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simoid said:
Goalkeepers: Craig Gordon, David Marshall, Jon McLaughlin
Defenders: Liam Cooper, Declan Gallagher, Grant Hanley, Jack Hendry, Scott McKenna, Stephen O'Donnell, Nathan Patterson, Andy Robertson, Greg Taylor, Kieran Tierney
Midfielders: Stuart Armstrong, Ryan Christie, John Fleck, James Forrest, Ryan Fraser, Billy Gilmour, John McGinn, Callum McGregor, Scott McTominay, David Turnbull
Forwards: Che Adams, Lyndon Dykes, Kevin Nisbet
Looks grand. Loads of premier league and the European experience. Bring it on!
I agree - decent squad.Defenders: Liam Cooper, Declan Gallagher, Grant Hanley, Jack Hendry, Scott McKenna, Stephen O'Donnell, Nathan Patterson, Andy Robertson, Greg Taylor, Kieran Tierney
Midfielders: Stuart Armstrong, Ryan Christie, John Fleck, James Forrest, Ryan Fraser, Billy Gilmour, John McGinn, Callum McGregor, Scott McTominay, David Turnbull
Forwards: Che Adams, Lyndon Dykes, Kevin Nisbet
Looks grand. Loads of premier league and the European experience. Bring it on!
I'd start Gordon ahead of the others. I'd also start Nisbet ahead of Adams.
JuniorD said:
thewarlock said:
That the best Scottish players have mostly at some point, played for one of the best 2 teams in Scotland?
Hardly surprising.
Yeah, that’s why it’s a theme. Hardly surprising.
most of them are Scottish
Fair amount of Aberdeen in there, more too if Jack, Maclean, Considine had made it.
Edited by simoid on Wednesday 19th May 22:05
dalzo said:
In the world of law, no criminality doesn’t mean it didn’t happen, but the average Joe Bloggs on the street will take it to mean that. I’m am entirely not surprised it’s not going any further. Difficult to identify who is singing it amongst them. Although I would think the goalkeeper with his middle finger raised at the appropriate moment is sleeping slightly easier tonight.
Black international players, half of whom in that clip are Catholic, not from Scotland, and a few who barely speak English, FTP'ing?
Yeah, no bother
I am beyond caring now with the faux outrage towards the players. Some people spending hours pouring over a video absolutley DESPERATE to be offended by it.
Rangers have released a statement:
https://twitter.com/RangersFC/status/1395752250430...
Yeah, no bother
I am beyond caring now with the faux outrage towards the players. Some people spending hours pouring over a video absolutley DESPERATE to be offended by it.
Rangers have released a statement:
https://twitter.com/RangersFC/status/1395752250430...
Edited by Scrubs on Friday 21st May 17:52
I've sat on the fence over this as I'm not sure what was said. It's a very well used phrase by Rangers and their support so it wouldn't be any surprise if it was used.
I was surprised Rangers dismissed the video as faked and Rangers fans edited the key point of the video out that people were convinced. I looked suspicious as the few videos circulating were all identical to my ears. I wasn't sure what I was hearing, but denying the content would have been the obvious thing. Clearly the videos did contain the words.
With the risk of causing upset, do bear in mind the Kudela v. Kamara case also hasn't progressed to any legal charges. We aren't going to now call Kamara mistaken as it didn't progress to a conviction? I'm not.
I was surprised Rangers dismissed the video as faked and Rangers fans edited the key point of the video out that people were convinced. I looked suspicious as the few videos circulating were all identical to my ears. I wasn't sure what I was hearing, but denying the content would have been the obvious thing. Clearly the videos did contain the words.
With the risk of causing upset, do bear in mind the Kudela v. Kamara case also hasn't progressed to any legal charges. We aren't going to now call Kamara mistaken as it didn't progress to a conviction? I'm not.
Edited by Driver101 on Friday 21st May 20:54
Driver101 said:
I've sat on the fence over this as I'm not sure what was said. It's a very well used phrase by Rangers and their support so it wouldn't be any surprise if it was used.
