The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4

The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4

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jammy-git

29,778 posts

212 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Thanks for that Ox guy lads!

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Was just about to post that he's just scored a screamer against £iteh hehe

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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It would appear the only good thing to come out of today is our season unbeaten record intact, the scousers are currently well and truly nobbing city. laugh

leglessAlex

5,468 posts

141 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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TTmonkey said:
You've won the he FA cup twice in the last five years....
But it would be nice to see those performances transfer into the League. When was the last time Arsenal realistically challenged for the title?

Forbes list the club as the 6th most valuable in the world, and every other club in the top ten (except Spurs, ninth) challenges for their domestic League titles regularly as well as going a long way in the CL.

Young talents seemingly going to waste, a team that has no spine, increasingly worse results this season, players on the way out and no big names on the way in, it's really hard to think about the (undoubtedly brilliant) FA cup success at the moment. Same with top four, yes it's been amazing to get it so consistently for such a long time but when nothing comes of it except the odd embarrassment against the likes of Bayern, what's the point of it? To get money that we won't spend?

aeropilot

34,625 posts

227 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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leglessAlex said:
what's the point of it? To get money that we won't spend?
Our owner is the 8th biggest landowner in the USA............. wink

Sparkyhd

1,792 posts

95 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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aeropilot said:
Our owner is the 8th biggest landowner in the USA............. wink
Land isn't cash

aeropilot

34,625 posts

227 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Sparkyhd said:
aeropilot said:
Our owner is the 8th biggest landowner in the USA............. wink
Land isn't cash
But he's buying up a lot of it........and I doubt its all on 100% mortgages laugh

Its only just over a year since he bought a 535,000 acre (yes that is 535 thousand acres!) ranch in Texas for $725m to add to his already significant land portfolio.




Glassman

22,538 posts

215 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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aeropilot said:
But he's buying up a lot of it........and I doubt its all on 100% mortgages laugh

Its only just over a year since he bought a 535,000 acre (yes that is 535 thousand acres!) ranch in Texas for $725m to add to his already significant land portfolio.
Makes me sick. We've become a complete laughing stock as a result of the actions of the board, parted and present.



Glassman

22,538 posts

215 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Soooooo...... Ozil and Sanchez gone, Aubameyang and Malcom incoming?

Same ole same old.

Ascayman

12,756 posts

216 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Glassman said:
Aubameyang and Malcom incoming

Dont know how you could moan at that, they would be two great signings for any club.

aeropilot

34,625 posts

227 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Glassman said:
Soooooo...... Ozil and Sanchez gone, Aubameyang and Malcom incoming?
I'd be surprised if Aubameyang comes.......I know he wants out of BD and wants to come to the PL, but not sure he'll come to us, but stranger things have happened. Am surprised Chelsea didn't try and get him last summer, but maybe his agents demands are too unrealistic?
It looks like that's what may have scuppered Sanchez's move to City?

If Sanchez and Ozil both go to Utd, then I think the rumours of Mkhitaryan coming the other way as part of the deal is more likely...?

I don't think whoever comes in/out is actually going to make much difference anyway, our problems go much deeper than that.


Glassman

22,538 posts

215 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Ascayman said:
Dont know how you could moan at that, they would be two great signings for any club.
No moaning here, chap. Just picking up on the talk around the media. That said, I'm a Gooner and the club gives us plenty to moan about.

Ascayman

12,756 posts

216 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Glassman said:
Ascayman said:
Dont know how you could moan at that, they would be two great signings for any club.
No moaning here, chap. Just picking up on the talk around the media. That said, I'm a Gooner and the club gives us plenty to moan about.
It does but you also have to give credit where its due if you pull off two signings like that then you have to give the manager a bit of credit.

Glassman

22,538 posts

215 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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aeropilot said:
I'd be surprised if Aubameyang comes.......I know he wants out of BD and wants to come to the PL, but not sure he'll come to us, but stranger things have happened. Am surprised Chelsea didn't try and get him last summer, but maybe his agents demands are too unrealistic?
It looks like that's what may have scuppered Sanchez's move to City?

If Sanchez and Ozil both go to Utd, then I think the rumours of Mkhitaryan coming the other way as part of the deal is more likely...?

I don't think whoever comes in/out is actually going to make much difference anyway, our problems go much deeper than that.
Mkhitaryan seems plausible as he's 'a name' and Wenger might feel the player will have something to prove.



