The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4
Discussion
jammy-git said:
Who have you got left on big wages to get rid of to afford the big wages of someone incoming?
Even if you offloaded 2 or 3 to bring in 1, your squad isn't exactly large as it is.
plenty on ridiculous wages, as per the socialist wage structure - also hence our huge wage spend 3rd/4th highest in the league.Even if you offloaded 2 or 3 to bring in 1, your squad isn't exactly large as it is.
lots of s
te on wages they wouldnt get anywhere else. thats one of the problems that has existed, bar sanchez and ozil and wally who were on a tier above the rest were pretty much on similar high wages regardless of ability, injury status, age etc. now with ozil, auba and mik they are the outliers significantly in ozils case. this means younger players/frimge players are nit hungry. at the other big 4 clubs younger players are on a lot less and the best are on a lot more at arsenal bar the mentioned outliers its all very similar.wally, sanchez, giroud were all big savings, and you would have to think the net has only gone up slighlty after jnaurays changes. plenty of wages can be freeds up in cazorla, elneny, mustafi, cech, kos, ramsey, wilshere, iwobi, wellsh*t, xhaka, etc
Your wage bill doesn't look that massive - https://www.totalsportek.com/money/arsenal-player-...
A few on or around £100k a week, but I'm struggling to see how you're going to offload a load of players, bring in a similar number in order to stop the squad depth disappearing AND not spend an absolute fortune on transfer fees.
I think realistically you should be looking at 1/2/3 new players coming in over a 3 year period. You never know, players like Ramsey, Wilshere, Wellbeck might be pretty decent players for you guys with a new manager and some quality and confidence around them.
A few on or around £100k a week, but I'm struggling to see how you're going to offload a load of players, bring in a similar number in order to stop the squad depth disappearing AND not spend an absolute fortune on transfer fees.
I think realistically you should be looking at 1/2/3 new players coming in over a 3 year period. You never know, players like Ramsey, Wilshere, Wellbeck might be pretty decent players for you guys with a new manager and some quality and confidence around them.
jammy-git said:
Your wage bill doesn't look that massive - https://www.totalsportek.com/money/arsenal-player-...
A few on or around £100k a week, but I'm struggling to see how you're going to offload a load of players, bring in a similar number in order to stop the squad depth disappearing AND not spend an absolute fortune on transfer fees.
I think realistically you should be looking at 1/2/3 new players coming in over a 3 year period. You never know, players like Ramsey, Wilshere, Wellbeck might be pretty decent players for you guys with a new manager and some quality and confidence around them.
not that i have any particular inside info, id take the figures on there with a huge pinch of salt.A few on or around £100k a week, but I'm struggling to see how you're going to offload a load of players, bring in a similar number in order to stop the squad depth disappearing AND not spend an absolute fortune on transfer fees.
I think realistically you should be looking at 1/2/3 new players coming in over a 3 year period. You never know, players like Ramsey, Wilshere, Wellbeck might be pretty decent players for you guys with a new manager and some quality and confidence around them.
the ones that look odd straightaway are chambers, holding and jack as resonable sources have said they are on far more, a lot more and a fair bit more respectively than that
m3sye said:
Cut his hair, put some glasses on him...It would be like he never went away.
m3sye said:
I'd be delighted but am not holding my breath till i hear it from AFC.anniesdad said:
m3sye said:
Cut his hair, put some glasses on him...It would be like he never went away.
king embarrassment that makes Moyes appointment at Utd look like a stroke of genius.........StonedRollin said:
aeropilot said:
That could turn out to be either a genius appointment (like AW 22 years ago) or a major fking embarrassment that makes Moyes appointment at Utd look like a stroke of genius.........
So long as it isn't Bodge! king embarrassment that makes Moyes appointment at Utd look like a stroke of genius.........Rumour reports suggest though that he was intent (hoping/praying more like) for the Chelsea job until he pissed the club off regarding comments he made about a Chelsea player he has on loan at Celtic.
