The Official West Ham United Thread. Vol 2

[sjc]

Hammer67 said:

Roberto = Joe Denly.

Indeed ...
Wtf?? Don’t think I’ve ever seen an easier one dropped at top level.

[coldel]

sjc said:

Just seen a bit of footage of Roberto going over to Martin at the end and giving him a hug.
Fair play,couldn’t have been easy for him to hear the fans back his rival like that.
Fair play again..... that he didn’t drop him .

To be fair, there seems to be a unique solidarity amongst goalkeepers, they know of all the players on the pitch their mistakes are amplified the most. They cost you the game if they make a mistake whereas a striker missing an easy chance doesn't.

[bad company]

coldel said:

To be fair, there seems to be a unique solidarity amongst goalkeepers, they know of all the players on the pitch their mistakes are amplified the most. They cost you the game if they make a mistake whereas a striker missing an easy chance doesn't.

Very true and how many mistakes did Roberto make?

[coldel]

bad company said:

Very true and how many mistakes did Roberto make?

Only a handful

[TCEvo]

Haller starts - Antonio out w/ groin strain.

COYI!!!

[Prolex-UK]

Bugger

[coldel]

Yet another soft goal, Fredericks not at any point goal side and just scrambling about. Another gift.

[RichB]

are you chaps watching this on Amazon Prime? I've got a Prime subscription but I believe I have to watch it on my phone or laptop and just can;t be bothered to figure out how to "cast" it to my TV, or if that's even at all possible.

[TCEvo]

Game over. Back to st.

[sc0tt]

I spoke to the FIL after the chelsea game and said that as much as I don’t like roberto, martin won’t be our savior. He wan’t properly tested at stamford bridge.

Unfortunately I was right and the second goal was very soft. We won’t go down this season, when fabianski is back we will grab some points.

Pellers had to do something about roberto before he got the boot and I agree with his decision to swap him out even if it was just to get back on the fans side.

There is a reason fabianski made the most saves last season and it is because the defence infront of him is dire. I fear pellegrini will be gone by Christmas for the wrong reasons.

[sjc]

sc0tt said:

I spoke to the FIL after the chelsea game and said that as much as I don’t like roberto, martin won’t be our savior. He wan’t properly tested at stamford bridge.

Unfortunately I was right and the second goal was very soft. We won’t go down this season, when fabianski is back we will grab some points.

Pellers had to do something about roberto before he got the boot and I agree with his decision to swap him out even if it was just to get back on the fans side.

There is a reason fabianski made the most saves last season and it is because the defence infront of him is dire. I fear pellegrini will be gone by Christmas for the wrong reasons.

I don’t think anyone was predicting a second choice keeper at Millwall was going to be our saviour?
It was just a nice story.

[TCEvo]

Predictably st away performance again.

We are fking garbage.

[coldel]

I still think Pelle will go, one fluke against Chelsea shouldn't keep him in a job. The only thing I think keeping him in a job is that there is no viable alternative easily available.

Haller was utter bobbins last night, saw a few decent balls across the face and he was still walking around on the edge of the box. If Noble didn't bring leadership qualities he really wouldn't be playing, it really is pushing the limit of how long he can keep playing. Fredericks defending for that first goal, the more I see it the more you realise how utterly terrible that was to concede it was atrocious defending, if we did that over the park we would have strips ripped off us let alone an apparently elite player on tens of thousands of pounds a week.

[TCEvo]

coldel said:

I still think Pelle will go, one fluke against Chelsea shouldn't keep him in a job. The only thing I think keeping him in a job is that there is no viable alternative easily available.

It'll be to late whatever they do, we're in freefall & have been for a couple of months.

I don't think that Howe or Dyche are the answer, not sure what the solution is though.

[coldel]

TCEvo said:

It'll be to late whatever they do, we're in freefall & have been for a couple of months.

I don't think that Howe or Dyche are the answer, not sure what the solution is though.

We need fullbacks! No one will listen

But yes, we need someone who can bring in a team that can organise from the back and work forwards, at the moment we are sitting so deep our attacking talent aren't getting any support and are isolated. Anderson, Haller etc can all do it if they are played correctly (just because Haller is tall doesn't make him a one up top target man Pelle, look at why he was successful at Eintract...some free advice for you there).

We need someone to come in, shore up with some proper organisation, bring in a full back and a central midfielder and bin off players like Sanchez who are so far from premier league quality its a joke.

Look at last night, 1-0 down and chasing a goal, so we make like for like substitutions Haller for Ajeti? Surely the answer is to overload the attack with 15 mins to go? Or maybe I am just a simpleton who doesn't understand all this technical football stuff...

[coldel]

Pelle post match Sky Sports

"I was happy with the attitude, I thought we dominated most parts of the game..."

Seriously, was he watching Liverpool Everton on a monitor and thinks we play in red?

[TCEvo]

coldel said:

Pelle post match Sky Sports

"I was happy with the attitude, I thought we dominated most parts of the game..."

Seriously, was he watching Liverpool Everton on a monitor and thinks we play in red?

[sjc]

TCEvo said:

coldel said:

Pelle post match Sky Sports

"I was happy with the attitude, I thought we dominated most parts of the game..."

Seriously, was he watching Liverpool Everton on a monitor and thinks we play in red?

I didn't think we played that badly, again little moments cost.They were a little but more decisive/sharper/cutting edge going forward(call it what you will) which has been our problem since day dot, and If Fredricks had concentrated on the ball rather than just holding his player things might have been different.

(It's lovely in cuckoo land honestly)

[TCEvo]

sjc said:

I didn't think we played that badly, again little moments cost.They were a little but more decisive/sharper/cutting edge going forward(call it what you will) which has been our problem since day dot, and If Fredricks had concentrated on the ball rather than just holding his player things might have been different.

(It's lovely in cuckoo land honestly)

I was at a dinner in town so didn't see any of it - also don't have prime. Guardian report read quite positively, oddly.

Seemed to be surrounded by manure fans last night, although the token spud looked a bit pissed off

[coldel]

I watched it (Amazon Prime member) and thought we looked far too slow in the buildup, gave away the ball far too easily and as soon as we did they literally were running at our back four in seconds - often with panic in our defending. Was also frustrating to see our guys 35 yards from goal closed down quickly and forced into mistakes yet at the other end they were stroking it around as we backed off putting no pressure on them at all. It was literally a case of just sitting there watching us lose from the first minute, at no point did it feel like we would get anything from it and it was inevitable we would lose - and watching Pelle just make like for like subs, no change in formation, no effort to equalise, so frustrating.