John Terry retires from International football

[Justin Cyder]

I don't know if it's a big deal or not in the context of his marriage. What I am arguing that as England captain he is held to be the professional player at the very zenith of all players in the country and as such would be expected to uphold the highest standards of personal conduct, including the vows he made to his wife.

Before god.

If you believe in that sort of thing.


Or am I alone in thinking this country is doing just fine in the morality stakes, that we are a shining beacon of moral rectitude in high office? Jesus, I've gone all pious.

[SimonRS]

Can you name an England Captain who has NEVER played hide the sausage outside of wedlock?

[Justin Cyder]

Stanley Harris.

But if I couldn't, would that make it right?

[SimonRS]

I'm not sure whether it's right or wrong, it's just a fact.

Actually Stan was a well known bender, he was VERY discreet. Also behaviour was less transparent in those days as there was virtually no media coverage of such shinanigans.

[Justin Cyder]

Okey dokey. So we have no idea if infidelity is wrong or right, then we have the not at all juvenile or playground term 'bender' to describe a former England captain.

I think I see what I'm dealing with here.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Justin Cyder said:

I don't know if it's a big deal or not in the context of his marriage. What I am arguing that as England captain he is held to be the professional player at the very zenith of all players in the country and as such would be expected to uphold the highest standards of personal conduct

Yeah....good luck with that.

[Justin Cyder]

I'm wrong about that then?

[RVVUNM]

Off now to persue a career as a Bonio from U2 looky-likey.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Justin Cyder said:

I'm wrong about that then?

You might be right, you might be wrong. But either way, you're living in cloud cuckoo land.

[Justin Cyder]

It's not possible to be a Spud & live in cloud cuckoo land. The two are mutually exclusive.

I don't care one way or the other. All I know is when I married the missus, that line - forsaking all others meant something to us. If you're so cynical that you think that's an impossible standard, then that's a shame.

[SimonRS]

Justin Cyder said:

It's not possible to be a Spud & live in cloud cuckoo land. The two are mutually exclusive.

I don't care one way or the other. All I know is when I married the missus, that line - forsaking all others meant something to us. If you're so cynical that you think that's an impossible standard, then that's a shame.

How long have you been married?

[Justin Cyder]

SimonRS said:

How long have you been married?

Really?

[Riff Raff]

Justin Cyder said:

It's not possible to be a Spud & live in cloud cuckoo land. The two are mutually exclusive.

I don't care one way or the other. All I know is when I married the missus, that line - forsaking all others meant something to us. If you're so cynical that you think that's an impossible standard, then that's a shame.

All credit to you. However, I know more than a few people who put it about a bit even though they are married.

[Scrambled]

Riff Raff said:

Justin Cyder said:

It's not possible to be a Spud & live in cloud cuckoo land. The two are mutually exclusive.

I don't care one way or the other. All I know is when I married the missus, that line - forsaking all others meant something to us. If you're so cynical that you think that's an impossible standard, then that's a shame.

All credit to you. However, I know more than a few people who put it about a bit even though they are married.

That does not make it right. I have been with my other half for quarter of a century and never felt the need to play away.

[London424]

Scrambled said:

Riff Raff said:

Justin Cyder said:

It's not possible to be a Spud & live in cloud cuckoo land. The two are mutually exclusive.

I don't care one way or the other. All I know is when I married the missus, that line - forsaking all others meant something to us. If you're so cynical that you think that's an impossible standard, then that's a shame.

All credit to you. However, I know more than a few people who put it about a bit even though they are married.

That does not make it right. I have been with my other half for quarter of a century and never felt the need to play away.

I'm guessing you also don't have the hottest sluttiest girls around throwing themselves at you either.

[Scrambled]

London424 said:

Scrambled said:

Riff Raff said:

Justin Cyder said:

It's not possible to be a Spud & live in cloud cuckoo land. The two are mutually exclusive.

I don't care one way or the other. All I know is when I married the missus, that line - forsaking all others meant something to us. If you're so cynical that you think that's an impossible standard, then that's a shame.

All credit to you. However, I know more than a few people who put it about a bit even though they are married.

That does not make it right. I have been with my other half for quarter of a century and never felt the need to play away.

I'm guessing you also don't have the hottest sluttiest girls around throwing themselves at you either.

If that was the life style I wanted, I'm pretty certain I could have it. Still would not make it right or Terry any less of a weapons grade bell end.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Scrambled said:

That does not make it right. I have been with my other half for quarter of a century and never felt the need to play away.

So have I, although it's fair to say my opportunities to do so are probably a lot less that Terry's.

Bottom line is, I don't think it's any of my business when someone else does have an affair. It's between the people involved.

If you're a vicar preaching no adultery, or a politician banging on about family values, then maybe then they should condsider their position, because their career involves the promotion of one thing while doing something else. But a footballer, captain of England or not, it's just no ones business.

[Flip Martian]

I think the England captain role should carry extra gravitas and they should behave accordingly and take the role seriously. I suspect most players think so much of themselves these days, that they can do what they like at all times and its no-one's business what they get up to.

Some of us agree with that - that it isn't anyone's business; some of us believe the former, I guess.

[mickk]

Flip Martian said:

I think the England captain role should carry extra gravitas and they should behave accordingly and take the role seriously.

Agree with this 100% but sadly it's not the case anymore.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Flip Martian said:

I think the England captain role should carry extra gravitas and they should behave accordingly and take the role seriously. I suspect most players think so much of themselves these days, that they can do what they like at all times and its no-one's business what they get up to.

Some of us agree with that - that it isn't anyone's business; some of us believe the former, I guess.

If that's true, why replace Terry with Rio, and then Gerrard, neither of whom have a record of being half decent human beings.

I could understand it if the captaincy went to Lampard, Parker or one of the others without a long history of dodgy behaviour. But Terry lost it to Rio!! Frying pan/fire.