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Edinburger said:
Rangers have the ability to raise funds and so have a bigger and stronger squad than virtually every team apart from Celtic. Most other teams drop a lot off silly points during a season partially due to squad size and strength. This year, Rangers haven’t done that. Their strong squad has been more consistent than most other teams and that’s why there’s such a gap.
But I’d argue they’re not light years ahead of Hibs, Hearts, etc. Remember since 2012 they’ve spent over £300m and have only won the Petrofac Cup.
You don't half talk some sBut I’d argue they’re not light years ahead of Hibs, Hearts, etc. Remember since 2012 they’ve spent over £300m and have only won the Petrofac Cup.
te.technodup said:
Edinburger said:
Rangers have the ability to raise funds and so have a bigger and stronger squad than virtually every team apart from Celtic. Most other teams drop a lot off silly points during a season partially due to squad size and strength. This year, Rangers haven’t done that. Their strong squad has been more consistent than most other teams and that’s why there’s such a gap.
But I’d argue they’re not light years ahead of Hibs, Hearts, etc. Remember since 2012 they’ve spent over £300m and have only won the Petrofac Cup.
You don't half talk some sBut I’d argue they’re not light years ahead of Hibs, Hearts, etc. Remember since 2012 they’ve spent over £300m and have only won the Petrofac Cup.
te.simoid said:
Maybe. We’ll see. Mourinho should raise the profile of the Scottish game no end.
Bet you didn’t think Rangers would be 14 points clear of Aberdeen and Killie, and light years ahead of Hibs and Hearts this season...
I don't think he's coming to Celtic. His stock has fallen, but not that far he has to come to Scotland. I can't think of someone who stands out, but it would be good to see a modern thinking manager with modern tactics and thoughts. Bet you didn’t think Rangers would be 14 points clear of Aberdeen and Killie, and light years ahead of Hibs and Hearts this season...
I didn't see Rangers finishing so far ahead. I'm surprised at the regression of Aberdeen. They are miles off their total of last year even though they've taken lots of points off Rangers this year. I won't reignite the scandalous decisions Rangers needed to beat them last week.
Where Rangers have improved as they are beating the lesser teams more often, and by more goals, it's the opposite for Aberdeen. The are now selling points to lesser teams.
It must be disappointing for Aberdeen fans dropping to 2nd to probably 4th. To go from 9 points behind Celtic at the end of season to 23 so far this season is huge.
Strange that last season was a no contest 9 points ahead, but this year some think it was close.
Strange what people can pull from numbers.
Edited by Driver101 on Monday 6th May 02:14
Driver101 said:
I won't reignite the scandalous decisions...
Don’t mention it then 
Rangers have beaten the lesser teams more often, but we’ve also got a greatly improved record against Celtic. There’s only the odd goal between the teams head to head this year, whereas last year the biggest win of any Premiership club was Celtic’s old firm victory and one of Rangers’ results of the season was Murty’s 0-0 draw. So maybe Rangers are just better.
Ultimately the league table doesn’t lie. Celtic are the best, there’s a gap to Rangers, then a larger gap to the lesser teams.
Mourinho might fancy it. Why not? Celtic have a bigger budget than the Champions League semi finalists Ajax. Massive club, looking to create history, etc. Got enough money to pay for him too.
Ajax have spent £50m on players this season.
Thing have clicked in the last couple of years and their progress has been incredible. It does help when other teams are willing to pay huge money to buy their players.
They've managed to command big money for players in recent years they've reinvested well. I see they've got another £70m coming for De Jong when he goes to Barcelona. By the sounds of it he won't be the only massive transfer.
I just can't see teams paying that for players from Scotland even when the values of players like VVD and Dembele rocket as soon as they leave. There is a fear to spend too much on Scottish based players.
I see the odds for Mourinho have been slashed to just 2/1. Clearly there is a lot of hopeful people out there. No chance he will come to Scotland.
As for being able to afford him I read he was on £21m per year at Man Utd.
Thing have clicked in the last couple of years and their progress has been incredible. It does help when other teams are willing to pay huge money to buy their players.
They've managed to command big money for players in recent years they've reinvested well. I see they've got another £70m coming for De Jong when he goes to Barcelona. By the sounds of it he won't be the only massive transfer.
I just can't see teams paying that for players from Scotland even when the values of players like VVD and Dembele rocket as soon as they leave. There is a fear to spend too much on Scottish based players.
I see the odds for Mourinho have been slashed to just 2/1. Clearly there is a lot of hopeful people out there. No chance he will come to Scotland.
As for being able to afford him I read he was on £21m per year at Man Utd.
Edited by Driver101 on Monday 6th May 08:58
simoid said:
Well done to the 18/19 Champions.
Romping the league in early May with only 36 of 38 games played
you’d think it was 8 seasons undefeated the way you go on.
Rangers will be at least 10% better again next season, so Celtic will need to be too. Looking forward to it already. Lennon will get a “thanks but no thanks” Murty-esque cya later and you’ll get another big name in I hope. I don’t want Rangers to stop the rot because you keep Lennon and he bottles it - I hope both teams progress.
