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technodup

7,585 posts

131 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Edinburger said:
I don't sit at a desk all day as part of my job, but if you think that sort of thing is acceptable and appropriate in 2018 then you're a bigger clown thank I thought. But then again, you're a Weegie.
It's absolutely acceptable. It was a perfectly legal organised march overseen by police. You don't like it, which is fine, but don't expect anyone to care.

And can you leave out the casual bigotry based on my city. I'm not calling you an AIDs ridden junkie.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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technodup said:
Edinburger said:
I don't sit at a desk all day as part of my job, but if you think that sort of thing is acceptable and appropriate in 2018 then you're a bigger clown thank I thought. But then again, you're a Weegie.
It's absolutely acceptable. It was a perfectly legal organised march overseen by police. You don't like it, which is fine, but don't expect anyone to care.

And can you leave out the casual bigotry based on my city. I'm not calling you an AIDs ridden junkie.
Whatever.

But isn't not bigotry. Sectarian hatred is predominently a west coast issue - fact.

We'll never agree so let's drop this topic.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Edinburger said:
simoid said:
What nonsense? Union Jacks or paramilitary groups? You seem to be conflating the two quite regularly.

I’m pro expression of patriotism, but anti terrorism. Surely that goes without saying silly
You're pro-expression of patriotism? Are you forgetting the discussions we've had over the years in the Scottish independence thread?

Anyway... I'm going to stop discussing this issue with you and laughing boy because you're both too small-minded and oblivious to the world outwith G51 to have a meaningful discussion.
I don’t think there’s any need for the insult, namely “small-minded”. I’m quite the opposite. I’m totally open to anyone’s point of view if they take the time to explain themselves in a rational matter. You unfortunately don’t appear to be understanding the thread of conversation or expressing yourself coherently or consistently whatsoever.

I consider there to be a difference between nationalism and patriotism. I’m patriotic, proud of my country, and happy for anyone to show they are too. I’m anti hatred. Be it hatred of Catholics, Tories, English, women, Hibs fans, Huns, and I don’t think I’ve ever given anything other than that impression. If you think I’m not, it’s probably because you have based your impression of me not on what I type on here, but with the assumption that I’m a small-minded bigot BECAUSE I am a Rangers fan.

You sir, have a problem.

I’m here to discuss and assist you whenever you have collected your toys.

technodup

7,585 posts

131 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Edinburger said:
Whatever.

But isn't not bigotry. Sectarian hatred is predominently a west coast issue - fact.

We'll never agree so let's drop this topic.
You called me a clown because I'm from Glasgow. It seems it's OK for some to generalise based on where you're from. Fortunately I'm not minded to get all offended about it because I'm an adult, and can accept people have different views, even when I don't like them.

And if you remember this all started because it kicked off in your city.

Barga

12,241 posts

207 months

Wednesday 14th November 2018
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Helicopter123 said:
Looking at the table, it's amazing how quickly things can change, with the two Edinburgh clubs seemingly in retreat while the likes of Aberdeen, Killie and St. Johnstone march upwards. Could do with Celtic hitting a bad patch just to keep things tight heading into the festive period.

Best league in years.
The fact that Killie,the Dons and St J are doing it with tiny budgets and Livingstone after promotion and the terrible appointment of KM as manager is heartening for Scotish football.
If we could get the National Team moving in the right direction it would be even better.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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I can’t work the national team out just now. A lot of very tough friendlies have made Eck’s win rate ridiculously low, but there’s definitely a team in there. Hopefully we can get 4 or 6 points from these two games and get some feel good factor.

There’s no right backs in the squad at present - Ryan Fraser or Forrest wing back? Personally I’d put Tierney RB of a 4. The majority (or all?) of the players are most used to a 4. That way we’re not shoehorning in two of our best players out of position, and we don’t have to play 3 centre backs when we probably have least talent in this position.

Edited by simoid on Thursday 15th November 08:21

Strocky

2,650 posts

114 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Rangers are considering their options after the Scottish FA revealed that referee Willie Collum showed a second yellow card to winger Daniel Candeias in their win over St Mirren for blowing kisses to goad Anton Ferdinand

DocJock

8,360 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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simoid said:
I can’t work the national team out just now. A lot of very tough friendlies have made Eck’s win rate ridiculously low, but there’s definitely a team in there. Hopefully we can get 4 or 6 points from these two games and get some feel good factor.

There’s no right backs in the squad at present - Ryan Fraser or Forrest wing back? Personally I’d put Tierney RB of a 4. The majority (or all?) of the players are most used to a 4. That way we’re not shoehorning in two of our best players out of position, and we don’t have to play 3 centre backs when we probably have least talent in this position.

