The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 6]

The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 6]

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Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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jammy-git said:
As much as I hate Spurs, I don't think anyone can say they are under-achieving?
This and next season are likely to be their best chance of a trophy for a while IMO. If they don't achieve anything next season, one can see Poch and crew leaving to "bigger" clubs, unless the immovable Levy starts spending like he needs to. It should be nivarna time for the Spuds, and they still can't win anything.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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chrisb92 said:
jammy-git said:
Maybe so, but they've progressed every season, been involved in a title battle for this season and last (at least up till the last few weeks) and I think most people will expect them to challenge again next season and probably but a better cup run together.

I don't think anyone expected them to be this strong in the league this season, but they probably did as expected in the cup competitions, but definitely not under-achieved in my eyes.
They haven't progressed this season imo. No trophy... again and going to fall short in the league... again. They need trophies.
I think the scouse mentality is coming into play. It's good enough to nearly win stuff.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

238 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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London424 said:
Because all the money bags clubs spend fortunes every year. Have you just started watching football or haven't you noticed that when you spend lots of money you typically win stuff...there's a fairly strong correlation in fact.
Money isn't any guarantee of success, especially when other clubs are doing the same as you!...

Spurs have built a little on last season as they didn't need a fundamental overhaul to challenge. That's why I expected them to be about where they are. I mentioned under achieving as they've been largely woeful in the cup competitions something they really should have made a better fist at.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

238 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Adam B said:
Well for one, they spent very little (again) whereas you lot spent a lot and got in a proven EPL winner manager - they have over-achieved again, arguably you and City have under-achieved. Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal roughly as expected
IMHO
I'd say we've done about as expected. If we win the Europa and do a double I'd say we've exceeded expectations. Yes it would have been nice to challenge for the title and if things had have gone slightly better for us at home in the league (FFS!) we'd be right up there.

No manager in the history of United has won a trophy in their first season...until Jose came along. Special ain't he!

Adam B

27,247 posts

254 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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anniesdad said:
If we win the Europa and do a double I'd say we've exceeded expectations.
agreed, I was basing my comments on current situation only

anniesdad

14,589 posts

238 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Alpinestars said:
I think the scouse mentality is coming into play. It's good enough to nearly win stuff.
Totally agree.

anniesdad

14,589 posts

238 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Adam B said:
agreed, I was basing my comments on current situation only
Sure...things aren't finished yet Spurs could still win the league.

The mentality at United is to win a trophy every season, it's not always going to be the top prize but a prize nonetheless. That's our mentality.

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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anniesdad said:
London424 said:
Because all the money bags clubs spend fortunes every year. Have you just started watching football or haven't you noticed that when you spend lots of money you typically win stuff...there's a fairly strong correlation in fact.
Money isn't any guarantee of success, especially when other clubs are doing the same as you!...

Spurs have built a little on last season as they didn't need a fundamental overhaul to challenge. That's why I expected them to be about where they are. I mentioned under achieving as they've been largely woeful in the cup competitions something they really should have made a better fist at.
Of course it it. Where were Chelsea before Roman? Where were City before the Arabs? Agreed that you have to spend wisely, but if you don't have the money to spend you almost have zero chance.

You'll spend another 200million to try and win things this summer while already having the highest wage bill in the league.

Zoon

6,703 posts

121 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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London424 said:
Because all the money bags clubs spend fortunes every year. Have you just started watching football or haven't you noticed that when you spend lots of money you typically win stuff...there's a fairly strong correlation in fact.
What happened to City this year then?

London424

12,829 posts

175 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Zoon said:
London424 said:
Because all the money bags clubs spend fortunes every year. Have you just started watching football or haven't you noticed that when you spend lots of money you typically win stuff...there's a fairly strong correlation in fact.
What happened to City this year then?
They didn't win anything...this year. What did they win in the 40 years before the Arabs took over and spent a fortune?

Go through all the leagues in the world, if you're not spending in the top few (transfers and wages) you're probably not winning the league.

Ascayman

12,750 posts

216 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Tottenham underachieving roflrofl ive heard it all now laugh just when you think this thread cant get any further from reality.

Adam B

27,247 posts

254 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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anniesdad said:
The mentality at United is to win a trophy every season, it's not always going to be the top prize but a prize nonetheless. That's our mentality.
I would say that's the mentality of most teams in top 7 or 8, however only 3 can afford it and the rest rely on a combination of a period of good form and luck

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Ascayman said:
Tottenham underachieving roflrofl ive heard it all now laugh just when you think this thread cant get any further from reality.
Every big team has let itself down this season. A very average Chelsea side is going to win the league quite comfortably.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Adam B said:
I would say that's the mentality of most teams in top 7 or 8, however only 3 can afford it and the rest rely on a combination of a period of good form and luck
Or just memories wink.

Where do you count beans out of interest?

uk66fastback

16,540 posts

271 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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ORD said:
Every big team has let itself down this season. A very average Chelsea side is going to win the league quite comfortably.
You do talk some bks!

mickk

28,864 posts

242 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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uk66fastback said:
ORD said:
Every big team has let itself down this season. A very average Chelsea side is going to win the league quite comfortably.
You do talk some bks!
Chelsea are far from average.

Black can man

31,838 posts

168 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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I suppose some teams are more average than others .


Chelsea are hardly average .

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Black can man said:
I suppose some teams are more average than others .


Chelsea are hardly average .
Not a patch on the great Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea sides of recent years.

Look at the centre backs, FFS!

Very average side to be strolling the league.

jammy-git

29,778 posts

212 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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Recent years? It's been a good 10 years since Utd had a great side and 15 years since Arsenal had one!

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Wednesday 26th April 2017
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jammy-git said:
Recent years? It's been a good 10 years since Utd had a great side and 15 years since Arsenal had one!
Fair point.

I suppose it's an improvement on the farce last season.
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