Oh no, not another tainted title Romping the league in early May with only 36 of 38 games played
you’d think it was 8 seasons undefeated the way you go on.Rangers will be at least 10% better again next season, so Celtic will need to be too. Looking forward to it already. Lennon will get a “thanks but no thanks” Murty-esque cya later and you’ll get another big name in I hope. I don’t want Rangers to stop the rot because you keep Lennon and he bottles it - I hope both teams progress.
The hurt is strong in this one
Edinburger said:
Rangers have the ability to raise funds and so have a bigger and stronger squad than virtually every team apart from Celtic. Most other teams drop a lot off silly points during a season partially due to squad size and strength. This year, Rangers haven’t done that. Their strong squad has been more consistent than most other teams and that’s why there’s such a gap.
But I’d argue they’re not light years ahead of Hibs, Hearts, etc. Remember since 2012 they’ve spent over £300m and have only won the Petrofac Cup
TBF that's not strictly accurate they also won the Close Season Cup,the International Break Cup & The Winter Break Cup But I’d argue they’re not light years ahead of Hibs, Hearts, etc. Remember since 2012 they’ve spent over £300m and have only won the Petrofac Cup
Rangers have improved and it would be very disappointing if they didn’t with the money they have spent.
Will they be able to keep Kent who is the best player and Morelos could be sold to balance the books.
Tavanier seems to be attracting interest also along with Arfield.
Celtic have a bit of a rebuilding job to do and they need to get the managers position sorted quick so that he can identify who he wants to bring in.
Champions league qualifiers will be along before we know it and if they make the same mistake as last year thinking they can spend the money once they know if the have gone through they will be as disappointed as this year!
My opinion is that Rangers have improved a bit but Celtic have gone backwards more but a few decent signings to freshen up the team will give them the impetus to push on for 9/10 or more titles.
Will they be able to keep Kent who is the best player and Morelos could be sold to balance the books.
Tavanier seems to be attracting interest also along with Arfield.
Celtic have a bit of a rebuilding job to do and they need to get the managers position sorted quick so that he can identify who he wants to bring in.
Champions league qualifiers will be along before we know it and if they make the same mistake as last year thinking they can spend the money once they know if the have gone through they will be as disappointed as this year!
My opinion is that Rangers have improved a bit but Celtic have gone backwards more but a few decent signings to freshen up the team will give them the impetus to push on for 9/10 or more titles.
simoid said:
I enjoyed your list of reasons why Rangers are so far ahead of the Edinburgh clubs. Happy to agree that it’s not light years...
...just 21 more points, 8 more wins, 29 more more goals and 8 more clean sheets
There are 2 main reasons Hearts season has stalled was a huge injury list and the loss of Lafferty who was playing out of his skin until rangers came along to give him big bucks to warm their bench....just 21 more points, 8 more wins, 29 more more goals and 8 more clean sheets
Celtic have a Ronny Deila feel about them this season. Playing for too restrained and only doing the minimum they have to. It has got worse since Lennon came in.
It was only at the turn of the year the team lifted their game and pulled away convincingly thumping teams in the process.
A new manager is needed that's going to have the same impact as Rodgers and give the players a right kick up the arse.
Celtic have done enough to win one cup and get to the final of the Scottish cup whilst only conceding 1 goal. The team can win when it matters.
It was only at the turn of the year the team lifted their game and pulled away convincingly thumping teams in the process.
A new manager is needed that's going to have the same impact as Rodgers and give the players a right kick up the arse.
Celtic have done enough to win one cup and get to the final of the Scottish cup whilst only conceding 1 goal. The team can win when it matters.
simoid said:
Eh... naw. Totally miles off the point of the conversation. Parrot supper as per usual for Strocky 
You seem irked about the fact that Celtic didn't wrap up the league sooner for some bizarre reason, despite even the old Rangers NIAR winning teams usually not winning the league until the end of April / Early May 
Methinks the lady doth protest too much
Edinburger said:
How does the ball go out for a corner, a second ball thrown on and then it’s a drop ball? Surely the corner should be retaken?
And for Hibs: why not challenge for a drop ball in the oppositions box in injury time against 10 men and an outfield player’s in goals when your 1-0 down?
Exciting end, I guess. Rangers deserved the three points. Just wasn’t Hibs’ day.
According to the Hibs player Paul Hanlon, the ref Beaton told them they couldn't contest the drop ball which is contrary to the FIFA's rulesAnd for Hibs: why not challenge for a drop ball in the oppositions box in injury time against 10 men and an outfield player’s in goals when your 1-0 down?
Exciting end, I guess. Rangers deserved the three points. Just wasn’t Hibs’ day.
Quote for Sun Interview below
"At the time, we were desperate to contest the drop ball. It was inside their penalty box and we didn’t want the ball going all the way back to our keeper. We wanted to contest it, but the referee said that if Rangers wanted to give us the ball back we weren’t allowed to contest it. I didn’t know that was the rule now, but that seems to be the case. We were trying to build momentum and keep the pressure on and that kind of put us a bit on the back foot again."
The referee drops the ball at the position where it was when play was stopped, unless play was stopped inside the goal area in which case the ball is dropped on the goal area line which is parallel to the goal line at the point nearest to where the ball was when play was stopped. The ball is in play when it touches the ground. Any number of players may contest a dropped ball (including the goalkeepers); the referee cannot decide who may contest a dropped ball or its outcome
https://www.fifa.com/development/education-and-tec...
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