The joey barton thread

The joey barton thread

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Pflanzgarten

3,982 posts

26 months

Saturday 6th January
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What's he said now, I don't see anything on Twitter that he hasn't said before?

Worth watching/listening to his "anything goes with James English" podcast, he has his views and he's entitled to them.

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Saturday 6th January
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Pflanzgarten said:
What's he said now, I don't see anything on Twitter that he hasn't said before?

Worth watching/listening to his "anything goes with James English" podcast, he has his views and he's entitled to them.
There was posts about Gary Neville and ITV covering up for nonces.

Seasonal Hero

7,954 posts

53 months

Saturday 6th January
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Pflanzgarten said:
What's he said now, I don't see anything on Twitter that he hasn't said before?

Worth watching/listening to his "anything goes with James English" podcast, he has his views and he's entitled to them.
He is. And we’re entitled to call him a thick .

Challo

10,204 posts

156 months

Saturday 6th January
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Driver101 said:
Pflanzgarten said:
What's he said now, I don't see anything on Twitter that he hasn't said before?

Worth watching/listening to his "anything goes with James English" podcast, he has his views and he's entitled to them.
There was posts about Gary Neville and ITV covering up for nonces.
I don’t have an issue with some of his views, and I agree he has every right to them. I agree about points about some people getting jobs in media when they are are clearly not upto it, but he fails to call out men who are just as st. Only focuses on women, so from that you can see he has an issue with women.

The stuff this morning is unhinged though. Union Berlin tweeted in support of the ITV statement. He replied this





He seems to be trying to be the next right wing social commentator by being as controversial as possible. Reading some of the replies his followers are just as worse. He apparently has a new podcast right the woke wrongs biglaugh

They guy just looks a proper bellend now

Pflanzgarten

3,982 posts

26 months

Saturday 6th January
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He's decisive for sure hehe To be honest, without the added controversy of a few memes and GIFs thrown in to entirely stoke the fires, he's not saying anything the people on the Naomi Schiff thread aren't on Pistonheads.

In fact start a thread about women commentators on mens football on here and it would go the same way.

epom

11,561 posts

162 months

Saturday 6th January
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Uncomfortable truths or the meanderings of a madman ?

Think he might go with the former, think I might go for the latter.

AKjr

375 posts

12 months

Saturday 6th January
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The man is a tool - he's finished in football so he'll be angling for a grievence monger GB News slot or something similar.

Absolute walloper.

Castrol for a knave

4,716 posts

92 months

Saturday 6th January
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I think this applies to Barton, and quite a few in NP&E, courtesy of Kierkegaard

"People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought, which they seldom use"

LRDefender

159 posts

9 months

Saturday 6th January
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Pflanzgarten said:
He's decisive for sure hehe To be honest, without the added controversy of a few memes and GIFs thrown in to entirely stoke the fires, he's not saying anything the people on the Naomi Schiff thread aren't on Pistonheads.

In fact start a thread about women commentators on mens football on here and it would go the same way.
Really?

Here's a thing, start a thread about terrible commentators on football and just leave out the gender thing and you might just have a point. Making gender the focus just marks folks out as being a bit of a knuckle dragging misogynist (I.M.O).

Then add in a "few memes" about serial killers & world wars to somehow prove a point over female sports commentators further enforces my views of a knuckle dragging misogynist. Just like his followers & those that defend Barton on social media and elsewhere.

I'm sure you willl agree I'm entitled to my opinion..!!

Pflanzgarten

3,982 posts

26 months

Saturday 6th January
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LRDefender said:
Pflanzgarten said:
He's decisive for sure hehe To be honest, without the added controversy of a few memes and GIFs thrown in to entirely stoke the fires, he's not saying anything the people on the Naomi Schiff thread aren't on Pistonheads.

In fact start a thread about women commentators on mens football on here and it would go the same way.
Really?

Here's a thing, start a thread about terrible commentators on football and just leave out the gender thing and you might just have a point. Making gender the focus just marks folks out as being a bit of a knuckle dragging misogynist (I.M.O).

Then add in a "few memes" about serial killers & world wars to somehow prove a point over female sports commentators further enforces my views of a knuckle dragging misogynist. Just like his followers & those that defend Barton on social media and elsewhere.

I'm sure you willl agree I'm entitled to my opinion..!!
You are smile I presume you're attempting to get a rise out of me by aligning me with a "knuckle dragging misogynist" but if what I posted above makes you think that then fair enough-either I'm too much of a "knuckle dragger" to get my point across or you are for failing to understand it wink

Yet you appear to think you have some sort of moral high ground yet you're the one resorting to name calling. It's a strange old world!


bitchstewie

51,475 posts

211 months

Saturday 6th January
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There are usually little giveaways about the sort of st people have been reading/watching/listening to and when Joey Barton is banging on about "DEI" and "woke" I'm going to guess he's gone down that weird rabbit hole quite few blokes seem to.

Challo

10,204 posts

156 months

Saturday 6th January
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Pflanzgarten said:
He's decisive for sure hehe To be honest, without the added controversy of a few memes and GIFs thrown in to entirely stoke the fires, he's not saying anything the people on the Naomi Schiff thread aren't on Pistonheads.

