Ched Evans

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anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Soov330e said:
She should apologise, and he should consider legal action against her for lost earnings hahahahahaha
He'd just be wasting his money there, wouldn't he.

Soov330e

35,829 posts

272 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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desolate said:
Soov330e said:
She should apologise, and he should consider legal action against her for lost earnings hahahahahaha
He'd just be wasting his money there, wouldn't he.
Of course, that's why it's hahahahahahaha

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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e21Mark said:
I'm not so sure he warrants an apology. My feeling is more he got off on a technicality than was cleared.
I agree with the first bit, and probably the second, as I didn't follow it that closely, but his actions did not change?
I'll be interested in seeing is Jess Ennis makes any sort of formal announcement now.

spaximus

4,234 posts

254 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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This case was never right from the off and there is no doubt he has dubious morals, but they weren't on trial.

He was found innocent and Ennis-Hill should apologies as should the other woman who wiped up a storm of protest. But they won't as in their eyes he is still guilty.

I have no regard for Evans, but if anything good came out of this it would be to stop young women being attracted to Footballers and agreeing to have casual or threesomes when they have been drinking. What might seem good at first often comes with regrets as the chances of a footballer marrying a person they just want to have casual sex with are slim.

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 25th April 2017
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Soov330e said:
Of course, that's why it's hahahahahahaha
I get you now.



PurpleTurtle

7,022 posts

145 months

Wednesday 10th April 2019
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Ched Evans reaches six figure out of court settlement with his original defence team.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47886412


Evanivitch

20,161 posts

123 months

Wednesday 10th April 2019
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photosnob said:
Ennis-Hill has ruined her legacy. She will always be known as the cow with the big mouth who got it wrong. She wasn't wrong to have her opinions - but her silence after he was cleared is disgusting.
She wasn't wrong at the time it was said. She was speaking in line with the court conviction that stood at that time.

I'm not sure what she should be apologising for? Somewhere the judicial systems went horribly wrong, but that's not her fault.


Rh14n

944 posts

109 months

Wednesday 10th April 2019
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6908493/H...

Sounds like another charming footballer frown

Digger

14,705 posts

192 months

Wednesday 10th April 2019
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Rh14n said:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6908493/H...

Sounds like another charming footballer frown
Irrelevant. Start another thread!

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Wednesday 10th April 2019
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PurpleTurtle said:
Ched Evans reaches six figure out of court settlement with his original defence team.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47886412
Is it standard practice to sue your solictor if you get found guilty when innocent?

TwigtheWonderkid

43,425 posts

151 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Evanivitch said:
photosnob said:
Ennis-Hill has ruined her legacy. She will always be known as the cow with the big mouth who got it wrong. She wasn't wrong to have her opinions - but her silence after he was cleared is disgusting.
She wasn't wrong at the time it was said. She was speaking in line with the court conviction that stood at that time.

I'm not sure what she should be apologising for?
Quite right. She took a stand against a convicted rapist. She doesn't have to apologise for that.

Zoon

6,715 posts

122 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Evanivitch said:
photosnob said:
Ennis-Hill has ruined her legacy. She will always be known as the cow with the big mouth who got it wrong. She wasn't wrong to have her opinions - but her silence after he was cleared is disgusting.
She wasn't wrong at the time it was said. She was speaking in line with the court conviction that stood at that time.

I'm not sure what she should be apologising for?
Quite right. She took a stand against a wrongly convicted rapist. She doesn't have to apologise for that.
If you were innocent would you be happy? I know I wouldn't

smn159

12,731 posts

218 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Evans has been found 'not guilty' rather than 'innocent'.

This means that the jury wasn't sure beyond reasonably doubt that he was guilty of an offence. They may well have thought that he probably did it, but couldn't be absolutely sure.

It was still a morally reprehensible act IMO, just not one with enough evidence to convict him of rape.




simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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He wasn’t wrongly convicted at the time though wobble


Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Evanivitch said:
She wasn't wrong at the time it was said. She was speaking in line with the court conviction that stood at that time.

I'm not sure what she should be apologising for? Somewhere the judicial systems went horribly wrong, but that's not her fault.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Evans_and_McDonald

Out of Evans and Ennis, Ennis isn't the one that should apologise for anything.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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smn159 said:
Evans has been found 'not guilty' rather than 'innocent'.

This means that the jury wasn't sure beyond reasonably doubt that he was guilty of an offence. They may well have thought that he probably did it, but couldn't be absolutely sure.

It was still a morally reprehensible act IMO, just not one with enough evidence to convict him of rape.
Not Guilty is the same as innocent.

We all have a presumption of innocence, and if we're accused of something and found not guilty, then that innocence remains 'intact'.

You're free to consider him guilty of being a bit of a rotter, and I'd agree, but the system has decided he's innocent of the charge of rape.

smn159

12,731 posts

218 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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SpeckledJim said:
Not Guilty is the same as innocent.
No it isn't

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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smn159 said:
SpeckledJim said:
Not Guilty is the same as innocent.
No it isn't
You'll have to put some meat on those bones please.

I'm not guilty of exactly the same list of crimes of which I'm innocent.

And of all the crimes of which guilty, I'm also not innocent.

Zoon

6,715 posts

122 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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smn159 said:
SpeckledJim said:
Not Guilty is the same as innocent.
No it isn't
If he was guilty then he can't be innocent?

Durzel

12,278 posts

169 months

Thursday 11th April 2019
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Not guilty =/= innocent semantics seems like a rather ornamental way of saying "he probably did do it, but the jury in this particular instance didn't agree".