"Citah have bought the title..." And your team wouldn't?

"Citah have bought the title..." And your team wouldn't?

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z4me

303 posts

170 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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So you wouldn't mind if Citeh bought everybody and dished out players as they saw fit? Think you're Toffee aren't you? What if Citeh had nipped in and bought Jelly for £10m, then loaned him out to Liverpool and they'd finished above you? Just seems wrong to me .

z4me

303 posts

170 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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I've just scuppered my own argument, you borrowed Pienaar back, of course you don't see a problem biggrin

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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z4me said:
I've just scuppered my own argument, you borrowed Pienaar back, of course you don't see a problem biggrin
Everyone loans people. We loan players out, we get loan players. It all comes out in the wash. I see no problem with an employer saying that their employee does not play against them.

z4me

303 posts

170 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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TheHeretic said:
z4me said:
I've just scuppered my own argument, you borrowed Pienaar back, of course you don't see a problem biggrin
Everyone loans people. We loan players out, we get loan players. It all comes out in the wash. I see no problem with an employer saying that their employee does not play against them.
Who have you loaned out?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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z4me said:
Who have you loaned out?
Lots of players, albeit not to prem sides, they tend to be reserve type players. Hobo is probably our biggest loaned out player at the moment. We loaned out Yakubu last year as well.

z4me

303 posts

170 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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TheHeretic said:
z4me said:
Who have you loaned out?
Lots of players, albeit not to prem sides, they tend to be reserve type players. Hobo is probably our biggest loaned out player.
Exactly, so the players you're looking to give experience to, or you no longer have a need for them, go to lower league first teams. Putting your multi-million pound striker, who's no longer flavour of the month because you've seen something brighter and shinier, with another Prem club isn't the same.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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z4me said:
Exactly, so the players you're looking to give experience to, or you no longer have a need for them, go to lower league first teams. Putting your multi-million pound striker, who's no longer flavour of the month because you've seen something brighter and shinier, with another Prem club isn't the same.
Why not? How is it any different to a transfer, except temporary? I'm curious which team you support, and if you feel that transfer affected your teams season, or not?

z4me

303 posts

170 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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TheHeretic said:
z4me said:
Exactly, so the players you're looking to give experience to, or you no longer have a need for them, go to lower league first teams. Putting your multi-million pound striker, who's no longer flavour of the month because you've seen something brighter and shinier, with another Prem club isn't the same.
Why not? How is it any different to a transfer, except temporary? I'm curious which team you support, and if you feel that transfer affected your teams season, or not?
I'm a Mag, so yes it has affected us, Adebayor, Bendnter, Pienaar, Yakuba have all scored against us. Here's a quote from today's Telegraph from good old Harry :

Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp has reiterated his desire to keep on-loan Manchester City striker Emmanuel Adebayor at White Hart Lane, but admitted wages remained a stumbling block.

So, without Adebayor's goals, we may well have finished above Spurs. Maybe you would've finished above Spurs.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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z4me said:
I'm a Mag, so yes it has affected us, Adebayor, Bendnter, Pienaar, Yakuba have all scored against us. Here's a quote from today's Telegraph from good old Harry :

Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp has reiterated his desire to keep on-loan Manchester City striker Emmanuel Adebayor at White Hart Lane, but admitted wages remained a stumbling block.

So, without Adebayor's goals, we may well have finished above Spurs. Maybe you would've finished above Spurs.
There is nothing stopping you getting loan players in.

Blib

44,300 posts

198 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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The Citeh/Chelski model is not sustainable. If the Middle East goes up in smoke or Abramovic walks under a bus, to all intents and purposes, these clubs would head back into mid-table obscurity.

As a Spud, I admire Arsenal's model. They live within their means and build from within. By doing that they have been able to challenge for top honours for many years.

Anyone can buy a League Championship. Just ask Blackburn Rovers.

z4me

303 posts

170 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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TheHeretic said:
z4me said:
I'm a Mag, so yes it has affected us, Adebayor, Bendnter, Pienaar, Yakuba have all scored against us. Here's a quote from today's Telegraph from good old Harry :

Tottenham manager Harry Redknapp has reiterated his desire to keep on-loan Manchester City striker Emmanuel Adebayor at White Hart Lane, but admitted wages remained a stumbling block.

So, without Adebayor's goals, we may well have finished above Spurs. Maybe you would've finished above Spurs.
There is nothing stopping you getting loan players in.
You must be happy with seventh then, and Citeh and Chelsea dictating who plays for who. One of the few positive things Mike Ashley has done for us is to insist on no payment in installments for players bought or sold, and no loan players inbound.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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z4me said:
You must be happy with seventh then, and Citeh and Chelsea dictating who plays for who. One of the few positive things Mike Ashley has done for us is to insist on no payment in installments for players bought or sold, and no loan players inbound.
How are City and Chelsea dictating who plays for who? Let's not go down tinhat drive, eh. Be pleased about getting 5th, and enjoy the season.

fathomfive

9,956 posts

191 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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Blib said:
Anyone can buy a League Championship. Just ask Blackburn Rovers.
It's a little early to be predicting their immediate return wink

z4me

303 posts

170 months

Monday 14th May 2012
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TheHeretic said:
z4me said:
You must be happy with seventh then, and Citeh and Chelsea dictating who plays for who. One of the few positive things Mike Ashley has done for us is to insist on no payment in installments for players bought or sold, and no loan players inbound.
How are City and Chelsea dictating who plays for who? Let's not go down tinhat drive, eh. Be pleased about getting 5th, and enjoy the season.
Oh, I am happy with 5th, absolutely delighted. There's no way on earth that Citeh would've allowed Adebayor to go to Spurs if they'd thought they would be rivals. They must've been bricking it in Jan when they looked a threat. But they did think Spurs would be good enough with Adebayor to nick points off Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal. I'm guessing they won't allow him on loan again there next season!

I'm just looking at a way of trying to make sure those clubs were cash is no object don't monopolise the league for years to come. I don't have a problem with them buying the best team, just not buying players for the sake of it so that others don't get them.