The Official Scottish Football Thread

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Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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simoid said:
Edinburger said:
I think he's an excellent appointment by Hibs. He has instilled positivity and self-belief into the team and staff at HTC. He's not the first and won't be the last person to say something on camera which he later regrets.

I wasn't aware Hibs had a hooligan problem. Yes, there's the odd idiot - like any cub - but is there a general hooligan problem at Hibs? Pot and kettle spring to mind, by the way.

Did you see Leeanne Dempster's tweet about the Hearts idiot who was damaging the seats?
Yes on the field he’s certainly got the team picking up points.

Decent attempt and whataboutery and deflection from his thuggish remarks - I’ll assume you agree that he is setting a bad example.

No hooligan problem at Hibs? Your mind will explode if you stick ‘Hibs hooligans’ into YouTube so definitely don’t do that. Oh and your entire fan base invaded the pitch at the national stadium just a couple of years ago but you’ve clearly forgotten that too. And the guy who shouted ‘black bd’, and the guy who invaded the pitch to confront Rangers’ captain, and the guy who threw the bottle at Sinclair. All of them just the odd idiot.

Yes I know Rangers have plenty of idiots too - please stop doing yourself a disservice by pretending your club is any different.

Edited by simoid on Wednesday 1st May 14:13
Glad you retracted that. All football clubs have their idiot fans - fact.

Point of order though: the entire fan base didn't invade the pitch at Hampden. several hundred/thousand did and it was mainly an act of exuberance. No reference to the Rangers inciting violence on the pitch that day though?

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Edinburger said:
No reference to the Rangers inciting violence on the pitch that day though?
They’re aholes.

I’ve not retracted anything. I fear you may have misunderstood my post.

TBH I think the club many people would most closely associate with hooliganism in Scotland would be Hibs. The new manager talking about knocking a referee’s teeth out won’t be helping that. I thought you might instantly and explicitly condemn it as a reasonable person would do, but clearly the green tints are too strong and you ended up on Rangers quicker than you can say James Tavernier.

technodup

7,585 posts

131 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Edinburger said:
an act of exuberance.
laugh

Amazing.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48123027

Always find it strange there’s no openly gay footballers (bad thing). And that you never really hear stories/rumours of gay footballers (probably a good thing).

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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technodup said:
Edinburger said:
an act of exuberance.
laugh

Amazing.
Really? It absolutely was an act of exuberance. Check out Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Scottish_Cup_Final) where it says "...the invasion was caused by the Hibs supporters' exuberance at winning the cup...".

The big question is: why were Rangers fans on the pitch?

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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simoid said:
Edinburger said:
No reference to the Rangers inciting violence on the pitch that day though?
They’re aholes.

I’ve not retracted anything. I fear you may have misunderstood my post.

TBH I think the club many people would most closely associate with hooliganism in Scotland would be Hibs. The new manager talking about knocking a referee’s teeth out won’t be helping that. I thought you might instantly and explicitly condemn it as a reasonable person would do, but clearly the green tints are too strong and you ended up on Rangers quicker than you can say James Tavernier.
I'd put the manager's comments down to relative inexperience at media interviews and he probably regrets some of those words.

In the 80s/90s I'd agree Hibs had a big issue with football hooliganism through the casuals sub-culture. But would you really associate Hibs with hooliganism today more than any other team in Scotland? I mean really?!

technodup

7,585 posts

131 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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Edinburger said:
Really? It absolutely was an act of exuberance. Check out Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Scottish_Cup_Final) where it says "...the invasion was caused by the Hibs supporters' exuberance at winning the cup...".
You realise I could change that to "...the invasion was caused by the Hibs supporters' being dirty junkie bds..." in about 2 minutes?

Using Wikipedia as a source for subjective football stuff is pretty desperate tbh.



Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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technodup said:
ou realise I could change that to "...the invasion was caused by the Hibs supporters' being dirty junkie bds..." in about 2 minutes?

Using Wikipedia as a source for subjective football stuff is pretty desperate tbh.
Ha ha - you don't know what subjective means, do you?