Despite him being ex-youth team coach there, I'd be gobsmacked if RA was silly enough to bring him back as 1st team coach.
Edited by aeropilot on Tuesday 1st May 14:12
aeropilot said:
Indeed.
Rumour reports suggest though that he was intent (hoping/praying more like) for the Chelsea job until he pissed the club off regarding made about a Chelsea player he has on loan at Celtic.
Despite him being ex-youth team coach there, I'd be gobsmacked if RA was silly enough to bring him back as 1st team coach.
I'd be surprised if any of the top 6 clubs appointed Bodge to be honest. I know he has done well in Scotland, but up against who and in a league that is more akin to Championship at best. When you take a step back it is difficult to step back up to a top end top flight club. Rumour reports suggest though that he was intent (hoping/praying more like) for the Chelsea job until he pissed the club off regarding made about a Chelsea player he has on loan at Celtic.
Despite him being ex-youth team coach there, I'd be gobsmacked if RA was silly enough to bring him back as 1st team coach.
jammy-git said:
You guys are weird.
Adamant you don't want a guy who has already managed at a top six club, nearly one the PL and has broke records whilst winning everything domestically up in Scotland.
Yet more than happy to take a guy who has no experience of doing any of that.
Alternatively he managed a top 6 club and won nothing as nearly doesn't count and you could argue that the nearly was largely due to the exceptional Suarez. Adamant you don't want a guy who has already managed at a top six club, nearly one the PL and has broke records whilst winning everything domestically up in Scotland.
Yet more than happy to take a guy who has no experience of doing any of that.
Scottish premiership is a one horse race so absoutely no comparison as Celtic have the financial clout of every other club in the league added together.
Sure, you could say that. You could also say that several managers didn't have Liverpool competing nearly as much as BR did and you still need to set up the team to get the most out of the players. For instance, Moyes had a decent enough team at Utd but did pretty badly, LVG didn't do much better.
FWIW, I don't think BR is the calibre of manager that you need. Nor do I think Buvac is the right roll of the dice either. You wouldn't go into a PL season with a youth prospect as your star striker which is effectively what you'd be doing by appointing someone with no head coach experience. Sure it might work out every once in a while, but I bet it fails more times than it succeeds.
You guys really need to be appointing an Ancellotti or Enrique. Someone you can have a little more assurance with. The wrong move after Wenger could set you back years! Just look at Utd, it's taken them 5 years to get back to being even remotely close to challenging in the top four again and they're the richest club in the world, spending hundreds of millions in the process.
FWIW, I don't think BR is the calibre of manager that you need. Nor do I think Buvac is the right roll of the dice either. You wouldn't go into a PL season with a youth prospect as your star striker which is effectively what you'd be doing by appointing someone with no head coach experience. Sure it might work out every once in a while, but I bet it fails more times than it succeeds.
You guys really need to be appointing an Ancellotti or Enrique. Someone you can have a little more assurance with. The wrong move after Wenger could set you back years! Just look at Utd, it's taken them 5 years to get back to being even remotely close to challenging in the top four again and they're the richest club in the world, spending hundreds of millions in the process.
StonedRollin said:
jammy-git said:
You guys are weird.
Adamant you don't want a guy who has already managed at a top six club, nearly one the PL and has broke records whilst winning everything domestically up in Scotland.
Yet more than happy to take a guy who has no experience of doing any of that.
Alternatively he managed a top 6 club and won nothing as nearly doesn't count and you could argue that the nearly was largely due to the exceptional Suarez. Adamant you don't want a guy who has already managed at a top six club, nearly one the PL and has broke records whilst winning everything domestically up in Scotland.
Yet more than happy to take a guy who has no experience of doing any of that.
Scottish premiership is a one horse race so absoutely no comparison as Celtic have the financial clout of every other club in the league added together.
