the end of the day compared to the suggestion that they pull out altogether if they don't do this, the club clearly doesn't have a choice no matter what anyone thinks.
For city fans, if the investment works and they reach the premier league etc, i'm sure it'll be a fantastic achievement but i think there will always be the issue that the club has lots its identity and it may not be the same as if this hadn't gone ahead....
k the eastern man and it's favourite colours. E31Shrew said:
Apparently losing £1,000,000 a month. I guess it's a choice of no club or play in red.
If that's the case that is absolutely nuts. How does a team get into that position? I can understand that over a year but a month! It's not like they were in the Champions league and then lost that revenue. How have they managed that then?
London424 said:
If that's the case that is absolutely nuts. How does a team get into that position? I can understand that over a year but a month! It's not like they were in the Champions league and then lost that revenue. How have they managed that then?
They've not long built a new stadium, maybe the plans presumed Premier League by now? I also believe they were paying quite high wages a few years ago under whatsisface dodgy director.Not entirely sure I see the huge ruckus here. Most clubs accept sponsorship of shirts, grounds, training kit, seats in the dugout and anything else they can slap a logo onto. Even players are sponsored at most clubs each game. For a couple of hundred you too can have your name next to your favourite player in the programme!
The badge is being redesigned. The dragon was always on there, just the size and prominence of the dragon and bluebird is being swapped. As for the red kit, well I don't suppose Wrexham, being a non-league team are seen as much of a rival by most Cardiff fans.
I do get the emotional atachment to the badge and the kit, but at the end of the day you either own the club as fans (a la Barca) or you dance to the owner's tune. It's a business for most owners, don't forget.
The badge is being redesigned. The dragon was always on there, just the size and prominence of the dragon and bluebird is being swapped. As for the red kit, well I don't suppose Wrexham, being a non-league team are seen as much of a rival by most Cardiff fans.
I do get the emotional atachment to the badge and the kit, but at the end of the day you either own the club as fans (a la Barca) or you dance to the owner's tune. It's a business for most owners, don't forget.
Edited by Goughie on Wednesday 6th June 17:55
The man to blame is Sam Hammam................
Cardiff City
Having sold his interests in Wimbledon, Hammam purchased control of Cardiff City at the end of 2000, where he quickly picked up where he left off with Wimbledon. Shortly after taking over at Cardiff, Hammam controversially pledged to get the entire Welsh nation to support Cardiff by renaming the club "The Cardiff Celts" and changing the club colours to green, red and white, [4],[5] although it was decided against this.
At Cardiff he became a cult-hero with fans for taking part in their head-patting 'do the Ayatollah' chant. One such game saw him performing the celebration during an infamous 2-1 home win in the FA Cup against then-Premier League side Leeds United in 2002. This, along with other aspects of his behaviour during the match, was blamed for contributing to the subsequent violence between Leeds and Cardiff fans at the end of the match.[6]
After failing to get the new stadium plans agreed by Cardiff Council due to concerns over financial security in 2006, Hammam agreed to a takeover by a consortium led by new chairman Peter Ridsdale and including local businessman Paul Guy.
In March 2008 Cardiff City began a court case against financial backers Langston over the repayment of a loan believed to be worth around £31 million. During the hearing the barrister representing the club named Sam Hammam as the man they believe to be behind the company
Cardiff City
Having sold his interests in Wimbledon, Hammam purchased control of Cardiff City at the end of 2000, where he quickly picked up where he left off with Wimbledon. Shortly after taking over at Cardiff, Hammam controversially pledged to get the entire Welsh nation to support Cardiff by renaming the club "The Cardiff Celts" and changing the club colours to green, red and white, [4],[5] although it was decided against this.
At Cardiff he became a cult-hero with fans for taking part in their head-patting 'do the Ayatollah' chant. One such game saw him performing the celebration during an infamous 2-1 home win in the FA Cup against then-Premier League side Leeds United in 2002. This, along with other aspects of his behaviour during the match, was blamed for contributing to the subsequent violence between Leeds and Cardiff fans at the end of the match.[6]
After failing to get the new stadium plans agreed by Cardiff Council due to concerns over financial security in 2006, Hammam agreed to a takeover by a consortium led by new chairman Peter Ridsdale and including local businessman Paul Guy.
