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mickk

28,864 posts

242 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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jammy-git said:
mickk said:
gadgetmac said:
Not really. Walker is the best right back in the Premier whereas Sanchez isn't the best striker.
Walker was the best right back, he's st now!
Did this sudden loss of talent happen to coincide with last week?
I can't possibly say.

S100HP

12,678 posts

167 months

Saturday 15th July 2017
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Wacky Racer said:
S100HP said:
I can't see Alexis moving to City now, they've spent too much money imho.
lol!

Small change to Sheikh Mansour..

He will be a City Player within a week or so, I'm pretty sure...


I've no doubt they can, i just don't think they will.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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I think (hope) he'll end up at Utd

TEKNOPUG

18,950 posts

205 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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Squirrelofwoe said:
Helicopter123 said:
Surely if he doesn't sign a contract now they have to sell him and avoid him leaving for nothing next summer?
Outdated view given the money the Prem clubs now have. See West Brom's treatment of Berahino...


Lose his services for a year and then sell him to a rival anyway, after he still refuses to sign a new contract?

mylesmcd

2,533 posts

219 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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Alexis Sanchez to Man City is done! They have an agreement in place. Will be announced soon. #afc #mcfc

That's has just been posted by a football agent

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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m3sye said:
Alexis Sanchez to Man City is done! They have an agreement in place. Will be announced soon. #afc #mcfc

That's has just been posted by a football agent
Football agents posting on Twitter


m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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anonymous said:
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The President of the United fking states posts on Twitter

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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m3sye said:
The President of the United fking states posts on Twitter
If you have to use Trump as an argument you've already lost

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

123 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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If they sell him to a domestic rival they've lost the plot and it will say a lot about the mentality of the club - did they not learn anything from the Van Persie saga?

Glassman

22,533 posts

215 months

Sunday 16th July 2017
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The Lemar bid(s) and playing Lacazette behind a front man, on the left...

Hmmm.


Cheib

23,248 posts

175 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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BlackLabel said:
If they sell him to a domestic rival they've lost the plot and it will say a lot about the mentality of the club - did they not learn anything from the Van Persie saga?
Yup and the mooted £40mil is just totally the wrong price. If you say finishing Top 4 is worth £25mil you have to believe that having Sanchez in the team makes that much more likely £40mil doesn't look that enticing....and then, of course, if you don't sell him you are strengthening a major top 4 rival/weakening Arsenal to such an extent that it would be much less likely for Arsenal to finish above Man City.

At some stage someone has to hold a player to his contract and Arsenal really should unless they get properly stupid money.

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

176 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
Squirrelofwoe said:
Helicopter123 said:
Surely if he doesn't sign a contract now they have to sell him and avoid him leaving for nothing next summer?
Outdated view given the money the Prem clubs now have. See West Brom's treatment of Berahino...


Lose his services for a year and then sell him to a rival anyway, after he still refuses to sign a new contract?
And look where barely playing for almost 2 seasons at West Brom got Berahino- he joined Stoke overweight, out of form, and has yet to score a goal- there's no question the player lost in that particular power battle.

In years gone by, West Brom would have 'had' to accept the initial £15m bid from Spurs (particularly after the transfer request) because they couldn't afford to have a disinterested Berahino on the bench and would have needed the money from his sale to buy a replacement. Instead, they were rolling in the Premier League riches and therefore replaced him without needing to sell him to balance the books.

They were going to lose his services either way, but as they didn't need the money in order to replace him they decided to not give in to the player's demands. By the time they sold him to a rival (for more or less the same money they would have got in the first place) it was no great loss to West Brom because he had hardly played over the preceding 1.5 seasons and was a shadow of the player Spurs had tried to buy.

Sanchez is a different situation though, partly because he appears to be a significantly more committed professional than Berahino and would therefore probably still score a ton of goals for Arsenal if he stayed against his wishes, and partly because the impact of letting him go to a direct rival now could easily cost Arsenal a heck of a lot more than the money they will receive for him. Whereas in 12 months time he will be pushing 30 and a year closer to the start of his decline- not to mention there might be other clubs outside the Prem willing to offer him a contract then.

£40-50mil to lose an almost guaranteed 20+ goals and give them to a rival, when that money would make zero difference to Arsenal's transfer activity, makes even less sense than selling Van Persie to United did.

It will probably happen though, it's the Arsenal way.


Edited by Squirrelofwoe on Monday 17th July 16:40

TEKNOPUG

18,950 posts

205 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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But they did sell RVP. And Nasri. And Clichy.

Arsenal are in the business of making money not winning league titles. The idea that Stan will happily write-off a £50m asset seems fanciful.

Squirrelofwoe

3,183 posts

176 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
But they did sell RVP. And Nasri. And Clichy.

Arsenal are in the business of making money not winning league titles. The idea that Stan will happily write-off a £50m asset seems fanciful.
Indeed.


Allyc85

7,225 posts

186 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Chambers possibly off for 20 million! Prices for english players are mental these days!

Black can man

31,838 posts

168 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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Allyc85 said:
Chambers possibly off for 20 million! Prices for english players are mental these days!
You paid £16M for him over 3 years ago.

I'd say this was a pretty poor return for the goons tbh.

Wacky Racer

38,160 posts

247 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 17th July 2017
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m3sye said:
Alexis Sanchez to Man City is done! They have an agreement in place. Will be announced soon. #afc #mcfc

That's has just been posted by a football agent
24 hours later and not even a sniff in the press?

Every year you try and be ITK, every year you just look a bit silly

aeropilot

34,589 posts

227 months

Tuesday 18th July 2017
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The only rumours in the press are saying that City won't have any competition from Bayen for Sanchez, as they are reportedly no longer interested.
Which if true, means he's likely to stay for another year and see his contract out, or he'll go to City. The club would be mental to sell him to City, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did...!!

Other rumour is that we've also rejected a £6.2m offer from Sampdoria forJack Wilshere. I'd have bitten their hand off at that price....I'm gobsmacked any club has even made an offer for him!
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