The Official Liverpool FC Thread [Vol 12]

[m3sye]

desolate said:

I'd really stop stressing about the fees and wages.
It's the new reality.

I wouldn't be surprised if the fee was 50-60 million in the end.

Mental.

not stressing 1 bit - its nice to see us in the game with high fee's

i have been saying for ages 100k a week soon with be like 50k a week - its obvious if clubs are earning an extra 100m a year the agents will want a large % of that for the players as they are the ones giving the entertainment (apart from old trafford)

50m is basically 30m 2 years ago - 200k is basically 100k 2 years ago

[SydneyBridge]

has he ever played alongside Lovren, or did he replace Lovren we would bought him?
just wondering who he will play alongside

[London424]

m3sye said:

desolate said:

I'd really stop stressing about the fees and wages.
It's the new reality.

I wouldn't be surprised if the fee was 50-60 million in the end.

Mental.

not stressing 1 bit - its nice to see us in the game with high fee's

i have been saying for ages 100k a week soon with be like 50k a week - its obvious if clubs are earning an extra 100m a year the agents will want a large % of that for the players as they are the ones giving the entertainment (apart from old trafford)

50m is basically 30m 2 years ago - 200k is basically 100k 2 years ago

You're already paying these types of wages! You have the 3rd highest wage bill in the league. It's not like you're some paupers hoping for scraps.

[type-r]

London424 said:

You're already paying these types of wages! You have the 3rd highest wage bill in the league. It's not like you're some paupers hoping for scraps.

Is that really true? That means we are paying more than one of: United, City and Chelsea. Seems highly unlikely?!

[jammy-git]

m3sye said:

rumours virigl is all agreed with his agent - just now about the fee

reckon its 200k a week - mega mega money , but in my opinion he is by far best CB in the prem so need to pay it if we wanna compete with UTD/CITY/CHELSEA

I'm wondering if the big contracts we gave to the likes of Lallana and Lovren were more to show players like VVD that we will pay big wages?

[jammy-git]

London424 said:

You're already paying these types of wages! You have the 3rd highest wage bill in the league. It's not like you're some paupers hoping for scraps.

I don't think we've ever paid a player £200k. I think Gerrard and Suarez were close and Suarez new deal was going to take him there but he left that summer. Our top players are on around £150k and most are £100k and below.

[SydneyBridge]

apparently Ozil and Sanchez want over £350k a week to stay at Arsenal
insane, but the money is there in football now, so they will probably get it

[jammy-git]

They know Arsenal are pretty screwed without them, so they can hold the club to ransom like Rooney did with Utd a few years ago. If Arsenal allow them to leave it'll show a lack of ambition by the club and any other top player will think twice about moving there.

[Adam B]

type-r said:

Is that really true? That means we are paying more than one of: United, City and Chelsea. Seems highly unlikely?!

It was a dodgy table on the Spurs thread, had the following in £m

Utd 232
Chelsea 222
Liverpool 208
City 198
Arsenal 195
Spurs 23 and 100 packets of hobnobs

This was for 2015/6, it includes all staff not just players, and would include (for example) BR and staff redundancy payments, one off sign on bonuses etc

without player by player back up of those stats its hard to compare - so treat with caution as an indicator of what players get paid

Edited by Adam B on Thursday 1st June 12:16

[London424]

type-r said:

London424 said:

You're already paying these types of wages! You have the 3rd highest wage bill in the league. It's not like you're some paupers hoping for scraps.

Is that really true? That means we are paying more than one of: United, City and Chelsea. Seems highly unlikely?!

For everyone's financial reports 2015/2016 (i.e. the latest reported) you were above City and Arsenal.

I'd expect you will drop compared to City the next time round, but you're in the ball park of these clubs.

[anonymous-user]

type-r said:

Is that really true? That means we are paying more than one of: United, City and Chelsea. Seems highly unlikely?!

I was surprised but multiple sources say it is the case.

My gut feel is that City will overtake this year, but I don't know.

[Adam B]

this sounds more reasonable

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/liverpool-player...


Liverpool has the 5th highest wage bill in premier league with £152 million spent on wages in 2015-16 season.
Their wage bill has been increasing steadily over the last three years with £140 million back in 2013-14 season to £144 million 2014-15 and currently they will be paying £152 million in player wages this season.

