The Official Manchester United Thread [Vol 6]

[Alpinestars]

ORD said:

I think the concept of a first 11 is largely dead amongst the leading sides.

We probably have 2-3 'best sides'. Some players will be in all 3 of them; others just 1 or 2 of them.

Teams need a squad that can adapt to different playing styles, hence the likes of Fella, and a squad that is flexible enough to cope with the inevitable injuries and rotation. It's about having the right blend. No one has the best 18 players in the world.

[ORD]

Alpinestars said:

m3sye said:

I'm baffled why so many people take pre season games so season... purely fitness especially at this stage

Rewind 15 years or so no1 even took note of if you were playing in them

Had you beaten the mighty Wigan Madrid, and we lost to any of the MSL teams, you'd have been on here crowing. But I can see why at the present time, you're not taking pre seasons seriously (unlike your fellow fans at Tranmere).

It's a bit like the spuds not taking trophies seriously. Because they can't win one.

Ouch. A bit harsh out of nowhere, Alpine!

[Alpinestars]

ORD said:

Alpinestars said:

m3sye said:

I'm baffled why so many people take pre season games so season... purely fitness especially at this stage

Rewind 15 years or so no1 even took note of if you were playing in them

Had you beaten the mighty Wigan Madrid, and we lost to any of the MSL teams, you'd have been on here crowing. But I can see why at the present time, you're not taking pre seasons seriously (unlike your fellow fans at Tranmere).

It's a bit like the spuds not taking trophies seriously. Because they can't win one.

Ouch. A bit harsh out of nowhere, Alpine!

But true?

[ORD]

MiniMan64 said:

What is our 11 these days?

DDG
Tony Lindorf Bailey Shaw
Herrera ????
Mata Pogba Rashford??
Lukaku

If we did have a first 11 (and we dont), I would think it would look more like this:

DDG
Tony, Smalling, Bailey, Shaw (Lindorf has looked poor so far)
Herrera
Mikhi, Pogba, Rashford
Lukaku

Absurdly attacking, so we wouldnt play it against big sides. But it would hopefully get us goals against weaker sides.

[anniesdad]

ORD said:

I think the concept of a first 11 is largely dead amongst the leading sides.

We probably have 2-3 'best sides'. Some players will be in all 3 of them; others just 1 or 2 of them.

Agreed. Although Chelsea went on their winning run of form last season with a fixed starting 11. This is largely unheard of now though.

[anniesdad]

MiniMan64 said:

What is our 11 these days?

DDG
Tony Lindorf Bailey Shaw
Herrera ????
Mata Pogba Rashford??
Lukaku

It's subjective as we all have our favourites.

I'd start with a back 3. This would be something like my starting 11, new signings/possible signings included. Also includes Rojo who is of course injured but he's a fav of mine so he's got to be in there.

DDG

Bailly Lindelof Rojo

Valencia Herrera/Mikhy Carrick(Matic?) Pogba Martial(Perisic?)

Lukaku Rashford

Edited by anniesdad on Wednesday 19th July 11:47

[ORD]

anniesdad said:

It's subjective as we all have our favourites.

I'd start with a back 3. This would

DDG

Bailly Lindelof Rojo

Valencia Herrera/Mikhy Carrick(Matic?) Pogba Martial(Perisic?)

Lukaku Rashford

Eh? 3 at the back and only one wing back?

I would love Utd to play like that, but that is more a FIFA/Pro Evo team than a real world team!

[m3sye]

Alpinestars said:

Had you beaten the mighty Wigan Madrid, and we lost to any of the MSL teams, you'd have been on here crowing. But I can see why at the present time, you're not taking pre seasons seriously (unlike your fellow fans at Tranmere).

.

Yeah ok Alpine

[Richyvrlimited]

ORD said:

If we did have a first 11 (and we dont), I would think it would look more like this:

DDG
Tony, Smalling, Bailey, Shaw (Lindorf has looked poor so far)
Herrera
Mikhi, Pogba, Rashford
Lukaku

Absurdly attacking, so we wouldnt play it against big sides. But it would hopefully get us goals against weaker sides.

