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The SFA just make the rules up as they go along. I can see them getting ripped to bits and making themselves look even more incompetent over this.
Brown will be lucky to escape the incident last night. He did stand on the guy with intent. He could have easily avoided that.
Another game under Lennon with another lacklustre performance. Like against Rangers at the weekend in total control and then just completely switch off allowing the other team the chance to get back into the game.
Lennon is good enough to win the league with ease, but he's not the man for the job overall in my opinion.
Brown will be lucky to escape the incident last night. He did stand on the guy with intent. He could have easily avoided that.
Another game under Lennon with another lacklustre performance. Like against Rangers at the weekend in total control and then just completely switch off allowing the other team the chance to get back into the game.
Lennon is good enough to win the league with ease, but he's not the man for the job overall in my opinion.
Strocky said:
Celtic & Scott Brown cited for celebrating the derby win at the weekend, nope it's not a late April the 1st joke
The smoking gun 
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitio...
I've not seen a second of football all this weekend. I read there is even more negative press this week.
What is with all the throwing s
t this season? A fking coconut? It's not a thing you just happen to have in your pocket.
More fireworks again at the weekend? It's getting out of hand where people need to be searched going in.
The banger that went off in the St Mirren v Celtic game midweek was like and explosive. Everyone st themselves.
It does seem as if some people are reveling in the headlines and playing up to all this crap.
What is with all the throwing s
t this season? A fking coconut? It's not a thing you just happen to have in your pocket. More fireworks again at the weekend? It's getting out of hand where people need to be searched going in.
The banger that went off in the St Mirren v Celtic game midweek was like and explosive. Everyone s
t themselves. It does seem as if some people are reveling in the headlines and playing up to all this crap.
Edited by Driver101 on Monday 8th April 09:14
It is disgusting. I see a South American (perhaps Bolivia) game was stopped as a player left the pitch due to monkey chants.
I bring him up specifically as I know he’s been targeted more than once: James Tavernier has been confronted by a pitch invader, and now had objects thrown at him at recent away games. If it was me in his shoes, I would feel quite within my rights to simply go home from my work if I didn’t feel safe.
I hope Kris Boyd isn’t right - and we are able to calm this ste down before someone is injured seriously.
Thinking aloud: what would happen if there was a spate of abuse of bus drivers and objects thrown at buses across Scotland. Would we just cancel the buses?
I bring him up specifically as I know he’s been targeted more than once: James Tavernier has been confronted by a pitch invader, and now had objects thrown at him at recent away games. If it was me in his shoes, I would feel quite within my rights to simply go home from my work if I didn’t feel safe.
I hope Kris Boyd isn’t right - and we are able to calm this s
te down before someone is injured seriously.Thinking aloud: what would happen if there was a spate of abuse of bus drivers and objects thrown at buses across Scotland. Would we just cancel the buses?
Buses were probably a bad example as they do get targetted. Some runs in Glasgow have a right reputation. It isn't unusual at all for ambulances and the fire brigade to be attacked too. It kind of shows how st society is.
I've never really considered Tavernier to be disliked. He doesn't seem to get targetted outside these incidents.
It has always surprised me how little checks are done at football grounds. Totally unmanned ticket booths and zero searches are common. You can get into a football ground without being looked at and can get anything in.
Even the cup final right after major terrorist attacks had little security. Extra police on the parameter of Hampden park due to top level security threat, but we still walked in as a group totally unquestioned.
Any large scale music event usually has a few barriers in place. I've been searched loads of times even as far as checking inside my wallet, bag searches and metal detectors. Even then tons of folk still manage to sneak in loads of crap.
Why are the security checks for football so poor?
t society is. I've never really considered Tavernier to be disliked. He doesn't seem to get targetted outside these incidents.
It has always surprised me how little checks are done at football grounds. Totally unmanned ticket booths and zero searches are common. You can get into a football ground without being looked at and can get anything in.
Even the cup final right after major terrorist attacks had little security. Extra police on the parameter of Hampden park due to top level security threat, but we still walked in as a group totally unquestioned.
Any large scale music event usually has a few barriers in place. I've been searched loads of times even as far as checking inside my wallet, bag searches and metal detectors. Even then tons of folk still manage to sneak in loads of crap.
Why are the security checks for football so poor?
Edited by Driver101 on Monday 8th April 10:57
Driver101 said:
Buses were probably a bad example as they do get targetted. Some runs in Glasgow have a right reputation. It isn't unusual at all for ambulances and the fire brigade to be attacked too. It kind if shows how st society is.
I've never really considered Tavernier to be disliked. He doesn't seem to get targetted outside these incidents.
It has always surprised me how little checks are done at football grounds. Totally unmanned ticket booths and zero searches are common. You can get into a football ground without being looked at and can get anything in.
Even the cup final right after major terrorist attacks had little security. Extra police on the parameter of Hampden park due to top level security threat, but we still walked in as a group totally unquestioned.
Any large scale music event usually has a few barriers in place. I've been searched loads of times even as far as checking inside my wallet, bag searches and metal detectors. Even then tons of folk still manage to sneak in loads of crap.
Why are the security checks for football so poor?
Probably down to cost - Stewards to search spectators properly would cost a fortune, Affordable when 60000 are paying £70 to see Coldplay, not affordable when 15000 paying £25 to play St Mirren.t society is. I've never really considered Tavernier to be disliked. He doesn't seem to get targetted outside these incidents.
