The Official Tottenham Hotspud thread [Vol 9]

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Black can man

31,840 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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I see the Coutinho to Barca thing is gathering more pace.


Would be a shame to lose him , he's in my the top ten Prem players & a delight to watch.


& Conte is Questioning Spurs ambition in the papers , WTF has it got to do with him ?

or is he just trying to justify spending oodles of cash to hold his own as a manger.

HRL

3,341 posts

220 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Black can man said:
& Conte is Questioning Spurs ambition in the papers , WTF has it got to do with him ?
Standard Chelsea spiel. Think they've made comments like that before the start of the last two seasons in fact.

Do they consider us their local rivals these days?

Mind you, are Arsenal really our local rivals these days now that they're not even local?

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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TEKNOPUG

18,969 posts

206 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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HRL said:
Black can man said:
& Conte is Questioning Spurs ambition in the papers , WTF has it got to do with him ?
Standard Chelsea spiel. Think they've made comments like that before the start of the last two seasons in fact.

Do they consider us their local rivals these days?

Mind you, are Arsenal really our local rivals these days now that they're not even local?
He sounds rattled yes

If you spend 100s millions on players, then of course the pressure to succeed is greater. It's a chicken & egg situation. What was particularly amusing was him stating that for Arsenal not win the title/progress in Europe/qualify for CL it would be a tragedy.....clearly not that big a tragedy judging by Wenger's career over the last 14 years rofl


HairyPoppins

702 posts

83 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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HRL said:
Mind you, are Arsenal really our local rivals these days now that they're not even local?
confused

Has the imminent move 5 yards north up the Seven Sisters Road taken us out of the catchment area for the term 'local' when applied to Arsenal?

Sparkyhd

1,792 posts

96 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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TEKNOPUG said:
He sounds rattled yes

If you spend 100s millions on players, then of course the pressure to succeed is greater. It's a chicken & egg situation. What was particularly amusing was him stating that for Arsenal not win the title/progress in Europe/qualify for CL it would be a tragedy.....clearly not that big a tragedy judging by Wenger's career over the last 14 years rofl

Conte was asked a question and he gave an honest opinion which, like Pochettino, is refreshing compared to most of the management speak/PR bks.

And judging by this thread most of you seem to prefer doing it the Spurs way rather than splashing the cash so what's the problem?

BlueFiestaST

9,080 posts

166 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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TEKNOPUG

18,969 posts

206 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Sparkyhd said:
TEKNOPUG said:
He sounds rattled yes


If you spend 100s millions on players, then of course the pressure to succeed is greater. It's a chicken & egg situation. What was particularly amusing was him stating that for Arsenal not win the title/progress in Europe/qualify for CL it would be a tragedy.....clearly not that big a tragedy judging by Wenger's career over the last 14 years rofl

Conte was asked a question and he gave an honest opinion which, like Pochettino, is refreshing compared to most of the management speak/PR bks.

And judging by this thread most of you seem to prefer doing it the Spurs way rather than splashing the cash so what's the problem?
Back in April he also said "it's very important to understand that it's not always about who spends more money who wins" wobble


jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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True, but I'm not sure why everyone thinks Abramovich or the Sheikh are just going to up and leave. They've both been at the clubs for a decade/nearly a decade and invested hundreds of millions of pounds into them.

I'd say the most vulnerable clubs are Man Utd, Arsenal and possibly Liverpool. If Utd and Arsenal keep failing to get into the Champions League then they're going to find it increasingly hard to attract the best players. Maybe not in the next few years, but starts the downward spiral. The youngest kids are already buying City and Chelsea shirts because that's where their favourite players are and they're playing on the World stage. It might not be making a massive difference now, but it will in a decade or two.

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Ascayman

12,758 posts

217 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Black can man said:
& Conte is Questioning Spurs ambition in the papers , WTF has it got to do with him ?

or is he just trying to justify spending oodles of cash to hold his own as a manger.
He's just bitter he couldn't get Kane. Bet morata is delighted with this



Ascayman

12,758 posts

217 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Off the top of my head, £30m a year is roughly 15% of our turnover, so it's not too bad. I'd say we've been run pretty responsibly since FSG came in.