I was surprised Rangers dismissed the video as faked and Rangers fans edited the key point of the video out that people were convinced. I looked suspicious as the few videos circulating were all identical to my ears. I wasn't sure what I was hearing, but denying the content would have been the obvious thing. Clearly the videos did contain the words.
With the risk of causing upset, do bear in mind the Kudela v. Kamara case also hasn't progressed to any legal charges. We aren't going to now call Kamara mistaken as it didn't progress to a conviction? I'm not.
Could you please help me understand your point here? I’m reading these statements as contradictory.I was surprised Rangers dismissed the video as faked and Rangers fans edited the key point of the video out that people were convinced. I looked suspicious as the few videos circulating were all identical to my ears. I wasn't sure what I was hearing, but denying the content would have been the obvious thing. Clearly the videos did contain the words.
With the risk of causing upset, do bear in mind the Kudela v. Kamara case also hasn't progressed to any legal charges. We aren't going to now call Kamara mistaken as it didn't progress to a conviction? I'm not.
Edited by Driver101 on Friday 21st May 20:54
Are you saying Rangers players were clearly singing F the P?
simoid said:
Driver101 said:
I've sat on the fence over this as I'm not sure what was said. It's a very well used phrase by Rangers and their support so it wouldn't be any surprise if it was used.
I was surprised Rangers dismissed the video as faked and Rangers fans edited the key point of the video out that people were convinced. I looked suspicious as the few videos circulating were all identical to my ears. I wasn't sure what I was hearing, but denying the content would have been the obvious thing. Clearly the videos did contain the words.
With the risk of causing upset, do bear in mind the Kudela v. Kamara case also hasn't progressed to any legal charges. We aren't going to now call Kamara mistaken as it didn't progress to a conviction? I'm not.
Could you please help me understand your point here? I’m reading these statements as contradictory.I was surprised Rangers dismissed the video as faked and Rangers fans edited the key point of the video out that people were convinced. I looked suspicious as the few videos circulating were all identical to my ears. I wasn't sure what I was hearing, but denying the content would have been the obvious thing. Clearly the videos did contain the words.
With the risk of causing upset, do bear in mind the Kudela v. Kamara case also hasn't progressed to any legal charges. We aren't going to now call Kamara mistaken as it didn't progress to a conviction? I'm not.
Edited by Driver101 on Friday 21st May 20:54
Are you saying Rangers players were clearly singing F the P?
I wouldn't go as far as clearly as I can't hear, but I wouldn't be surprised. It is so commonly used.
Driver101 said:
Rangers dismissed the videos in circulation as faked. For them to dismiss the videos circulating as fake then they obviously thought the content contained the offensive chant.
I wouldn't go as far as clearly as I can't hear, but I wouldn't be surprised. It is so commonly used.
This is exactly the point. Are they fake? Both of them? From different angles with the same audio? Or are they not saying what people think they're saying?I wouldn't go as far as clearly as I can't hear, but I wouldn't be surprised. It is so commonly used.
All the police can do is ask those present what was said, I can't see anyone saying, 'Yes officer one or two were singing FTP'.
scoopdydoo said:
Driver101 said:
Rangers dismissed the videos in circulation as faked. For them to dismiss the videos circulating as fake then they obviously thought the content contained the offensive chant.
I wouldn't go as far as clearly as I can't hear, but I wouldn't be surprised. It is so commonly used.
This is exactly the point. Are they fake? Both of them? From different angles with the same audio? Or are they not saying what people think they're saying?I wouldn't go as far as clearly as I can't hear, but I wouldn't be surprised. It is so commonly used.
All the police can do is ask those present what was said, I can't see anyone saying, 'Yes officer one or two were singing FTP'.
I don't know how to tell if videos are faked, but all the videos were identical to my ears. If someone was going to fake the footage they wouldn't have made it so hard to decipher. The footage looked normal to me.
The fans sing it every week, it's a common term on internet forums, why are people pretending it's so abhorrent that the players sung it in a known song?
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