It has always surprised me how little checks are done at football grounds. Totally unmanned ticket booths and zero searches are common. You can get into a football ground without being looked at and can get anything in.
Even the cup final right after major terrorist attacks had little security. Extra police on the parameter of Hampden park due to top level security threat, but we still walked in as a group totally unquestioned.
Any large scale music event usually has a few barriers in place. I've been searched loads of times even as far as checking inside my wallet, bag searches and metal detectors. Even then tons of folk still manage to sneak in loads of crap.
Why are the security checks for football so poor?
abzmike said:
Probably down to cost - Stewards to search spectators properly would cost a fortune, Affordable when 60000 are paying £70 to see Coldplay, not affordable when 15000 paying £25 to play St Mirren.
Even the Brewdog AGM at the AECC this weekend had full searches and metal detectors. It's free and as always very well behaved. Everyone is ticketed and a shareholder plus a partner.
Even smaller gigs at the 02 Academy in Glasgow have searches and metal detectors.
Driver101 said:
Even the Brewdog AGM at the AECC this weekend had full searches and metal detectors.
It's free and as always very well behaved. Everyone is ticketed and a shareholder plus a partner.
Even smaller gigs at the 02 Academy in Glasgow have searches and metal detectors.
Smaller venues, even the AECC, only need to police one or two entrances - Different challenge to a football ground. I was at Old Trafford for the Stones last summer, and body and bag searches took an age at specially setup barriers before reaching the stadium. It would have been carnage with a football crowd.It's free and as always very well behaved. Everyone is ticketed and a shareholder plus a partner.
Even smaller gigs at the 02 Academy in Glasgow have searches and metal detectors.
It comes as no surprise whatsoever that the usual suspects are out in full ban mode because a couple of guys have chucked some things onto pitches. But searches and metal detectors will achieve fk all, except cost a fortune, slow everyone down and generally be a nuisance.
Coins would obviously be exempt for a start. One of the more dangerous items in the wrong hands. So what's the point? Or are you forcing clubs to go cashless as well?
And although a search might stop a flare or a coconut, will it stop programmes? Because a couple of rolled up programmes and an elastic band would make a decent projectile. Will it stop someone using their belt as a weapon?
If someone wants to throw something they're gonna throw something. No amount of reactive nanny state bks will change that.
k all, except cost a fortune, slow everyone down and generally be a nuisance.Coins would obviously be exempt for a start. One of the more dangerous items in the wrong hands. So what's the point? Or are you forcing clubs to go cashless as well?
And although a search might stop a flare or a coconut, will it stop programmes? Because a couple of rolled up programmes and an elastic band would make a decent projectile. Will it stop someone using their belt as a weapon?
If someone wants to throw something they're gonna throw something. No amount of reactive nanny state b
ks will change that.Not just in football stadia but seems that in most facets UK society in the has deteriorated a huge amount in the last year or two. It appears that s everywhere somehow feel licensed to express their hideous selves. Perhaps it was always there, but was merely suppressed. It certainly feels like we've entered a period of benightedness.
s everywhere somehow feel licensed to express their hideous selves. Perhaps it was always there, but was merely suppressed. It certainly feels like we've entered a period of benightedness.JuniorD said:
Not just in football stadia but seems that in most facets UK society in the has deteriorated a huge amount in the last year or two. It appears that s everywhere somehow feel licensed to express their hideous selves. Perhaps it was always there, but was merely suppressed. It certainly feels like we've entered a period of benightedness.
It’s only flags and songs though! s everywhere somehow feel licensed to express their hideous selves. Perhaps it was always there, but was merely suppressed. It certainly feels like we've entered a period of benightedness.
Caught sportsound earlier. Couple of points with which I disagreed:
One of the panellists said we have mechanisms for dealing with individual racists but can’t do anything if a whole section of support is at it. Surely the mechanism is exactly the same: document evidence and prosecute?
Another panellists said that the repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act has emboldened aholes to be aholes (paraphrasing). As if people now think it’s acceptable to launch bottles and seats and coins and pies!?
It’s all fked.
One of the panellists said we have mechanisms for dealing with individual racists but can’t do anything if a whole section of support is at it. Surely the mechanism is exactly the same: document evidence and prosecute?
Another panellists said that the repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act has emboldened a
holes to be aholes (paraphrasing). As if people now think it’s acceptable to launch bottles and seats and coins and pies!?It’s all f
ked.simoid said:
Caught sportsound earlier. Couple of points with which I disagreed:
One of the panellists said we have mechanisms for dealing with individual racists but can’t do anything if a whole section of support is at it. Surely the mechanism is exactly the same: document evidence and prosecute?
Another panellists said that the repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act has emboldened aholes to be aholes (paraphrasing). As if people now think it’s acceptable to launch bottles and seats and coins and pies!?
It’s all fked.
There are plenty of laws still available to prosecute those that throw seats, pyros, coins and coconuts onto football fields. People keep doing it because a) they are idiots, and b) they know there is little chance of being caught. Stewards don’t want to get involved (getting battered isn’t part of their job) and the police don’t want to get involved (too much aggro for a minor offence). Until some tw*ts are made an example of, the problems will not go away.One of the panellists said we have mechanisms for dealing with individual racists but can’t do anything if a whole section of support is at it. Surely the mechanism is exactly the same: document evidence and prosecute?
Another panellists said that the repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act has emboldened a
holes to be aholes (paraphrasing). As if people now think it’s acceptable to launch bottles and seats and coins and pies!?It’s all f
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