GTO-3R

7,486 posts

214 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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jammy-git said:
True, but I'm not sure why everyone thinks Abramovich or the Sheikh are just going to up and leave. They've both been at the clubs for a decade/nearly a decade and invested hundreds of millions of pounds into them.

I'd say the most vulnerable clubs are Man Utd, Arsenal and possibly Liverpool. If Utd and Arsenal keep failing to get into the Champions League then they're going to find it increasingly hard to attract the best players. Maybe not in the next few years, but starts the downward spiral. The youngest kids are already buying City and Chelsea shirts because that's where their favourite players are and they're playing on the World stage. It might not be making a massive difference now, but it will in a decade or two.
Taking the piss? Have you not just seen that MUFC are the most valuable football club and the 3rd biggest sports franchise in the world (behind the Yankees and Dallas Cowboys)? There is no chance that MUFC are at financial risk. Also have you not seen the players we've signed whilst not in the Champions league?

We're in no bother smile

m3sye

26,231 posts

202 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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GTO-3R said:
jammy-git said:
True, but I'm not sure why everyone thinks Abramovich or the Sheikh are just going to up and leave. They've both been at the clubs for a decade/nearly a decade and invested hundreds of millions of pounds into them.

I'd say the most vulnerable clubs are Man Utd, Arsenal and possibly Liverpool. If Utd and Arsenal keep failing to get into the Champions League then they're going to find it increasingly hard to attract the best players. Maybe not in the next few years, but starts the downward spiral. The youngest kids are already buying City and Chelsea shirts because that's where their favourite players are and they're playing on the World stage. It might not be making a massive difference now, but it will in a decade or two.
Taking the piss? Have you not just seen that MUFC are the most valuable football club and the 3rd biggest sports franchise in the world (behind the Yankees and Dallas Cowboys)? There is no chance that MUFC are at financial risk. Also have you not seen the players we've signed whilst not in the Champions league?

We're in no bother smile
I agree in that it's going to take a long time of mediocrity before you're in real trouble, but your current income is thanks to sponsorship deals signed several years ago and based on the success of the Ferguson era. If Jose fails to win a title or Champions League at Utd then players and sponsors alike are going to start thinking Utd peaked 5 years ago and are on the decline.

GTO-3R

7,486 posts

214 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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jammy-git said:
GTO-3R said:
jammy-git said:
True, but I'm not sure why everyone thinks Abramovich or the Sheikh are just going to up and leave. They've both been at the clubs for a decade/nearly a decade and invested hundreds of millions of pounds into them.

I'd say the most vulnerable clubs are Man Utd, Arsenal and possibly Liverpool. If Utd and Arsenal keep failing to get into the Champions League then they're going to find it increasingly hard to attract the best players. Maybe not in the next few years, but starts the downward spiral. The youngest kids are already buying City and Chelsea shirts because that's where their favourite players are and they're playing on the World stage. It might not be making a massive difference now, but it will in a decade or two.
Taking the piss? Have you not just seen that MUFC are the most valuable football club and the 3rd biggest sports franchise in the world (behind the Yankees and Dallas Cowboys)? There is no chance that MUFC are at financial risk. Also have you not seen the players we've signed whilst not in the Champions league?

We're in no bother smile
I agree in that it's going to take a long time of mediocrity before you're in real trouble, but your current income is thanks to sponsorship deals signed several years ago and based on the success of the Ferguson era. If Jose fails to win a title or Champions League at Utd then players and sponsors alike are going to start thinking Utd peaked 5 years ago and are on the decline.
No chance. Since Woodward has come in we've been far better commercially and signed a number of long term new contracts. We're all good wink

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Fine, but several years ago a number of us said you'd struggle because you had Scholes, Ferdinand, Evra, Rooney, Giggs all coming up to retirement and seemingly no plan in place to replace them. At the time you guys seemed incapable of considering an eventuality where Utd would be anything but successful and look where we are several years later...

Cie

18,783 posts

194 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Blib

44,165 posts

198 months

Thursday 27th July 2017
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Cie said:
I wonder if City fans would trade their memories of title wins in to be able to post their team has a better net spend than other teams on a fking car forum?

Thought not.
Anyone can buy a trophy.

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