The Official Chelsea Thread [Vol 3]
Discussion
TaylotS2K said:
Easy to go OTT on the team and say we need a huge clear out. Remember when we finished 10th and then won the league the following season under Conte in his 1st season. The team didn't have a massive overhaul in terms of personnel then. Some fans memories are short I guess.
Too true 
Sparkyhd said:
Despite this
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6005215/di...
there were still 3,000 pricks remaining in the away section.
it is amazing what people take to the football. https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/6005215/di...
there were still 3,000 pricks remaining in the away section.
Edited by Sparkyhd on Monday 9th April 22:11
gadgetmac said:
trackdemon said:
And 968 is the greatest exponent of doom and gloom on this thread. Is there an easy way to block posts? 
There is, I believe you simply look down the far left column and ignore everything to the right of any name you don’t like the look of.I do it all the time.
- phtoptips
TaylotS2K said:
Easy to go OTT on the team and say we need a huge clear out. Remember when we finished 10th and then won the league the following season under Conte in his 1st season. The team didn't have a massive overhaul in terms of personnel then. Some fans memories are short I guess.
Kante and Marcus Alonso made a big difference then I think, plus the bulk of the team were kept together. No major departures and the addition of a top striker would change things for next season - although it does feel as though a few might have had enough and will be off.smn159 said:
TaylotS2K said:
Easy to go OTT on the team and say we need a huge clear out. Remember when we finished 10th and then won the league the following season under Conte in his 1st season. The team didn't have a massive overhaul in terms of personnel then. Some fans memories are short I guess.
Kante and Marcus Alonso made a big difference then I think, plus the bulk of the team were kept together. No major departures and the addition of a top striker would change things for next season - although it does feel as though a few might have had enough and will be off.TaylotS2K said:
I do agree, we need another top striker to go with Morata and Giroud - that may be hard to get with no CL football next season though, but lets on write off Alvaro. He's got 15 goals so far this season and shown flashes of brilliance. He just needs to get more consistency in his game. Let's also remember Drogba didn't set the World alight in his first season. He bagged 16 goals in his first season for Chelsea. After that he was truly immense though, even when he didn't notch. Morata just needs to be more of a nuisance when he isn't scoring. I've seen a bit of an improvement with his hold up play since he came back from injury.
You have Tammy Abraham & Michy Batshuayi out on loan or are these two not good enough ?Is Roman losing interest ? & lets be fair here he's won the lot & there is a far bigger bully in the playground these days
TaylotS2K said:
I do agree, we need another top striker to go with Morata and Giroud - that may be hard to get with no CL football next season though, but lets on write off Alvaro. He's got 15 goals so far this season and shown flashes of brilliance. He just needs to get more consistency in his game. Let's also remember Drogba didn't set the World alight in his first season. He bagged 16 goals in his first season for Chelsea. After that he was truly immense though, even when he didn't notch. Morata just needs to be more of a nuisance when he isn't scoring. I've seen a bit of an improvement with his hold up play since he came back from injury.
There's nothing wrong with your squad - you have some fantastic players (as demonstrated with last years title). But there's something wrong with the culture within the team - they stopped playing for Jose, then won the league the next season, and now look like they aren't bothered again.Conte's clearly at the heart of it - doesn't look from the outside like the players 'like' him... might sound simplistic, but in my 30 odd years of managing people (admittedly not football), I've found people work much harder for managers they like.
Chris Stott said:
There's nothing wrong with your squad - you have some fantastic players (as demonstrated with last years title). But there's something wrong with the culture within the team - they stopped playing for Jose, then won the league the next season, and now look like they aren't bothered again.
Conte's clearly at the heart of it - doesn't look from the outside like the players 'like' him... might sound simplistic, but in my 30 odd years of managing people (admittedly not football), I've found people work much harder for managers they like.
There is the old saying "a fish rots from the head" .Conte's clearly at the heart of it - doesn't look from the outside like the players 'like' him... might sound simplistic, but in my 30 odd years of managing people (admittedly not football), I've found people work much harder for managers they like.
To be successful long term a club needs a consistent message coming right from the top, through all levels to the team. The best examples of this are Spurs and Burnley now (Utd until recently) - sticking to the same ethos for years.
Chelsea seem to want a "name" manager but to run everything from the board room. I am sure if they find a manager happy to put up with that they will get back to solid top four and more.
desolate said:
To be successful long term a club needs a consistent message coming right from the top,
Not sure what you mean. We've been successful for 14 years. How long is long term in this game?And there is a consistent message coming from the top "win trophies, play attractive football and don't insult Roman, otherwise you'll be fired".
It amazes me that people can't grasp this philosophy and see that it works. The other end of the spectrum is Arsenal's consistent message and loyalty to Arsene, which is proven not to work.
Keep on firing is my advice.
Sparkyhd said:
desolate said:
To be successful long term a club needs a consistent message coming right from the top,
Not sure what you mean. We've been successful for 14 years. How long is long term in this game?And there is a consistent message coming from the top "win trophies, play attractive football and don't insult Roman, otherwise you'll be fired".
It amazes me that people can't grasp this philosophy and see that it works. The other end of the spectrum is Arsenal's consistent message and loyalty to Arsene, which is proven not to work.