I really don't want an unknown entity appointed but I have a feeling that's what will happen.......
Bodge would be a disaster IMHO, a lucky 2nd place on the back of Biteman's performances is not what we should be looking at.
I'd rather see an interim safe pair of hands for a couple of seasons, to get over the immediate post-Wenger era.
jammy-git said:
You guys are weird.
Adamant you don't want a guy who has already managed at a top six club, nearly one the PL and has broke records whilst winning everything domestically up in Scotland.
Yet more than happy to take a guy who has no experience of doing any of that.
i could win the spl with my nephews under 5's team...Adamant you don't want a guy who has already managed at a top six club, nearly one the PL and has broke records whilst winning everything domestically up in Scotland.
Yet more than happy to take a guy who has no experience of doing any of that.
jammy-git said:
Sure, you could say that. You could also say that several managers didn't have Liverpool competing nearly as much as BR did and you still need to set up the team to get the most out of the players. For instance, Moyes had a decent enough team at Utd but did pretty badly, LVG didn't do much better.
FWIW, I don't think BR is the calibre of manager that you need. Nor do I think Buvac is the right roll of the dice either. You wouldn't go into a PL season with a youth prospect as your star striker which is effectively what you'd be doing by appointing someone with no head coach experience. Sure it might work out every once in a while, but I bet it fails more times than it succeeds.
You guys really need to be appointing an Ancellotti or Enrique. Someone you can have a little more assurance with. The wrong move after Wenger could set you back years! Just look at Utd, it's taken them 5 years to get back to being even remotely close to challenging in the top four again and they're the richest club in the world, spending hundreds of millions in the process.
Was Bodge not the first post-war LFC manager to win nothing in his first 3 years as manager? Regardless, i don't think he's the right person for the job. FWIW, I don't think BR is the calibre of manager that you need. Nor do I think Buvac is the right roll of the dice either. You wouldn't go into a PL season with a youth prospect as your star striker which is effectively what you'd be doing by appointing someone with no head coach experience. Sure it might work out every once in a while, but I bet it fails more times than it succeeds.
You guys really need to be appointing an Ancellotti or Enrique. Someone you can have a little more assurance with. The wrong move after Wenger could set you back years! Just look at Utd, it's taken them 5 years to get back to being even remotely close to challenging in the top four again and they're the richest club in the world, spending hundreds of millions in the process.
I think we will likely stagnate in 6th place for a couple of seasons because we need a defensive overhaul and a lot of dead wood cleared out and that won't happen overnight especially with it being a WC year as that makes player dealings all the harder.
Not sure comparing the post AW era to that of the post SAF era is fair. SAF was a serial league winner/competer and left an aging team that needed overhauled despite being champions. We haven't competed in the league in any shape or form for ~10 years so expectations are totally different despite the overhaul we need too.
Buvac appeals to me more than the likes of a Vieira or Arteta as he has considerably more experience - even if as a #2. Not that i'd be disappointed if they were appointed but I'm not convinced about Ancelotti or Enrique as i don't know if they'd put the rocket up some of our players that i think is needed. I'd rather have an Allegri or Simeone but i don't think either of them will come.
Anyways, all paper talk until something is announced but if it was Buvac then i'd be quite happy with that.
StonedRollin said:
Buvac appeals to me more than the likes of a Vieira or Arteta as he has considerably more experience - even if as a #2. Not that i'd be disappointed if they were appointed but I'm not convinced about Ancelotti or Enrique as i don't know if they'd put the rocket up some of our players that i think is needed. I'd rather have an Allegri or Simeone but i don't think either of them will come.
Anyways, all paper talk until something is announced but if it was Buvac then i'd be quite happy with that.
Apparently he's an excellent coach, and if he plays a style similar to Klopp I'd be pretty happy with that. Anyways, all paper talk until something is announced but if it was Buvac then i'd be quite happy with that.
I highly doubt we'll get anything solid for weeks and weeks though.
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