Glassman

22,538 posts

215 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Ascayman said:
Glassman said:
Ascayman said:
Dont know how you could moan at that, they would be two great signings for any club.
No moaning here, chap. Just picking up on the talk around the media. That said, I'm a Gooner and the club gives us plenty to moan about.
It does but you also have to give credit where its due if you pull off two signings like that then you have to give the manager a bit of credit.
The kind of credit which is akin to a stay of execution. I'm really hoping any new signings are more to do with a new incoming manager than Wenger giving the squad a lick of paint.

TEKNOPUG

18,962 posts

205 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Glassman said:
Ascayman said:
Glassman said:
Ascayman said:
Dont know how you could moan at that, they would be two great signings for any club.
No moaning here, chap. Just picking up on the talk around the media. That said, I'm a Gooner and the club gives us plenty to moan about.
It does but you also have to give credit where its due if you pull off two signings like that then you have to give the manager a bit of credit.
The kind of credit which is akin to a stay of execution. I'm really hoping any new signings are more to do with a new incoming manager than Wenger giving the squad a lick of paint.
2 players looking to further their bank balances, rather than their careers.

Glassman

22,538 posts

215 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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TEKNOPUG said:
Glassman said:
Ascayman said:
Glassman said:
Ascayman said:
Dont know how you could moan at that, they would be two great signings for any club.
No moaning here, chap. Just picking up on the talk around the media. That said, I'm a Gooner and the club gives us plenty to moan about.
It does but you also have to give credit where its due if you pull off two signings like that then you have to give the manager a bit of credit.
The kind of credit which is akin to a stay of execution. I'm really hoping any new signings are more to do with a new incoming manager than Wenger giving the squad a lick of paint.
2 players looking to further their bank balances, rather than their careers.
Saw something on the ttosphere which went along the lines of Arsenal football club becoming a prison for players who want to succeed and a 5-star hotel for those who don’t care. Wenger in the executive suite.

TEKNOPUG

18,962 posts

205 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Glassman said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Glassman said:
Ascayman said:
Glassman said:
Ascayman said:
Dont know how you could moan at that, they would be two great signings for any club.
No moaning here, chap. Just picking up on the talk around the media. That said, I'm a Gooner and the club gives us plenty to moan about.
It does but you also have to give credit where its due if you pull off two signings like that then you have to give the manager a bit of credit.
The kind of credit which is akin to a stay of execution. I'm really hoping any new signings are more to do with a new incoming manager than Wenger giving the squad a lick of paint.
2 players looking to further their bank balances, rather than their careers.
Saw something on the ttosphere which went along the lines of Arsenal football club becoming a prison for players who want to succeed and a 5-star hotel for those who don’t care. Wenger in the executive suite.
That is very much my view. With AW having total control and for so long, he doesn't suffer players challenging his authority. So he doesn't sign big players; egos who demand success. "Winners" even. He surrounds himself with "yes" men. He doesn't sign strong characters.

If there is no pressure on the manager to succeed, then there won't be much pressure on the players either. Which is why you see performances like yesterday. They are still talented players as evidenced by the occasional victory in the bigger games but they aren't being pushed and neither are the pushing themselves. Clearly a lot of the players are unable to motivate themselves and the management isn't motivating them either. It appears to be a toxic culture running through the club that less than 100% performances are acceptable.

So if you were Malcolm, what would you hope to achieve at Arsenal? Do they have a recent track record of nurturing talent and markedly improving players? Does he even know who the manager will be in 6 months time? What vision of his future has been sold to him? Call me cynical but I can only presume that he sees his future with a wodge of cash and Arsenal have offered the most. As for Aubameyang, I hardly see Arsenal as much of a step up from Dortmund. I expect there would be a lot of teams interesting in signing him, so you'd again have to wonder why he would choose Arsenal.

m3sye

26,231 posts

201 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Ox has been terrific since we signed him..couple of games to be going buy really taking it on now and enjoying his central position...klopp has told him he wants goals and assists from him which he is doing (3 already, what was his best in a season under Wenger?)
His pressing and speed is brilliant with how we counter too

aeropilot

34,625 posts

227 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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[quote=TEKNOPUG As for Aubameyang, I hardly see Arsenal as much of a step up from Dortmund. I expect there would be a lot of teams interesting in signing him, so you'd again have to wonder why he would choose Arsenal.
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From what I've read this morning, Arsenal isn't his first choice, but it seems, no one else is that interested in him, maybe see him as toxic?
His missed this weekends game due to an off-pitch disciplinary issue it seems, so the PL clubs with some sense perhaps don't want to touch him?

If that's true, then I can definitely see him at the Emirates next season......rolleyes
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