In March 2008 Cardiff City began a court case against financial backers Langston over the repayment of a loan believed to be worth around £31 million. During the hearing the barrister representing the club named Sam Hammam as the man they believe to be behind the company
dickymint said:
The man to blame is Sam Hammam................
Cardiff City
Having sold his interests in Wimbledon, Hammam purchased control of Cardiff City at the end of 2000, where he quickly picked up where he left off with Wimbledon. Shortly after taking over at Cardiff, Hammam controversially pledged to get the entire Welsh nation to support Cardiff by renaming the club "The Cardiff Celts" and changing the club colours to green, red and white, [4],[5] although it was decided against this.
At Cardiff he became a cult-hero with fans for taking part in their head-patting 'do the Ayatollah' chant. One such game saw him performing the celebration during an infamous 2-1 home win in the FA Cup against then-Premier League side Leeds United in 2002. This, along with other aspects of his behaviour during the match, was blamed for contributing to the subsequent violence between Leeds and Cardiff fans at the end of the match.[6]
After failing to get the new stadium plans agreed by Cardiff Council due to concerns over financial security in 2006, Hammam agreed to a takeover by a consortium led by new chairman Peter Ridsdale and including local businessman Paul Guy.
In March 2008 Cardiff City began a court case against financial backers Langston over the repayment of a loan believed to be worth around £31 million. During the hearing the barrister representing the club named Sam Hammam as the man they believe to be behind the company
But at the time all Cardiff fans thought he was playing a blinder.Cardiff City
Having sold his interests in Wimbledon, Hammam purchased control of Cardiff City at the end of 2000, where he quickly picked up where he left off with Wimbledon. Shortly after taking over at Cardiff, Hammam controversially pledged to get the entire Welsh nation to support Cardiff by renaming the club "The Cardiff Celts" and changing the club colours to green, red and white, [4],[5] although it was decided against this.
At Cardiff he became a cult-hero with fans for taking part in their head-patting 'do the Ayatollah' chant. One such game saw him performing the celebration during an infamous 2-1 home win in the FA Cup against then-Premier League side Leeds United in 2002. This, along with other aspects of his behaviour during the match, was blamed for contributing to the subsequent violence between Leeds and Cardiff fans at the end of the match.[6]
After failing to get the new stadium plans agreed by Cardiff Council due to concerns over financial security in 2006, Hammam agreed to a takeover by a consortium led by new chairman Peter Ridsdale and including local businessman Paul Guy.
In March 2008 Cardiff City began a court case against financial backers Langston over the repayment of a loan believed to be worth around £31 million. During the hearing the barrister representing the club named Sam Hammam as the man they believe to be behind the company
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oj121 said:
Storm in a tea cup IMO! Didnt Leeds change to White with great success?
Id rather support a team in Red than a team that was dissolved! I lost my rugby region, id rather not lose my football team aswell!
Leed schanged to all white in the early sixties in order that they resemble the 1950's all conquering Real side.Id rather support a team in Red than a team that was dissolved! I lost my rugby region, id rather not lose my football team aswell!
Prior to that they wore Blue and Yellow shirts. Their colours now are white with bits of blue and yellow. So their colours have never changed, just the predominance of one colour over others
Try telling Leeds fans that they are going to play in red, white and black and see just how far you get with that idea
(although they did used to wear red socks at times)ShawCrossShark said:
Leed schanged to all white in the early sixties in order that they resemble the 1950's all conquering Real side.
Prior to that they wore Blue and Yellow shirts. Their colours now are white with bits of blue and yellow. So their colours have never changed, just the predominance of one colour over others
Try telling Leeds fans that they are going to play in red, white and black and see just how far you get with that idea (although they did used to wear red socks at times)
Used to have a red away shirt tooPrior to that they wore Blue and Yellow shirts. Their colours now are white with bits of blue and yellow. So their colours have never changed, just the predominance of one colour over others
Try telling Leeds fans that they are going to play in red, white and black and see just how far you get with that idea
(although they did used to wear red socks at times)Feel for Cardiff fans on this one, it's not just the kit being changed, it's a whole raft of changes that go to the heart of the club.
Also another reason why they may be financially screwed, didn't Cardiff have Ridsdale as a chairman for a while?
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