A poll would probably show you that the public perception of Rangers fans is that they're scumbags. You'd have a fit if I said that, but you can call Hibbees junkies, spoon burners, etc.?


technodup

7,585 posts

131 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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Edinburger said:
technodup said:
ou realise I could change that to "...the invasion was caused by the Hibs supporters' being dirty junkie bds..." in about 2 minutes?

Using Wikipedia as a source for subjective football stuff is pretty desperate tbh.
Ha ha - you don't know what subjective means, do you?

A poll would probably show you that the public perception of Rangers fans is that they're scumbags. You'd have a fit if I said that, but you can call Hibbees junkies, spoon burners, etc.?
Go on then, explain how either of those two statements aren't subjective opinion.

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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technodup said:
Edinburger said:
technodup said:
ou realise I could change that to "...the invasion was caused by the Hibs supporters' being dirty junkie bds..." in about 2 minutes?

Using Wikipedia as a source for subjective football stuff is pretty desperate tbh.
Ha ha - you don't know what subjective means, do you?

A poll would probably show you that the public perception of Rangers fans is that they're scumbags. You'd have a fit if I said that, but you can call Hibbees junkies, spoon burners, etc.?
Go on then, explain how either of those two statements aren't subjective opinion.
Exactly! They're both subjective.

Can we talk about football? Predictions for this weekend? On Sunday I predict 2-3.

simoid

19,772 posts

159 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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Edinburger said:
I'd put the manager's comments down to relative inexperience at media interviews and he probably regrets some of those words.

In the 80s/90s I'd agree Hibs had a big issue with football hooliganism through the casuals sub-culture. But would you really associate Hibs with hooliganism today more than any other team in Scotland? I mean really?!
Fair enough - you’re entitled to give him the benefit of doubt/inexperience/heat of the moment like I do with Morelos. When I think of hooligans I think of Hibs Hearts, Hibs Rangers, Dundee clubs clashing, that sort of thing. I’m sure I’m not alone. Maybe because I grew up in east central Scotland.

I think that Ibrox atmosphere will depend on whether Celtic finally win the league (that they ‘won’ months ago hehe)

Might be a nothing game and both teams might go for it. Or Rangers might be trying to keep the title chase alive and feeling the pressure.

technodup

7,585 posts

131 months

Friday 3rd May 2019
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Edinburger said:
Exactly! They're both subjective.
Eh? It wasn't me who quoted Wiki as if it was fact.

Barga

12,241 posts

207 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Well done Celtic Scotish champions for the 8th consecutive time and now only 90 mins away from a historic Treble Treble.


cuprabob

14,718 posts

215 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Barga said:
Well done Celtic Scotish champions for the 8th consecutive time and now only 90 mins away from a historic Treble Treble.
How do you know the game won't go into extra time and penalties? smile

Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Well done to Celtic.

Aberdeen had a couple of really good chances today. Hard to believe that Wilson is a Man Utd player. Every time I've seen him he is worse than useless.


DocJock

8,360 posts

241 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Have you not watched Man Utd lately? wink

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Will Rangers give Celtic a guard of honour next week?

abzmike

8,450 posts

107 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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Edinburger said:
Will Rangers give Celtic a guard of honour next week?
There is precedent but the bears won’t like it!

Edinburger

10,403 posts

169 months

Saturday 4th May 2019
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abzmike said:
Edinburger said:
Will Rangers give Celtic a guard of honour next week?
There is precedent but the bears won’t like it!
I know!

Remember this?


Driver101

14,376 posts

122 months

Sunday 5th May 2019
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DocJock said:
Have you not watched Man Utd lately? wink
Fair point. laugh

If his Wikipedia page is accurate his Man Utd contract will be up at the end of the season. I can't imagine he's going to even get a contract at Sunderland.

abzmike said:
Edinburger said:
Will Rangers give Celtic a guard of honour next week?
There is precedent but the bears won’t like it!
It would cause a riot. There is no point even pushing for it to be done even if they expected it in the past.

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