Alternative to penalties

Alternative to penalties

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Shay HTFC

3,588 posts

190 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Shay HTFC said:
That sounds pretty good actually.

Stops teams just defending for the draw and creates a bit of tension watching one team desperately go for goal.
Surely the team who won the shoot out beforehand will happily play for a draw, rather than risk weakening their defense? It goes both ways. It is a bit like the golden goal rule. It doesn't seem to make much in the way of frantic play for fear of conceding.
But the team that lost will be desperately trying to score.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

205 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Don Veloci said:
TheHeretic said:
Why not do it a lá Ice Hockey? Player vs keeper, from the halfway line. None of this shooting from a spot, and keeper cannot come off his line. Keeps it as one on one, but gives the keeper, and player a chance to actually do something?
It's common to see kids teams doing that as half time entertainment but with a 10 second time limit to shoot. Got to allow the keeper some freedom of movement (They'd easily get chipped if they strayed too far) but it's probably weighted in favour of the shooter as much as penalties.

Penalties are a fairly quick and exciting way to sort out 2 hours of stalemate. Even on dedicated sports channels, or for those in the ground the show has to conclude on some reasonable schedule.
How about 2 on two then? Two attackers start on the half way line, the goalie and one defender start on the goal line. Play ends when the ball goes into touch.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,421 posts

151 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Why do we even want an alternative to the current system. It's just about perfect. It's exciting, it wonderful when you win and heartbraking when you lose, villans become heroes and visa versa, it's everything I love about football condensed into 10 minutes.

Leave my game alone!

DarrenL

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459 posts

176 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Leave my game alone!
Mr. Blatter?!

TwigtheWonderkid

43,421 posts

151 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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There only change I'd make to the game is to the offside law. Instead of 2 players from the defending team between the goal and the most advanced player from the attacking team, I'd change that to 1 outfield player from the defending team.

As it stands, the offside law protects idiot goalies who come charging out, miss the ball, and then the attacker ends up offside because he's between the defender on the line and the damn fool goalie who's stranded on the penalty spot. I'd change it so the 1 defender on the line is playing the attacker onside. Serves the goalie right for being useless.

But as for the rest of the proposed chages, including goal line technology, stuff it. I like it as it is.

fathomfive

9,928 posts

191 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Scissors. Paper. Stones.

It's just as sensible.


TwigtheWonderkid

43,421 posts

151 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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fathomfive said:
Scissors. Paper. Stones.

It's just as sensible.
Now that IS a lottery!

Smart Mart

11,841 posts

216 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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I couldn't see a lot wrong with Golden Goal. It's football as we played it as children... next goal wins.

Yes, you may get a long period of extra time but it could be really exciting.

Streetym89

933 posts

151 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Just get rid of Blatter instead.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,421 posts

151 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Smart Mart said:
I couldn't see a lot wrong with Golden Goal. It's football as we played it as children... next goal wins.
Maybe we should have jumpers for goal posts in extra time too. Or first team to have a player called in for dinner by mum loses! rolleyes

dirty boy

14,704 posts

210 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Someone here mentioned about the reducing of men too, but during extra time, rather than decide at the end of extra time.

At extra time, every five minutes a player from each side leaves the pitch, so in the final 5 mins, it's 6 a side on a full size pitch.

The players who leave are named just before extra time kicks off.

Won't necessarily avoid draws still though, but an interesting concept.

Mojooo

12,752 posts

181 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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After 90 minutes is up you move to sudden death but its no time limit sudden death - but broken up into 30 minute sections.

This would mean teams would hopefully 'go for the kill' as there is no penalties to look forward to and know they have to score to win.

This could lead to an extra 90 minutes but its unlikely as I think teams would soon tire and really want to finish it either way.

mickk

28,919 posts

243 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Why do we even want an alternative to the current system. It's just about perfect. It's exciting, it wonderful when you win and heartbraking when you lose, villans become heroes and visa versa, it's everything I love about football condensed into 10 minutes.

Leave my game alone!
Agree. Someone has to win or lose so this is an exciting way to sort the problem out.

TwigtheWonderkid

43,421 posts

151 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Mojooo said:
After 90 minutes is up you move to sudden death but its no time limit sudden death - but broken up into 30 minute sections.

This would mean teams would hopefully 'go for the kill' as there is no penalties to look forward to and know they have to score to win.

This could lead to an extra 90 minutes but its unlikely as I think teams would soon tire and really want to finish it either way.
And how does that work for TV companies, who are paying millions? How do they sell advertising when you don't have any idea as to how long the game will last. What about transporting fans away from the ground, when all the public transport has stopped running? And policing?

I'm not sure the "play until you score" brigade have thought it thru!

Mojooo

12,752 posts

181 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
And how does that work for TV companies, who are paying millions? How do they sell advertising when you don't have any idea as to how long the game will last. What about transporting fans away from the ground, when all the public transport has stopped running? And policing?

I'm not sure the "play until you score" brigade have thought it thru!
I've not considered any of those as I was only considering how to end the game fairly.

If you want something efficient for the fans and TV then penalties is probably the best way.

ady1320

160 posts

171 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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My late grand father used to hate penalty's and used to bang on for year's that it shoud go down
to corner kick's thus the more attacking team wins.

Ferg

15,242 posts

258 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Smart Mart said:
I couldn't see a lot wrong with Golden Goal. It's football as we played it as children... next goal wins.
Maybe we should have jumpers for goal posts in extra time too. Or first team to have a player called in for dinner by mum loses! rolleyes
Rush goalies?

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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ady1320 said:
My late grand father used to hate penalty's and used to bang on for year's that it shoud go down
to corner kick's thus the more attacking team wins.
Down to corner kicks? At least penalties result in a defined goal/no goal differential. Corners merely indicate who has had the opposition touch the ball last at the own end.

ady1320

160 posts

171 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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TheHeretic said:
Down to corner kicks? At least penalties result in a defined goal/no goal differential. Corners merely indicate who has had the opposition touch the ball last at the own end.
fair point

Booey

7,573 posts

181 months

Friday 25th May 2012
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Arm wrestle.