Should referees have live microphones as per rugby?
Discussion
I say yes. BCM (Brian Moore) was on the radio this morning advocating this approach, stating there'd be a bloodbath whilst everyone got used to it but then behaviour would improve dramatically.
I tend to agree.
I also think there is a halfway house in that ref's mikes are recorded and used afterwards by officials, but are not available on the Sky feed.
Thoughts?
I tend to agree.
I also think there is a halfway house in that ref's mikes are recorded and used afterwards by officials, but are not available on the Sky feed.
Thoughts?
Because they've not done anything to engender better behaviour from players for the last thirty years or more?
The diving, cheating, abuse of officials etc is only ever rewarded - if you follow the game then the odds are you're utterly impervious to it, and perhaps that's true of the authorities, too, becuase it's been an inherent part of the sport's culture for so long, but from outside it's nothing short of disgusting.
I'm in danger of getting on to a hobby horse here, or of sounding like my father, but the corrosive effect of 'football' culture on society as a whole should not be underestimated.
The diving, cheating, abuse of officials etc is only ever rewarded - if you follow the game then the odds are you're utterly impervious to it, and perhaps that's true of the authorities, too, becuase it's been an inherent part of the sport's culture for so long, but from outside it's nothing short of disgusting.
I'm in danger of getting on to a hobby horse here, or of sounding like my father, but the corrosive effect of 'football' culture on society as a whole should not be underestimated.
Edited by IroningMan on Thursday 1st November 14:59
The Nur said:
Pothole said:
Not necessary.
Would you mind explaining why? There is no tinge of anything to this post, I am genuinely interested to hear your reasoning is all.Players are trained to cheat from day one. Managers and coaches are complicit, the ultimate irony being managers whinging about divers without stopping the cheating from their own players.
I can't see how football refs having mics we can all hear will do anything except necessitate a 10 second delay so that some poor soul in the control room can bleep out the players' disgusting language, which is highly unlikely to change. That's the main point which needs to be addressed. Players have no idea how to behave themselves and the whole concept of fair play is frankly laughable in today's game.
This is a ridiculous knee jerk reaction to Clattenburg being accused of racism AFAICS. The FA and everyone else involved in the game have shown themselves to be unable to combat racism or deal with it with anything approaching common sense if and when it occurs.
hornetrider said:
I say yes. BCM (Brian Moore) was on the radio this morning advocating this approach, stating there'd be a bloodbath whilst everyone got used to it but then behaviour would improve dramatically.
I tend to agree.
I also think there is a halfway house in that ref's mikes are recorded and used afterwards by officials, but are not available on the Sky feed.
Thoughts?
Totally agree and like the interim approach. I tend to agree.
I also think there is a halfway house in that ref's mikes are recorded and used afterwards by officials, but are not available on the Sky feed.
Thoughts?
GadgeS3C said:
hornetrider said:
I say yes. BCM (Brian Moore) was on the radio this morning advocating this approach, stating there'd be a bloodbath whilst everyone got used to it but then behaviour would improve dramatically.
I tend to agree.
I also think there is a halfway house in that ref's mikes are recorded and used afterwards by officials, but are not available on the Sky feed.
Thoughts?
Totally agree and like the interim approach. I tend to agree.
I also think there is a halfway house in that ref's mikes are recorded and used afterwards by officials, but are not available on the Sky feed.
Thoughts?
MarkWilson100 said:
I can just imagine sitting in the crowd with my child listening to it through an ear piece and having to explain not to repeat the words he just heard!
Years ago the BBC showed a live ice hockey game on a Sunday afternoon. They went all hi-tech with helmet camera and microphone on the ref. the reception from the camera was not very good, especially when he was actually skating, but not to bad when he was stood still.At one point they cut to the ref as a player approached the ref to query a call he had made to be met by the ref saying 'I dont't make the f***ing rules, I just enforce them'
That was the last time they used the ref camera.
IroningMan said:
Because they've not done anything to engender better behaviour from players for the last thirty years or more?
The diving, cheating, abuse of officials etc is only ever rewarded - if you follow the game then the odds are your utterly impervious to it, and perhaps that's true of the authorities, too, becuase it's been an inherent part of the sport's culture for so long, but from outside it's nothing short of disgusting.
I'm in danger of getting on to a hooby horse here, or of sounding like my father, but the corrosive effect of 'football' culture on society as a whole should not be underestimated.
Not being a Footballist myself I cannot comment on the specific issues but completely agree with your remark about the effect of football culture on society. The diving, cheating, abuse of officials etc is only ever rewarded - if you follow the game then the odds are your utterly impervious to it, and perhaps that's true of the authorities, too, becuase it's been an inherent part of the sport's culture for so long, but from outside it's nothing short of disgusting.
I'm in danger of getting on to a hooby horse here, or of sounding like my father, but the corrosive effect of 'football' culture on society as a whole should not be underestimated.
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