The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4
Discussion
aeropilot said:
tigerkoi said:
just stating that in comparison to some unknown rich “mining billionaire” from a place no one has ever heard of suddenly taking over a club
Yes, but more than likely that in that place no one has ever heard of, that now billionaire, was a kid on a bit of scrub land kicking a ball around with his mates.......Not something that could ever be applied to Silent Stan or his son.
I’m not pro or anti Kroenke. But at least you know about him. His dealings are public. The opprobrium that comes his way is based - people will argue - on what is publically known about how he conducts business. Bad as it might seem, surely that’s a better place to start than some guy who comes out of nowhere, waves a scarf between his arms to a roaring crowd, then....
We’re only arguing the point because we think Arsenal as a club is too precious to just drift down the leagues. A club with such rich history. However I don’t believe many billionaires genuinely care what supporters think - even if they have kicked a ball as a kid. So in essence, who’s to say there’s a real messiah out there for AFC.
That sunny dome! those caves of ice!
And all who heard should see them there,
And all should cry, Beware! Beware!
His flashing eyes, his floating hair!
Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread
For he on honey-dew hath fed,
And drunk the milk of Paradise!
re: forwards it was a strategic priority to sign two new strikers simply because there is currently a lack of top strikers globally and prices to sign such strikers (if you can get them to sign for you) are only going one way.
defenders on the other hand are currently easier problems to solve, which will be ably demonstrated during the summer window.
defenders on the other hand are currently easier problems to solve, which will be ably demonstrated during the summer window.
aeropilot said:
NordicCrankShaft said:
Rumours abound also that Mislintat will be off/wants out by the end of the month.
Hmmmnnnnnn.........that would be strange, and indicate all is still not well in the clubs new structure.Hey ho..........
Glassman said:
aeropilot said:
NordicCrankShaft said:
Rumours abound also that Mislintat will be off/wants out by the end of the month.
Hmmmnnnnnn.........that would be strange, and indicate all is still not well in the clubs new structure.Hey ho..........
That article says "Given Arsenal’s well-documented financial constrictions..."
Are you still constrained by finances, even now? I thought the stadium was all paid up and it was full steam ahead. I also thought you had hundreds of millions sitting in the bank that Wenger never spent.
When is this "financial constriction" due to actually end? The whole point of the new stadium was that one day you would be competing with the big boys for the very top signings which meant you'd be paying top dollar. The Emirates has been open since 2006, 13 years this summer.
Are you still constrained by finances, even now? I thought the stadium was all paid up and it was full steam ahead. I also thought you had hundreds of millions sitting in the bank that Wenger never spent.
When is this "financial constriction" due to actually end? The whole point of the new stadium was that one day you would be competing with the big boys for the very top signings which meant you'd be paying top dollar. The Emirates has been open since 2006, 13 years this summer.
Article said:
In the words of one agent with connections to the club: “There was no unifying vision. Steak is great. Apples are great. But who wants apple steak?”
If I'm reading this right, Mislintat was getting on with it (Auba, Leno, Lichsteiner etc) but Gazidis did the offski which led to Sanllehí getting promoted, and thus became Mislintat's boss. Emery wanted more of a say in matters and Sanllehi backed him up; cue: pursuit of Denis Suarez. Mislintat said, 'laters'. In German, obvs.
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I suspect that a large part of Sven's exit is based purely on the fact that there is little point being 'head of recruitment' if you're not going to recruit anybody. It must be very hard identifying targets that you feel can make a real difference to the squad, to then be told nope.
He must have looked at Arsenal's historically tight purse strings and realised this before he signed for us though.
He must have looked at Arsenal's historically tight purse strings and realised this before he signed for us though.
Ozil told to leave
- Emery has suggested to Mesut Ozil that it would be best for him to leave the club
- The board feels that they would like him to move on.
- “I think that’s mainly financially driven"
Bizarre from the board. Absolutely bizarre.
- Emery has suggested to Mesut Ozil that it would be best for him to leave the club
- The board feels that they would like him to move on.
- “I think that’s mainly financially driven"
Bizarre from the board. Absolutely bizarre.
cbmotorsport said:
Ozil just doesn't fit into Emery's way of playing. He doesn't work hard enough, he's not physical enough, he doesn't press the ball.
The board aren't going to pay him £300k a week to do nothing, so they suggest he leaves. I don't think that's bizarre at all.
You don't think it's bizarre to sign a player on a contract more than double the wage of anything previous, when our income is dropping, then push him out less than a year later? The board aren't going to pay him £300k a week to do nothing, so they suggest he leaves. I don't think that's bizarre at all.