You'd only start with 10 players?

[London424]

anniesdad said:

ORD said:

I think the concept of a first 11 is largely dead amongst the leading sides.

We probably have 2-3 'best sides'. Some players will be in all 3 of them; others just 1 or 2 of them.

Agreed. Although Chelsea went on their winning run of form last season with a fixed starting 11. This is largely unheard of now though.

I don't think that's true at all. Everyone that has won the league that I can think of usually has the most settled team playing week after week.

When was the last team to win the title that regularly rotated out players for league games?

[ORD]

Richyvrlimited said:

You'd only start with 10 players?

I am confident.

[anniesdad]

ORD said:

Eh? 3 at the back and only one wing back?

I would love Utd to play like that, but that is more a FIFA/Pro Evo team than a real world team!

3 centre halves and a CDM, quick players like Martial and Perisic to cover? Why wouldn't that work?

[ORD]

anniesdad said:

3 centre halves and a CDM, quick players like Martial and Perisic to cover? Why wouldn't that work?

Martial is terrible defensively.

[Black can man]

Alpinestars said:

Had you beaten the mighty Wigan Madrid, and we lost to any of the MSL teams, you'd have been on here crowing. But I can see why at the present time, you're not taking pre seasons seriously (unlike your fellow fans at Tranmere).

It's a bit like the spuds not taking trophies seriously. Because they can't win one.

Now that Lukaku is on board do you reckon you can improve on your sixth place from last season ?

[Alpinestars]

Black can man said:

Alpinestars said:

Had you beaten the mighty Wigan Madrid, and we lost to any of the MSL teams, you'd have been on here crowing. But I can see why at the present time, you're not taking pre seasons seriously (unlike your fellow fans at Tranmere).

It's a bit like the spuds not taking trophies seriously. Because they can't win one.

Now that Lukaku is on board do you reckon you can improve on your sixth place from last season ?

I'd like to improve our trophy haul. And yes I do. At your and/or Liverpool's expense.

[Gone a bit AMG]

Black can man said:

Now that Lukaku is on board do you reckon you can improve on your sixth place from last season ?

Yes but it isn't Lukaku that's key. It's Jose's 2nd season. That's the key.

[GTO-3R]

Martial is bad defensively!

My team would be,

DDG

Tony Bailly Lindehof Shaw

Carrick (Matic)

Herrera Pogba Miki

Lukaku Rashford

[Merc 450]

GTO-3R said:

Martial is bad defensively!

My team would be,

DDG

Tony Bailly Lindehof Shaw

Carrick (Matic)

Herrera Pogba Miki

Lukaku Rashford

Going to do mine from the front back:
Lukaku

Martial Rashford Mikkitikkitarian



Pogba Herrera




Shaw Lindelhof Baillie Valencia



De Gea

[Merc 450]

Merc 450 said:

GTO-3R said:

Martial is bad defensively!

My team would be,

DDG

Tony Bailly Lindehof Shaw

Carrick (Matic)

Herrera Pogba Miki

Lukaku Rashford

Going to do mine from the front back:
Lukaku

Martial Rashford Mikkitikkitarian



Pogba Herrera




Shaw Lindelhof Baillie Valencia



De Gea

Spent 5 minutes spacing them out in thier proper positions with Rashford just behind lukaku and my computer posted it like that

[ORD]

GTO-3R said:

Martial is bad defensively!

My team would be,

DDG

Tony Bailly Lindehof Shaw

Carrick (Matic)

Herrera Pogba Miki

Lukaku Rashford

I could live with that, if we insist on playing a full 11 players

As for whether or not we will finish above 6th. I think all the ABUs know that we will.

Maybe if they doubt it, they can go and bet against it at the bookies.