So... Black players union?
Discussion
Where does it stop though? Do we then need an Asian players union, a South American players Union? North American? it wont be too long until you have to have a number of black & Asian players, coaching staff at your club. Im not trying to belittle the situation, its important that everyone is equal and no one is subject to abuse or discrimination based on the colour of their skin, culture or beliefs but you cant help but wonder if the way people are going about this is causing more problems than its solving.
Colour specific groups/unions/associations only serve to widen the gap between races. I don't see hoards of white players etc running off to start a white only union in light of Rio Ferdinands anti-white outburst.
How can anything be all inclusive and totally free of discrimination when you have to be of a certain type to be part of it? If this gets off the ground it will make matters worse not better. It could lead to black players not taking part in matches over grievences for a start.
How can anything be all inclusive and totally free of discrimination when you have to be of a certain type to be part of it? If this gets off the ground it will make matters worse not better. It could lead to black players not taking part in matches over grievences for a start.
There was a time in the not too distant past where it was necessary to form minority support and campaigning groups. It was an effective technique to progress against injustices that minority groups faced in society.
Minority groups still face injustice and inequality. The methods for today must encompass support from a wider demographic imo. Failing to do so is actually counter productive.
So yes. A bad idea.
Minority groups still face injustice and inequality. The methods for today must encompass support from a wider demographic imo. Failing to do so is actually counter productive.
So yes. A bad idea.
+1 Bad idea.
However...looking at it from the disaffected players point of view, to have come to this point led by presumably well off people living otherwise very comfortable lives with which it must be hard to be dissatisfied; represents a failure on the part of the PFA.
Clearly those players feel they are not being represented by their own union & have reached the point where they have to act. Anyone else going to work & getting called a f
king black on the shop floor would be round H.R. in a shot. Too right as well.
As far as I can tell, kick it out is a sop to the issue & doesn't appear to be remotely effective. The FA as usual are completely inconsistent & I would not want to be in Clarke Carlisle's shoes. Partly because he's a useless full back but mostly because it's an uncomfortable position being a black head of the PFA & standing accused of failing black players.
However...looking at it from the disaffected players point of view, to have come to this point led by presumably well off people living otherwise very comfortable lives with which it must be hard to be dissatisfied; represents a failure on the part of the PFA.
Clearly those players feel they are not being represented by their own union & have reached the point where they have to act. Anyone else going to work & getting called a f
king black on the shop floor would be round H.R. in a shot. Too right as well.As far as I can tell, kick it out is a sop to the issue & doesn't appear to be remotely effective. The FA as usual are completely inconsistent & I would not want to be in Clarke Carlisle's shoes. Partly because he's a useless full back but mostly because it's an uncomfortable position being a black head of the PFA & standing accused of failing black players.
Justin Cyder said:
+1 Bad idea.
However...looking at it from the disaffected players point of view, to have come to this point led by presumably well off people living otherwise very comfortable lives with which it must be hard to be dissatisfied; represents a failure on the part of the PFA.
Clearly those players feel they are not being represented by their own union & have reached the point where they have to act. Anyone else going to work & getting called a fking black on the shop floor would be round H.R. in a shot. Too right as well.
As far as I can tell, kick it out is a sop to the issue & doesn't appear to be remotely effective. The FA as usual are completely inconsistent
This surely is the nub of it. These guys simply do not deserve to have to put with any of the abuse that is served up to them week in week out. And the FA and clubs do the bare minimum, if that. The other football authorities are no better. Shocking neglect of responsibilities. However...looking at it from the disaffected players point of view, to have come to this point led by presumably well off people living otherwise very comfortable lives with which it must be hard to be dissatisfied; represents a failure on the part of the PFA.
Clearly those players feel they are not being represented by their own union & have reached the point where they have to act. Anyone else going to work & getting called a f
king black on the shop floor would be round H.R. in a shot. Too right as well.As far as I can tell, kick it out is a sop to the issue & doesn't appear to be remotely effective. The FA as usual are completely inconsistent
TheHeretic said:
Nothing quite like a bit of segregation to battle racism, is there? Is it just me that thinks many careers will be created from this?
I can't help but be cynical.
Exactly my thoughts. They could go a step further and create black canteens, black pubs and black parks....oh hang on, I think someone tried that.I can't help but be cynical.
Whats even worse is that this is an utterly mental massive moutain out of a molehill situation.
As far as I am concerned racism is all-but dead from British football now. This all seems to centre around one comment from one complete neanderthal idiot.
I genuinely cannot get my head around it
Edited by blindswelledrat on Wednesday 24th October 13:03
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