Simon Mignolet £60,000
Loris Karius (new signing) £15,000
Alexander Manninger £5,000
Mamadou Sakho £75,000   
Joel Matip (new signing) £70,000
Dejan Lovren £65,000
Ragnar Klavan (new signing) £55,000
Joe Gomez  £10,000
Tiago Ilori £10,000
Alberto Moreno £40,000
Nathaniel Clyne £70,000
Andre Wisdom £10,000
Emre Can £55,000
Lucas Leiva £80,000
Kevin Stewart
Jordan Henderson £100,000 
James Milner £120,000
Marko Grujic (new signing) £15,000
Philippe Coutinho (new deal) £200,000
Georginio Wijnaldum (new signing) £90,000
Adam Lallana  £65,000
Sadio Mané (new signing) £90,000
Sheyi Ojo £1,000
Lazar Markovic (loaned-out) £45,000
Roberto Firmino £100,000
Daniel Sturridge £120,000
Danny Ings £60,000
Divock Origi £25,000


doesn't reflect latest Lallana and Lovren deals

Edited by Adam B on Thursday 1st June 12:18

[London424]

Adam B said:

this sounds more reasonable

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/liverpool-player...


Liverpool has the 5th highest wage bill in premier league with £152 million spent on wages in 2015-16 season.
Their wage bill has been increasing steadily over the last three years with £140 million back in 2013-14 season to £144 million 2014-15 and currently they will be paying £152 million in player wages this season.

Simon Mignolet £60,000
Loris Karius (new signing) £15,000
Alexander Manninger £5,000
Mamadou Sakho £75,000   
Joel Matip (new signing) £70,000
Dejan Lovren £65,000
Ragnar Klavan (new signing) £55,000
Joe Gomez  £10,000
Tiago Ilori £10,000
Alberto Moreno £40,000
Nathaniel Clyne £70,000
Andre Wisdom £10,000
Emre Can £55,000
Lucas Leiva £80,000
Kevin Stewart
Jordan Henderson £100,000 
James Milner £120,000
Marko Grujic (new signing) £15,000
Philippe Coutinho (new deal) £200,000
Georginio Wijnaldum (new signing) £90,000
Adam Lallana  £65,000
Sadio Mané (new signing) £90,000
Sheyi Ojo £1,000
Lazar Markovic (loaned-out) £45,000
Roberto Firmino £100,000
Daniel Sturridge £120,000
Danny Ings £60,000
Divock Origi £25,000


doesn't reflect latest Lallana and Lovren deals

Edited by Adam B on Thursday 1st June 12:18

How does that sound more reasonable than the official report and accounts published by clubs?? All that site has done is had a guess based on stuff in newspapers!

Edited by London424 on Thursday 1st June 12:28

[Adam B]

London424 said:

How does that sound more reasonable than the official report and accounts published by clubs?? All that site has done is had a guess based on stuff in newspapers!

more reasonable as a gauge of what players are getting paid

accounts show what is expensed / not correctly accrued for that legal entity and may include one offs and may not be comparable (eg some entities could include staff of holding company or other commercial activities v some purely the football team and coaching staff)

[ferrisbueller]

SydneyBridge said:

apparently Ozil and Sanchez want over £350k a week to stay at Arsenal
insane, but the money is there in football now, so they will probably get it

Ridiculous requests to be honest. Wouldn't like to be put in Arsenal's position. I think I'd sell Ozil and do what I needed to do to keep Alexis.

[London424]

Adam B said:

London424 said:

How does that sound more reasonable than the official report and accounts published by clubs?? All that site has done is had a guess based on stuff in newspapers!

more reasonable as a gauge of what players are getting paid

accounts show what is expensed / not correctly accrued for that legal entity and may include one offs and may not be comparable (eg some entities could include staff of holding company or other commercial activities v some purely the football team and coaching staff)

But it's the same for all! Every club will have that set of line items in it. It is the wage bill for running the club. Some might pay Doris the tea lady more than others, some might pay the directors...but it's the only like for like without having a complete guess on player salaries.

[London424]

But as said, at the end of the day it doesn't really matter. If you can afford it, then you've got to take advantage of it!

[fiatpower]

£43 million for salah seems a bit steep! He hasn't done anything of note and he wasn't exactly effective when he played for Chelsea.

[Flip Martian]

jammy-git said:

They can buy him, they just can't register him until Jan 2018.

Yeah I know - but why would he want to kick his heels for 6 months.

[Flip Martian]

SydneyBridge said:

apparently Ozil and Sanchez want over £350k a week to stay at Arsenal
insane, but the money is there in football now, so they will probably get it

Remember it will be the agents, not the players, making those demands.