In fact start a thread about women commentators on mens football on here and it would go the same way.
Since he got sacked from Bristol R, he seems to be trying to take different career path and using Twitter to be as controversial as possible. As a poster said why doesn’t he moan about everyone in football given jobs they are too st to do? There must be loads of men given job because of who they are, and not because they are any good. I mean Michael Owen has done well and he is terrible. He looses credibility focusing just on women, and he knows it brings out the dregs of society when he posts on twitter.

Some of the stuff today thought about ITV and using WW2 as a gif is uncalled for and shows him to be a prick.

KarlMac

4,480 posts

142 months

Saturday 6th January
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Joey Barton being a prick shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone that’s followed his or his families exploits throughout his career.

The reason he’s getting traction on this one is because Eni Aluko is genuinely awful at her job and has thrown the racist card at many a previous critic.

LRDefender

159 posts

9 months

Saturday 6th January
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Pflanzgarten said:
LRDefender said:
Pflanzgarten said:
He's decisive for sure hehe To be honest, without the added controversy of a few memes and GIFs thrown in to entirely stoke the fires, he's not saying anything the people on the Naomi Schiff thread aren't on Pistonheads.

In fact start a thread about women commentators on mens football on here and it would go the same way.
Really?

Here's a thing, start a thread about terrible commentators on football and just leave out the gender thing and you might just have a point. Making gender the focus just marks folks out as being a bit of a knuckle dragging misogynist (I.M.O).

Then add in a "few memes" about serial killers & world wars to somehow prove a point over female sports commentators further enforces my views of a knuckle dragging misogynist. Just like his followers & those that defend Barton on social media and elsewhere.

I'm sure you willl agree I'm entitled to my opinion..!!
You are smile I presume you're attempting to get a rise out of me by aligning me with a "knuckle dragging misogynist" but if what I posted above makes you think that then fair enough-either I'm too much of a "knuckle dragger" to get my point across or you are for failing to understand it wink

Yet you appear to think you have some sort of moral high ground yet you're the one resorting to name calling. It's a strange old world!
I'm not trying to get a rise out of you & apologies if you thought that I was.

I thought I was quite clear, start a thread regarding terrible commentators (whatever their gender) and you/Barton would have a valid point worthy of discussion. Make gender the central part of the discussion then one becomes open to ridicule & criticism.

When Barton makes his social media statements he emboldens his followers, just go to X if you don't believe me and read the comments. Barton has a large audience and with that comes responsibility IMO. Many of the comments are based around gender, or they're abusive & the authors come across as knuckle dragging misogynist IMO. Now whether you want to associate yourself with those comments/commentators or defend those comments is entirely up to you.

I'm also quite comfortable that you suggest I "have some sort of moral high ground". That's your opinion, you're free to voice that but I don't need to agree with your opinion (Just like Bartons). However I stand by my "name calling" as I think I can explain why the description fits those that base their social media comments/views mainly on gender when it comes to the ability to carry out their task their employed to do.

Once again, you are more than welcome to disagree.

rohrl

8,746 posts

146 months

Saturday 6th January
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Barton posted this -



about sports writer Jonathan Liew, a very well respected writer.



then one of his fans replied with a hackneyed and obviously racially based comment which Joey thought was hilarious.



Joey Barton obviously thinks he has more right to speak about football than Jonathan Liew but he’s clearly wrong about that.

Is there any correlation between football skill and quality of punditry anyway? Wayne Rooney and Paul Gascoigne were both fantastic footballers, much better than Barton, but have they got anything interesting to say about football?

Pflanzgarten

3,982 posts

26 months

Saturday 6th January
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rohrl said:
Is there any correlation between football skill and quality of punditry anyway? Wayne Rooney and Paul Gascoigne were both fantastic footballers, much better than Barton, but have they got anything interesting to say about football?
As I said above, try the Naomi Schiff thread on the F1 section of Pistonheads, 99% of posters simply mocking her dress sense, driving skill, lack of world championships.

They all seem to think you need to be a ex world champion to comment on the sport and it's nothing to do with her sex or skin colour (apparently).

Seasonal Hero

7,954 posts

53 months

Saturday 6th January
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I’m not a fan of Barton but….

If he holds a mirror up to you at least own it.

bobbo89

5,229 posts

146 months

Saturday 6th January
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I've just followed him on Twitter, not into football but he's proper going off on one and it's both hilarious and worrying in equal measure.

He's kind of holding a mirror up to some very hypocritical people but in a very unhinged way, he's clearly lost all fks which can sometimes be good but he's doing it to the point that suggests something else is going on and maybe someone needs to step in...

...we'll see, for now though it's popcorn.

robscot

2,236 posts

191 months

Saturday 6th January
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A man in the industry tells me its a deliberate ploy to be ‘cancelled’ to build profile/angle for podcasts and future work.

Stuff a few weeks ago didnt quite get traction, so bigger and better.

Its not accidental, its PR.

Pflanzgarten

3,982 posts

26 months

Saturday 6th January
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robscot said:
A man in the industry tells me its a deliberate ploy to be ‘cancelled’ to build profile/angle for podcasts and future work.

Stuff a few weeks ago didnt quite get traction, so bigger and better.

Its not accidental, its PR.
The same as him trying to get one of Man City's players sent off for retaliation when he was red carded on the last day of the season I guess.