Edited by simoid on Thursday 15th November 08:21
I agree about moving Tierney to RB in a back 4.

Anyone else less happy about Fletcher being called up? Surely he's filling a place a young guy with plenty of years ahead of him could have had?

Strocky

2,650 posts

114 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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DocJock said:
I agree about moving Tierney to RB in a back 4.

Anyone else less happy about Fletcher being called up? Surely he's filling a place a young guy with plenty of years ahead of him could have had?
It's like the good old days when Danny McGrain was played out of position to accomodate Sandy Jardine
FWIW, if Scotland plays 4-4-2, I'd play Tierney @ LB & Robertson @ LW

JuniorD

8,628 posts

224 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Danny McGrain what a legend





bow

DocJock

8,360 posts

241 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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Total legend.

Best Scottish defender in my lifetime, and I say that as a Hibs fan who loved John Brownlie.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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You guys are old hehe

I might try Robertson left wing. Has he done it before? It’s different to playing LB, less space to receive ball and you’re often playing with back to goal. Not got anyone to play RB this time though unless it’s CalPat and he’s been playing centre forward recently.

Not fussed either way about Fletcher’s inclusion, all will be well if he plays well. I’d start him before McBurnie just now, more experienced in this sort of situation.

Barga

12,241 posts

207 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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simoid said:
I can’t work the national team out just now. A lot of very tough friendlies have made Eck’s win rate ridiculously low, but there’s definitely a team in there. Hopefully we can get 4 or 6 points from these two games and get some feel good factor.

There’s no right backs in the squad at present - Ryan Fraser or Forrest wing back? Personally I’d put Tierney RB of a 4. The majority (or all?) of the players are most used to a 4. That way we’re not shoehorning in two of our best players out of position, and we don’t have to play 3 centre backs when we probably have least talent in this position.

Edited by simoid on Thursday 15th November 08:21
Its a real shame that we have 2 quality players in the same position and a severe lack in other positions.
It wouldn't matter what the opposition was like as Isreal proved!
Big Eck was a terrible appointment probably led by the fact no one of any quality wanted it for the peanuts they were offering,asking the NI manager to jump ship for LESS money than he was already on was typical of an incompetent SFA.
Sacking Strachan when he was building up a head of steam has set the national team back years!

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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I thought Berti, Burley and Levein were terrible appointments. You need someone with knowledge of Scottish football and knowledge of setting teams up with success against European opposition IMO. Walter Smith, Eck and Strachan all fit that bill.

McLeish’s stock is a bit lower this time I suppose. Is he perhaps a bit further behind the times? Nobody in the staff seems particularly inspiring either.

PS Israel aren’t a bad side tbh - plenty of good quality players at big clubs. I’d like to think we can do them over though.

Barga

12,241 posts

207 months

Thursday 15th November 2018
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simoid said:
I thought Berti, Burley and Levein were terrible appointments. You need someone with knowledge of Scottish football and knowledge of setting teams up with success against European opposition IMO. Walter Smith, Eck and Strachan all fit that bill.

McLeish’s stock is a bit lower this time I suppose. Is he perhaps a bit further behind the times? Nobody in the staff seems particularly inspiring either.

PS Israel aren’t a bad side tbh - plenty of good quality players at big clubs. I’d like to think we can do them over though.
Israel are ranked 91 by FIFA and the 3 you mentioned are right up there with big Eck imo.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Friday 16th November 2018
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Tierney oot. On to plan M or N I think...

abzmike

8,412 posts

107 months

Friday 16th November 2018
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simoid said:
Tierney oot. On to plan M or N I think...
Saves Mcleish trying to workout how KT and Robertson can coexist on the same pitch.

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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Didn't see that coming.

Watching from afar and no commentary, I'm missing a few things.

Quality goals by Fraser and Forest.

The penalty looked really soft. I guess it's one you'd always be happy to get, but never argue that it wasn't given.

Why was Forrest's goal disallowed? Did Bates touch it?

The sending off looked merited. Bad challenge followed by another headbutt on Christie.

Robertson is a fine player, but I'm not sure he's a captain.


Is Paterson wearing that moustache as a bet?

BrabusMog

20,181 posts

187 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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Good to see us pump someone for a change.

I'm presuming Paterson is doing Movember if that's still a thing?

abzmike

8,412 posts

107 months

Saturday 17th November 2018
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We should be pumping Albania when they’re down to 10 men after twenty minutes, but still a decent result overall.
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