Keep on firing is my advice.
desolate said:
Chris Stott said:
There's nothing wrong with your squad - you have some fantastic players (as demonstrated with last years title). But there's something wrong with the culture within the team - they stopped playing for Jose, then won the league the next season, and now look like they aren't bothered again.
Conte's clearly at the heart of it - doesn't look from the outside like the players 'like' him... might sound simplistic, but in my 30 odd years of managing people (admittedly not football), I've found people work much harder for managers they like.
There is the old saying "a fish rots from the head" .Conte's clearly at the heart of it - doesn't look from the outside like the players 'like' him... might sound simplistic, but in my 30 odd years of managing people (admittedly not football), I've found people work much harder for managers they like.
To be successful long term a club needs a consistent message coming right from the top, through all levels to the team. The best examples of this are Spurs and Burnley now (Utd until recently) - sticking to the same ethos for years.
Chelsea seem to want a "name" manager but to run everything from the board room. I am sure if they find a manager happy to put up with that they will get back to solid top four and more.
Russian Troll Bot said:
Sparkyhd said:
desolate said:
To be successful long term a club needs a consistent message coming right from the top,
Not sure what you mean. We've been successful for 14 years. How long is long term in this game?And there is a consistent message coming from the top "win trophies, play attractive football and don't insult Roman, otherwise you'll be fired".
It amazes me that people can't grasp this philosophy and see that it works. The other end of the spectrum is Arsenal's consistent message and loyalty to Arsene, which is proven not to work.
Keep on firing is my advice.
Sparkyhd said:
desolate said:
To be successful long term a club needs a consistent message coming right from the top,
Not sure what you mean. We've been successful for 14 years. How long is long term in this game?And there is a consistent message coming from the top "win trophies, play attractive football and don't insult Roman, otherwise you'll be fired".
It amazes me that people can't grasp this philosophy and see that it works. The other end of the spectrum is Arsenal's consistent message and loyalty to Arsene, which is proven not to work.
Keep on firing is my advice.
TaylotS2K said:
desolate said:
Chris Stott said:
There's nothing wrong with your squad - you have some fantastic players (as demonstrated with last years title). But there's something wrong with the culture within the team - they stopped playing for Jose, then won the league the next season, and now look like they aren't bothered again.
Conte's clearly at the heart of it - doesn't look from the outside like the players 'like' him... might sound simplistic, but in my 30 odd years of managing people (admittedly not football), I've found people work much harder for managers they like.
There is the old saying "a fish rots from the head" .Conte's clearly at the heart of it - doesn't look from the outside like the players 'like' him... might sound simplistic, but in my 30 odd years of managing people (admittedly not football), I've found people work much harder for managers they like.
To be successful long term a club needs a consistent message coming right from the top, through all levels to the team. The best examples of this are Spurs and Burnley now (Utd until recently) - sticking to the same ethos for years.
Chelsea seem to want a "name" manager but to run everything from the board room. I am sure if they find a manager happy to put up with that they will get back to solid top four and more.
TEKNOPUG said:
TaylotS2K said:
desolate said:
Chris Stott said:
There's nothing wrong with your squad - you have some fantastic players (as demonstrated with last years title). But there's something wrong with the culture within the team - they stopped playing for Jose, then won the league the next season, and now look like they aren't bothered again.
Conte's clearly at the heart of it - doesn't look from the outside like the players 'like' him... might sound simplistic, but in my 30 odd years of managing people (admittedly not football), I've found people work much harder for managers they like.
There is the old saying "a fish rots from the head" .Conte's clearly at the heart of it - doesn't look from the outside like the players 'like' him... might sound simplistic, but in my 30 odd years of managing people (admittedly not football), I've found people work much harder for managers they like.
To be successful long term a club needs a consistent message coming right from the top, through all levels to the team. The best examples of this are Spurs and Burnley now (Utd until recently) - sticking to the same ethos for years.
Chelsea seem to want a "name" manager but to run everything from the board room. I am sure if they find a manager happy to put up with that they will get back to solid top four and more.
Is that approach going to work any more though? You've been lucky with Jose and Conte that they've largely been able to ride a "honeymoon" phase in their first season and win titles with largely what you already had. However it's obvious that Abramovich wants you to be self sufficient now and the quality of your team has been on a slight decline for several seasons now. If you want to keep bringing in different managers every couple of seasons, with different philosophies and requirements from players, it's expensive.
TaylotS2K said:
TEKNOPUG said:
TaylotS2K said:
desolate said:
Chris Stott said:
There's nothing wrong with your squad - you have some fantastic players (as demonstrated with last years title). But there's something wrong with the culture within the team - they stopped playing for Jose, then won the league the next season, and now look like they aren't bothered again.
Conte's clearly at the heart of it - doesn't look from the outside like the players 'like' him... might sound simplistic, but in my 30 odd years of managing people (admittedly not football), I've found people work much harder for managers they like.
There is the old saying "a fish rots from the head" .Conte's clearly at the heart of it - doesn't look from the outside like the players 'like' him... might sound simplistic, but in my 30 odd years of managing people (admittedly not football), I've found people work much harder for managers they like.
To be successful long term a club needs a consistent message coming right from the top, through all levels to the team. The best examples of this are Spurs and Burnley now (Utd until recently) - sticking to the same ethos for years.
Chelsea seem to want a "name" manager but to run everything from the board room. I am sure if they find a manager happy to put up with that they will get back to solid top four and more.
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