The Official Tottenham Hotspud thread [Vol 9]

The Official Tottenham Hotspud thread [Vol 9]

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jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Ascayman said:
jammy-git said:
Apparently your wage bill last year was very close to ours which shows you can at least compete with us on wages. But I imagine the proportion of your wage bill that was performance based was a lot higher which had led to your wage bill being higher in the last couple of seasons where you've done well in the league.
Our wage bill is a million miles away from yours.

You've dropped 250k PW on coutinho we couldn't even do half that.
No we haven't. He earns £150k a week. You could easily pay that, you just choose not to.

Ascayman

12,759 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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jammy-git said:
Ascayman said:
jammy-git said:
Apparently your wage bill last year was very close to ours which shows you can at least compete with us on wages. But I imagine the proportion of your wage bill that was performance based was a lot higher which had led to your wage bill being higher in the last couple of seasons where you've done well in the league.
Our wage bill is a million miles away from yours.

You've dropped 250k PW on coutinho we couldn't even do half that.
No we haven't. He earns £150k a week. You could easily pay that, you just choose not to.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4154974/amp/Liverpool-FC-make-Coutinho-highest-paid-player-ever.html

Make your mind up a few mins ago you were saying we match your wages now your saying we chose not to.

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Ascayman said:
You're living in a dream world. Liverpools wage bill is 10s of millions per year more. It's not even close.
I apologise, it's not total revenue that is close, but the percentage of turnover that's close:


NRS

22,189 posts

202 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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You've done it now - they'll be wanting a trophy for being in the "top 20 clubs" now, wink

Ascayman

12,759 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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NRS said:
You've done it now - they'll be wanting a trophy for being in the "top 20 clubs" now, wink
Hey it's you chaps trying to aline yourselves with us, perhaps to try and justify finishing below us year in year out when there's really no excuse? wink

Ascayman

12,759 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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JustinF

6,795 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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I'm not down about our form at all, we all predicted a season away from home would prove difficult and hey presto we were right, I'm pretty sure internally they thought the same and that another top 3 finish would be nice but not a deal breaker for levy/poch
UCL was somewhat unaffected as every game, bar dead-rubbers, is like a cup game home or away.
We've everything in place for some success, from the club's local involvement through youth development and the ladies getting into the top flight all the way through to the training centre and the setup MoPo has in place at the top end.

There's a reason why England train at Hotspur way not the quite expensive St. George's park...

juice

8,536 posts

283 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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I live 11 mile sw of Bristol..I am sooooo chuffed for city clap

General Price

5,252 posts

184 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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juice said:
I live 11 mile sw of Bristol..I am sooooo chuffed for city clap
I live a couple of hundred miles away and I'm delighted for them as well.laugh

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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jammy-git said:
Ascayman said:
You're living in a dream world. Liverpools wage bill is 10s of millions per year more. It's not even close.
I apologise, it's not total revenue that is close, but the percentage of turnover that's close:

Of course. Which is why the stadium and the new commercial deals are so important to Spurs.

Somehow they are competing with half the wage bill of the other top 5 clubs.

jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Well, more like two thirds, but lets not bring that up again....

NRS

22,189 posts

202 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Ascayman said:
NRS said:
You've done it now - they'll be wanting a trophy for being in the "top 20 clubs" now, wink
Hey it's you chaps trying to aline yourselves with us, perhaps to try and justify finishing below us year in year out when there's really no excuse? wink
There's loads of excuses! Overspending on rubbish being the main one, tongue out

More seriously though, since you all have commented that this season would be around 5 million times more difficult due to playing away from home all the time, plus other clubs putting in 1008% more effort as they're playing at Wembley, then what are the expectations next season? Surely they'd be higher than this season due to the stadium effect?

JustinF

6,795 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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that last column is really telling, in the leagues ruled by one or two clubs they are spending 5x the average, in the prem where bottom beats top happens more often (not enough to unseat the hegemony but often enough to be remarked upon) the TV money is a more equitable split.

Edited by JustinF on Thursday 21st December 10:27

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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jammy-git said:
Well, more like two thirds, but lets not bring that up again....
Depends which numbers you use. Annual reports or your link which I can’t see a source.

Ascayman

12,759 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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NRS said:
There's loads of excuses! Overspending on rubbish being the main one, tongue out

More seriously though, since you all have commented that this season would be around 5 million times more difficult due to playing away from home all the time, plus other clubs putting in 1008% more effort as they're playing at Wembley, then what are the expectations next season? Surely they'd be higher than this season due to the stadium effect?
Yes we all called it pre season but then we are more balanced than most.

Next season I would expect us to be better at home yes. It's not a difficult concept to grasp playing all your games away from home is more difficult than playing half your games away from home.




jammy-git

29,778 posts

213 months

Wednesday 20th December 2017
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Generally it's harder to play away from home because your support is in the minority and the majority of the fans in the stadium are cheering on the other team.

Blib

44,174 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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It will be difficult next season too. Another new stadium to get used to. Hopefully, the atmosphere will be many times better at new WHL. This will help the team settle down.

I predict a rough(ish) time up until Xmas, then we'll hit our straps.

Mondschein

71 posts

77 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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The next 4 games are all winnable no?

lemmingjames

7,460 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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Ascayman said:
Yes we all called it pre season but then we are more balanced than most.

Next season I would expect us to be better at home yes. It's not a difficult concept to grasp playing all your games away from home is more difficult than playing half your games away from home.

I dont know about that, using the LA Rams from American Football, they are doing rather well at the moment winning lots of games on the road and at 'home' though most of the players are new and journeymen

London424

12,829 posts

176 months

Thursday 21st December 2017
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lemmingjames said:
Ascayman said:
Yes we all called it pre season but then we are more balanced than most.

Next season I would expect us to be better at home yes. It's not a difficult concept to grasp playing all your games away from home is more difficult than playing half your games away from home.

I dont know about that, using the LA Rams from American Football, they are doing rather well at the moment winning lots of games on the road and at 'home' though most of the players are new and journeymen
Can't compare NFL to premier league. Most rosters will turnover 1/3rd of 50+ players every year through free agency and the draft. The worst teams get to pick the best players first. There is a salary cap that all clubs have to operate within...I'd love to see that in the Prem.

It's why I probably watch more American Football than I do Football now.
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