When Emery was brought on board, heavy reference was made to his in depth knowledge and plans for squad. Ramsey is good at pressing, arguably perfect for Emerys style, but clearly the board don't fancy that.
Seems like the club are back to firefighting with no forward planning.
It does put them in a very awkward position, if he chooses to sit it out and take his £300k a week there very little they can do, he has no international career to worry about and much like agent Jenkinson, still on £45/50k a week depending where you look, can just sit there as no one else in there right mind would pay more than £100k for Ozil..
no based on the media reports Ive read, hes concerned his position/influence is being eroded by the pursuit of a technical director, edu. he seems to want more power than clubs want to give him for whatever reason.
thats the trigger
personally i think the media are overplaying this hugely just to get at us. yes im sure hes a good scout, but dortmund didnt back him ultimately.
he spotted some talent, but has he really unearthed any gems? Dembele and auba (the most widely quoted)for example, were known in europe well enough before dortmund signed them, at st eteinne and rennes respectively, but no one took a gamble on them that they could do it in a better league, dortmund did. sven hardly discovered them. another club would have taken the same gamble at some point, and such was dortmunds financial situation thats the sort of club they are, taking gambles on 'secondary' talent that is doing the business in weaker leagues but unproven in the top leagues.
i think raul sanlehi is perfectly capable of picking up the pieces along with who,ever replaces sven (if he does leave).
it does bring valid questions about the planning behind the scenes though and the ultimate strategy, but i guess they see a gap that needs filling by a technical director and are comfortable enough to believe its more important than keeping sven sweet.
I trust raul as he is actually someone who knows about football, unlike IG who was a c***t
thats the trigger
personally i think the media are overplaying this hugely just to get at us. yes im sure hes a good scout, but dortmund didnt back him ultimately.
he spotted some talent, but has he really unearthed any gems? Dembele and auba (the most widely quoted)for example, were known in europe well enough before dortmund signed them, at st eteinne and rennes respectively, but no one took a gamble on them that they could do it in a better league, dortmund did. sven hardly discovered them. another club would have taken the same gamble at some point, and such was dortmunds financial situation thats the sort of club they are, taking gambles on 'secondary' talent that is doing the business in weaker leagues but unproven in the top leagues.
i think raul sanlehi is perfectly capable of picking up the pieces along with who,ever replaces sven (if he does leave).
it does bring valid questions about the planning behind the scenes though and the ultimate strategy, but i guess they see a gap that needs filling by a technical director and are comfortable enough to believe its more important than keeping sven sweet.
I trust raul as he is actually someone who knows about football, unlike IG who was a c***t
IrateNinja said:
cbmotorsport said:
Ozil just doesn't fit into Emery's way of playing. He doesn't work hard enough, he's not physical enough, he doesn't press the ball.
The board aren't going to pay him £300k a week to do nothing, so they suggest he leaves. I don't think that's bizarre at all.
You don't think it's bizarre to sign a player on a contract more than double the wage of anything previous, when our income is dropping, then push him out less than a year later? The board aren't going to pay him £300k a week to do nothing, so they suggest he leaves. I don't think that's bizarre at all.
When Emery was brought on board, heavy reference was made to his in depth knowledge and plans for squad. Ramsey is good at pressing, arguably perfect for Emerys style, but clearly the board don't fancy that.
Seems like the club are back to firefighting with no forward planning.
12 months on things are very different, and the current club structure are trying to deal with an expensive player on a long contract that now doesn't fit with what the current direction (if there is one) is.
Clusterf
k doesn't even being to describe the situation....
theplayingmantis said:
ozil contract was pure gazidis and wenger. sanchez was telling them to f off, so they had to come out and bag the other one simply for loss of face, and to proove (for IG) that he could sign the big players. sadly the kroenkys let them do it.
I total and utter balls up that neither of them will have to deal with. Lucky them. His contract is yet another example of the unwavering (and often misplaced) faith Wenger had in his players.
I suspect that they'd planned Wenger's tenure to continue when they offered this, and Wenger wanted to base his team around his 'talisman'.
Millstone more like. He's paid more than Eden Hazard. Unbelievable.
theplayingmantis said:
no based on the media reports Ive read, hes concerned his position/influence is being eroded by the pursuit of a technical director, edu. he seems to want more power than clubs want to give him for whatever reason.
thats the trigger
Hasnt Edu already said no thanks?thats the trigger
https://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/edu-turns-...
Cupramax said:
not in yesterdays telegraph he hadnt. still i imagine they will still pursue the route even if edu turns them down, maybe sven can apply!Gassing Station | Football | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff