The Official Arsenal - 14 x FA Cup winners thread - Vol 4
Discussion
Ascayman said:
Adam B said:
which is technically true, if season ticket holders don't turn up as seats are pre-sold
rules should be changed to report attendance not sales
They arent 'rules' are they? that's just how the club decides to report, for obvious reasons id guess.. rules should be changed to report attendance not sales
Anything else is for show/vanity.
Glassman said:
Ascayman said:
Adam B said:
which is technically true, if season ticket holders don't turn up as seats are pre-sold
rules should be changed to report attendance not sales
They arent 'rules' are they? that's just how the club decides to report, for obvious reasons id guess.. rules should be changed to report attendance not sales
Anything else is for show/vanity.
Ascayman said:
Adam B said:
which is technically true, if season ticket holders don't turn up as seats are pre-sold
rules should be changed to report attendance not sales
They arent 'rules' are they? that's just how the club decides to report, for obvious reasons id guess.. rules should be changed to report attendance not sales
Stunning, but I don’t think she’s going to dig this club out of the massive s
tstorm we’re in currently.
Arteta has always been a classy act, we should have bought him as a player a couple of seasons before we did IMO, but I’m still worried how the helll he's going to deal with such a disaffected squad.we have, Maybe half the first team squad that are quite possibly going to be binned in this transfer window, or the summer.
Let’s look at this constructively.
Leno, yes, he’s good enough
Bellerin, yes, but still needs to prove himself after major injury, been poor since he came back.
Sokratis yes, but has been shaky after a good season with Koscielny last year.
Holding, yes but needs a good run without injury.
Mustafi, for all his faults has looked ok when played with Holding
Luiz, play him as a DM, he’s a liability as a CB, he’s great going forwards.
Chambers, he’s worked hard this season but he’s a squad player at best, keep him if possible as the attitude is right if not a lot else
Tank (kola) I want to like him but ducking shots in the box? isn’t quite as hard as he likes to make out.
Ceballos, not seen enough to decide
Mesut, thanks, but see ya.
Torreira, yes, in the right formation, like last season.
AMN and Willock, yes please, bed in gradually.
Xhaka, I think he’s half decent, no world beater, but doesn’t suit the way we’re playing at the moment
Guendouzi, was great last year but has really struggled this season, yes, but needs some coaching on his tendency to headless chicken.
Yang, yes yes yes, give him some service, he’s the best since Henry went.
Lacazette same as above but you can’t play both.
Pepe, appears to be taking time to settle, give him some time.
Martinelli, st hot, gradually work him into the squad.
tstorm we’re in currently. Arteta has always been a classy act, we should have bought him as a player a couple of seasons before we did IMO, but I’m still worried how the helll he's going to deal with such a disaffected squad.we have, Maybe half the first team squad that are quite possibly going to be binned in this transfer window, or the summer.
Let’s look at this constructively.
Leno, yes, he’s good enough
Bellerin, yes, but still needs to prove himself after major injury, been poor since he came back.
Sokratis yes, but has been shaky after a good season with Koscielny last year.
Holding, yes but needs a good run without injury.
Mustafi, for all his faults has looked ok when played with Holding
Luiz, play him as a DM, he’s a liability as a CB, he’s great going forwards.
Chambers, he’s worked hard this season but he’s a squad player at best, keep him if possible as the attitude is right if not a lot else
Tank (kola) I want to like him but ducking shots in the box? isn’t quite as hard as he likes to make out.
Ceballos, not seen enough to decide
Mesut, thanks, but see ya.
Torreira, yes, in the right formation, like last season.
AMN and Willock, yes please, bed in gradually.
Xhaka, I think he’s half decent, no world beater, but doesn’t suit the way we’re playing at the moment
Guendouzi, was great last year but has really struggled this season, yes, but needs some coaching on his tendency to headless chicken.
Yang, yes yes yes, give him some service, he’s the best since Henry went.
Lacazette same as above but you can’t play both.
Pepe, appears to be taking time to settle, give him some time.
Martinelli, s
t hot, gradually work him into the squad.So reading through your list there's only 1 player you'd definitely like to leave or think isn't ever going to be good enough, Ozil.
Really?
Most of those players wouldn't get in the first 11 of any of the top 6 clubs and that's what you're aspiring to be, a top 6 club.
I suspect your list/review won't be acceptable to a lot of gooners.
Really?
Most of those players wouldn't get in the first 11 of any of the top 6 clubs and that's what you're aspiring to be, a top 6 club.
I suspect your list/review won't be acceptable to a lot of gooners.
Gadgetmac said:
So reading through your list there's only 1 player you'd definitely like to leave or think isn't ever going to be good enough, Ozil.
Really?
Most of those players wouldn't get in the first 11 of any of the top 6 clubs and that's what you're aspiring to be, a top 6 club.
I suspect your list/review won't be acceptable to a lot of gooners.
There are a lot of ifs and ors and buts, about the Ozil argument. Are you ssaying that Ozil would get into the other top 6 teams?Really?
Most of those players wouldn't get in the first 11 of any of the top 6 clubs and that's what you're aspiring to be, a top 6 club.
I suspect your list/review won't be acceptable to a lot of gooners.
I think his problem he is a convention number 10 that doesnt suit the style of play these days, if he was on lower wages he would be ok but he isnt....
And the China thing has probably sealed his fate unfortunately
Gadgetmac said:
So reading through your list there's only 1 player you'd definitely like to leave or think isn't ever going to be good enough, Ozil.
Really?
Most of those players wouldn't get in the first 11 of any of the top 6 clubs and that's what you're aspiring to be, a top 6 club.
I suspect your list/review won't be acceptable to a lot of gooners.
I think the list's acceptable. We are under achieving. We'll not win much with this squad, but we should be challenging for top 4 in my opinion. Really?
Most of those players wouldn't get in the first 11 of any of the top 6 clubs and that's what you're aspiring to be, a top 6 club.
I suspect your list/review won't be acceptable to a lot of gooners.
The only one I'd add to that is Luiz. I just think he's a busted flush. Chelsea let him go for a reason. His decision making is really poor, and we need solidity in all aspects of our defence, which I just don't think he'll ever provide. Yes, he's good with the ball at his feet, but that's not enough.
Gadgetmac said:
So reading through your list there's only 1 player you'd definitely like to leave or think isn't ever going to be good enough, Ozil.
Really?
Most of those players wouldn't get in the first 11 of any of the top 6 clubs and that's what you're aspiring to be, a top 6 club.
I suspect your list/review won't be acceptable to a lot of gooners.
As I said at the start, we can all bReally?
Most of those players wouldn't get in the first 11 of any of the top 6 clubs and that's what you're aspiring to be, a top 6 club.
I suspect your list/review won't be acceptable to a lot of gooners.
h and winge, there’s no way they’re going to start throwing cash around in the January window, so Arteta is going to have to do something with what we have, as I said, a constructive list not a let’s slag everyone off.Xhaka has been at the brunt end of most of it, I’ve made a point of watching a lot of the Swiss matches to try and work out what’s going wrong, he always puts a solid display in for them, but perhaps their hole team structure seems to suit him better.
Cupramax said:
As I said at the start, we can all bh and winge, there’s no way they’re going to start throwing cash around in the January window, so Arteta is going to have to do something with what we have, as I said, a constructive list not a let’s slag everyone off.
Xhaka has been at the brunt end of most of it, I’ve made a point of watching a lot of the Swiss matches to try and work out what’s going wrong, he always puts a solid display in for them, but perhaps their hole team structure seems to suit him better.
Yep.h and winge, there’s no way they’re going to start throwing cash around in the January window, so Arteta is going to have to do something with what we have, as I said, a constructive list not a let’s slag everyone off.Xhaka has been at the brunt end of most of it, I’ve made a point of watching a lot of the Swiss matches to try and work out what’s going wrong, he always puts a solid display in for them, but perhaps their hole team structure seems to suit him better.
Square pegs in round holes and lack of/poor coaching all round.
One only has to hope that Arteta has learnt enough from Pep to identify and fix the issues with the current squad, and maybe identified some 'cheap' youngsters that could be brought in.
Certainly I have no doubt he was told that there's no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that he's going to be given to rebuild a squad that emery has already largely replaced in the 18 months he was there.
Time will tell if this is a good move or not by the club, but we all suspect that it was probably the only option the board had?
There are capable players in the squad but there are also some players who I would say either lack physicality or commitment. From what I have read of Arteta he’s going to demand total commitment so I think we’ll see some departures...which is what needs to happen. The main thing we really seem to lack are athletic players in midfield and defence....we lose far too many 50/50 challenges and out central defenders are so scared of pace they spend their whole time back pedalling to goal (especially Luiz).
My guess is the thing that has really caused the delay in getting the appointment confirmed is Arteta being comfortable with the financial resources he’s going to have. Anyone can see that over the next 18 months there needs to be some serious recruitment and Arsenal’s financial position means that can’t happen unless Stan puts his hand in his pocket.
Interesting times but I am excited about Arteta in a way I never was about Emery....well apart from the Leicester home game last season which I took my son to and was probably the best performance under him.
My guess is the thing that has really caused the delay in getting the appointment confirmed is Arteta being comfortable with the financial resources he’s going to have. Anyone can see that over the next 18 months there needs to be some serious recruitment and Arsenal’s financial position means that can’t happen unless Stan puts his hand in his pocket.
Interesting times but I am excited about Arteta in a way I never was about Emery....well apart from the Leicester home game last season which I took my son to and was probably the best performance under him.
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